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Festus
Social climber
Enron by the Sea
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jan 17, 2008 - 01:45pm PT
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come on, you can't tell me these bastards weren't enhancing placements! At least one of 'em is packing a claw hammer.
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TradIsGood
Recently unshackled climber
the Gunks end of the country
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Jan 17, 2008 - 01:50pm PT
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Wings of Plywood.
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Gary
climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Jan 17, 2008 - 01:53pm PT
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That would be WoS: Wings of Spruce
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Jan 17, 2008 - 03:13pm PT
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They just CALLED it the Spruce Goose.
How about a pic of the DeHavilland Mosquito?
No guns because it was so fast nothing could catch it.
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survival
Big Wall climber
arlington, va
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Jan 17, 2008 - 03:26pm PT
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Dude, I've always wanted to do that route!!
Have you got a topo and a rack list?
Is it true what I heard about groundfall?
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nature
climber
Flagstaff, AZ
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Jan 17, 2008 - 03:51pm PT
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If I recall correctly, the rack is a framing hammer and a pouch full of 16 penny sinkers.
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paganmonkeyboy
climber
mars...it's near nevada...
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Jan 17, 2008 - 03:53pm PT
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wings of bacon....mmmm bacon...
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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Jan 17, 2008 - 03:54pm PT
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Wings of Smoked turkey... that would be good.
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survival
Big Wall climber
arlington, va
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Jan 17, 2008 - 03:57pm PT
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Hey Nature,
Do those 16p require stacking? Are they hard to clean?
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hafilax
Trad climber
East Van
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Jan 17, 2008 - 04:06pm PT
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With constructive scarring it could go free some day.
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Festus
Social climber
Enron by the Sea
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 17, 2008 - 04:10pm PT
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Survival:
Nature is clearly familiar with the route, though I don't think a second ascent has been done yet. By the way, PMB, the original route name was actually Wings of Makin' Bacon, after the constant and longing upward glance of the second. The FA party left the ground with the following:
--Two dozen half-inch eyebolts
--Box of tenpenny nails
--A dozen quarter-inch molly bolts
--Two framing hammers
--Box of Ding Dongs
--Two large bags of Cool Ranch Doritos
--Five pound box of See's candy
--two extra pair of Mervyn's all-cotton briefs
--Half gallon of Yoo-Hoo
--Coupon good for half price drinks at happy hour in the Applebee's in Palmdale, CA (though this climb is actually in nearby Quartz Hill)
--2 pairs of white socks, wing-tips, and Wrangler jeans (for the post climb happy hour??)
Ground fall was apparently not a worry, as each member of the duo inflated their favorite half-dozen vinyl women to serve as spotters.
The climb was actually sponsored by Cig World, largest retailer in the Antelope Valley. T-shirts are still available free with the purchase of two tins of Copenhagen.
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Festus
Social climber
Enron by the Sea
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 17, 2008 - 04:20pm PT
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hafilax:
Johnny Depp attempted to free it during a break in the filming of Edward Scissorhands, but got the wind knocked out of him in a nasty ground fall when a pruning shear blade popped out a knothole.
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Gene
climber
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Jan 17, 2008 - 04:22pm PT
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Wings of Wax
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Jan 17, 2008 - 04:24pm PT
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Icarus?
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nature
climber
Santa Fe, NM
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Jan 17, 2008 - 04:42pm PT
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The beta I have is you bring the 16p sinkers in place of the 10p the FA party brought up. They had to stack, but with a little extra elbow grease when swinging that claw hammer the 16p hold body weight and a bit more. They say it makes it a bit more spicy but that's what the inflatable dolls are for.
oh... and rumor has it the 10p were galvanized. The route would have gone a lot faster if they had used nylon coated. A very bold FA without the sinkers I say...
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survival
Big Wall climber
arlington, va
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Jan 17, 2008 - 05:34pm PT
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Yeah a bold move by the FA guys but they took way too much stuff. How long were they up there anyway? Why didn't they just fix lines?
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Jan 18, 2008 - 01:10am PT
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Here you go Ron...In all of it's wooden glory!
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Jay Wood
Trad climber
Fairfax, CA
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Jan 18, 2008 - 02:24am PT
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SOP for construction is 16 sinker in 3/16 hole with tie wire stack
Wings of concrete forms?
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Festus
Social climber
Enron by the Sea
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 18, 2008 - 01:23pm PT
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The original FA guys were forced to stay up there for three days when a riot broke out in the surrounding trailer parks over a change in qualifying requirements for food stamps. Several meth labs were trashed and the violence didn't subside until an Antelope Valley census official pointed out that each of the 500+ rioters was likely related to every other one. At that point, the FA team rapped off the backside of the summit, stole two horses, and rode to Seven-Eleven. Their supplies had dwindled to two molly bolts and a single See's chocolate with a nougat no one could stomach.
In hindsight, their "Steel to Wood" ratio seems reasonable, and compares favorably to the accepted standards of the time for hanging drywall. Indeed, the community ethics of this little-known climbing mecca were respected and largely followed by the FA team, aside from their refusal to sample the wares of the aforementioned labs, and date their own cousins. In fact, the integrity of this climb and it's style is respected to this day, and the only enhanced placements bringing the team notiriety occurred when they tried to change the brands on the horses.
They did thirty days each, and upon their release found to their relief that no one had defecated on their ropes, though someone apparently dropped trou and left a deposit in their Ugg boots--accepted outdoor footwear in Quartz Hill.
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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Jan 18, 2008 - 01:51pm PT
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that's pretty funny festus, BUT, the real question is, did the FA team leave any figurines?
I heard that roofing nails were used when possible to keep the commitment level high.
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IntheFog
climber
Mostly the next place
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Jan 18, 2008 - 01:51pm PT
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I heard the FA team used a studfinder, too.
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Festus
Social climber
Enron by the Sea
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 18, 2008 - 02:02pm PT
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Not sure about figurines, but they may have left a couple Jack-in-the-Box antenna balls from the pre-launch feast.
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Walla Walla, WA
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Jan 18, 2008 - 07:08pm PT
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Ok, this thread has finally beaten the truth out of me. I'll own up to the figurines and stud finder. We weren't going to take the stud finder, but after more than 30 days without our horses, we felt the frequent need to ply it on ourselves to be sure. It always beeped. I'm not sure what that means.
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MSmith
Big Wall climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jan 19, 2008 - 08:06pm PT
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Ok, I've held this for basically my entire adult life. Time to come clean. The first couple of pitches went really well. The finest 9 ply ABX I've ever seen. Roofing nails felt like 16-penny sinkers. But then things started to change as everything turned over to CDX. Rich was leading and yelled down, "Getting sketchy here. This 'plywood', if you can call it that, is barely shop-grade. Unpatched surface knots everywhere. And worse yet, I'm hitting vacancies on every nail. I swear that last nail hit a two-ply void." But it got worse. "Mark, this is a sheet of freaking OSB!" "OSB?", I yelled back incredulously, "We're on the Great Sheet. There shouldn't be any fiberboard up here." Pretty soon he was working up through a patchwork of every kind of fiberboard and drywall that you can imagine when an entire sheet peeled off! The sheet bombed past my left shoulder with a whoosh. As one of those afternoon thunderstorms was rolling though a second and a third eventually fell, amazing landing roughly atop of each other as if guided in flight by a cosmic hand. As Richard put in the anchor the sun came out, creating a surreal scene of mist flowing off of every surface. I looked down to examine the sections of wall now stacked at the base as Rich yelled down, "This route is literally turning into a huge steaming sheet pile." We were in way over our heads, nailing up stuff we were clueless about. I didn't even know what a roofing nail was when left our ranch for this hellhole. But our egos couldn't admit defeat. What we needed was a competitive advantage.
When Richard got back to my anchor his eyes flashed a look of both frustration and determination. We'd been though enough sheets together that I knew what he was thinking. Without a word being exchanged, we rapped off and headed for the local general store. I approached the counter first and, in a slightly hushed voice, asked if they sold stud finders. The store manager gave a long stare. "Bingo," I thought, "They do have 'em." "You boys look a might young to be probing about with stud finders. What's you saddled up to?" Now I couldn't say we were on the Great Sheet, so I coyly said, "We found some new sheet over west of here we're checking out." But he sensed the truth and said, "Sorry, boys, we don't encourage stud finders in these parts." What a lie. No doubt that he'd have produced one if we'd been locals.
Another hour in the saddle took us to the big city where we blended in with the do-it-yourselfers at a Walmart. There it was, the economy stud finder, $12.95. Before I could pick it up Richard said, "Wait up, part'ner. This is what we want" as he reached for the Stanley Professional Deep Probe. I protested that the Deep Probe was taking things too far. But Rich said, "Look, a probe's a probe. It doesn't matter what kind of probe we use when it comes to the Probe Count Tally. "Probe Count Tally?" I queried. Then Richard elaborated, "Look, I know this Big Sheet climbing is all new to you, but we're not just dinking around on the backside of our own barn anymore. In these parts when you publish your topo, you give a Probe Count. How deep you probed doesn't mean squat, just how many probes you made. There's a local ethic brewing to go probeless and install T-nuts instead, but many of the hardest routes like the Sheet Of Dreams were built on deep probing."
So we got back to the Great Sheet, jugged our ropes, strapped on tool belts and went to work. It took awhile to learn how to probe, but with the right tool it was easy. The whole time, though, I knew it was cheating. I felt so dirty inside I couldn't sleep soundly that night. But after a month of doing it, I got to the point of not even thinking. Still, though, to this day the memory of beeping sounds still haunts me.
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E.L. "One"
Big Wall climber
Lancaster, California
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Jan 19, 2008 - 09:58pm PT
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Judas Priest! Festus, so this is what you do when I'm not watching. I will give you credit for injecting a little levity into the WOS thread, but your facts, as usual, are completely distorted. In fact, I was on the F.A. of WOP...solo, and built the damn formation it is on with hard work, a couple of tractors, and a lot of beer. In fact, WOP was a ground up affair, and my rack consisted of 6 three inch eye screws and a selection of large hooks which I gingerly placed in empty holes, drilled during construction, which didn't have T-Bolts. The first pitch ended at 22 ft. where I used a carpenters hand drill to bore holes into the wood where I threaded 9/16 webbing. The second pitch consisted of the hardest wood hooking I have ever done with only one eye screw in the 20 feet to the top. I owe my current success as a bigwaller to the aid skills I perfected while climbing trees and blank wood surfaces early on. There is nothing more satisfying than to rack up with a slew of half slings, select a nice large Oak tree with horizontal branches way off the deck, and girth hitch your way to the selected summit!! At any rate, the first ascent took 2 1/2 hours. Sadly, the route is now inaccesbile as I lost the house, property and climbing wall in divorce. Even sadder, this impressive wood tower is now a 42 ft high playhouse !!! On the second ascent, which is pictured, Jacko and Racko took two hours to get to the top of the first pitch, and the tower support cables were clearly stressed. They never made the top, which is a tribute to the difficulty of this route, and my lack of judgement in selecting climbing partners !!
Cracko
PS Long-standing rumors suggesting that Festus is my brother are simply not true !!
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jan 19, 2008 - 10:49pm PT
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The team, while slowly plying their way, took Saturdays off for the Sabbath. It's rumoured that their religious "observances" were a little out of the ordinary. Dressed in plaid shirts, caulk boots, and suspenders, they belted out a rousing chorus of "We're lumberjacks, and we're ok.", while doing a can can.
The Morals & Ethics Committee is investigating reports that the team wore frilly pink nighties, and included teddies in their 1,200 kg of luggage. A spokesperson said "What kind of style is that? They're making us real he man climbers look like a bunch of pansies. I mean, they don't know the secret password or have a decoder ring or anything." It seemed that (some of the committee's members) had either a chip on their shoulder, or possibly a woody.
All participants were shortly after sentenced to a visit to the Total Perspective Vortex http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_Perspective_Vortex
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IntheFog
climber
Mostly the next place
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Jan 19, 2008 - 11:00pm PT
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"Stud finder"? Where'd that come from?
I said, "studfinder," and I'm the FPTUAPWIAT (First Person to use a Particular Word in a Thread).
I hope the responsible parties will own up to what they did.
And while we're at it, how come everybody's talking about sinkers? Maybe I spent too much time on stairs and floors, but in my book, nothing beats hot-dipped zinc.
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MSmith
Big Wall climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jan 19, 2008 - 11:11pm PT
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the team wore frilly pink nighties, and included teddies in their 1,200 kg of luggage
THAT'S A LIE!!!!
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E.L. "One"
Big Wall climber
Lancaster, California
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Jan 19, 2008 - 11:14pm PT
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Mighty Hiker,
It is quite possible that either of the two members of the attempted second ascent of WOW were sporting wood, and I won't speculate as to why. A little more history on wood ascents.
While visiting brother Jacko in Grass Valley a few years ago, I suggested a first ascent on a 100 ft. Jeffery Pine in his back yard. He reluctantly agreed, and I quickly racked up with 8 eye screws and slings and cast off. During the gut-wrenchingly exposed first 40 feet, I was forced to place five eye screws in a row before the diameter of the tree decreased to a point where I could girth hitch a large sling around it for upward progress.
That led to the first branch which enabled me to free climb for another 20 ft. until I reached a suitable place for a belay. Some 70 ft off the ground I slapped in a two sling belay and rapped to the ground. Jacko then got out the jumars and attempted to clean the pitch but came to a grinding halt at the forty foot level due to brutal technique, and had to be lowered to the ground. Our plan was to add another pitch to the climb during my next visit which would entail chain-sawing off a few branches to clear the way. I suggested to Jacko that he "work" the climb a few times before my next vist to assure it's viability. Upon my return a year later, the first ascent eye screws were completely buried by tree sap, and the pitch was never "worked" after the first ascent. Damit! wood ascents are challenging affairs that require frequent maintenance and vision.
I am confident that the route will go to the 100 ft level, and hold my brother accountable for failure to maintain the project.
Fortunately, no one thus far has objected to the style of the first attempt, although my brother's Jack Russell did crap at the base of the tree !!!
Cracko
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jan 19, 2008 - 11:23pm PT
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Mr. Smith has denied the part about the pink nighties and the teddies. Which must mean everything else is TRUE!
(Climbers at Squamish have front pointed up trees, and nailed them. It gets kind of rainy around here.)
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MSmith
Big Wall climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jan 19, 2008 - 11:26pm PT
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Mr. Smith has denied the part about the pink nighties and the teddies. Which must mean everything else is TRUE!
IT IS NOT ALL TRUE!!! For example, we only hauled 1,000 kg of, um, stuff, not the 1,200 kg you report.
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Walla Walla, WA
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Jan 20, 2008 - 01:03am PT
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I want to set the record straight about some of the speculations that have been appearing on this thread! I know it's a free country, but you people are NOT at liberty to spew all the CRAP there has been on this thread in the name of "free speech." There are LAWS against saying just any sort of wild thing that comes into your head, and, furthermore, lest I be completely misunderstood on this critical subject, there is a DEEP philosophical issue at play here, and I am determined to set you all straight about it!
It has been CLAIMED that we were singing, "We're lumberjacks, and we're ok." That paints us as arrogant jerks, which we are NOT!!! You are NOT at liberty to speculate about our characters like that. What we actually were singing was, "We're lumberjacks, and we're not too bad." There is a HUGE difference, and if we were singing the former rather than the latter, I would remember because of the meticulous records I was keeping!!!
Holy crapola, Batman! Find out the FACTS before you spew!!!
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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Jan 20, 2008 - 01:19am PT
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Hoh man, I'm going to pop a gut!
I'm sure you guys, all of you guys (wingers, porters, canadians, cardiac rehabers,... others)
will feel better and sleep sounder for this!
How did mr smooth, who surfs up the tallest plywood this side of Mavericks, miss this one?
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Festus
Social climber
Enron by the Sea
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 20, 2008 - 03:24am PT
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Talk about delusions of grandeur! While Cracko does, in fact, correctly identify the pictured FA team on Wings of Plywood, he goes on to claim that it was actually the route's second ascent, and that he not only did the first--solo--but built the tower it ascends??!! This claim is a bit embarrassing for me to discuss publicly, other than to say it is complete hallucination, and all the court needed to see to grant me power of attorney over my brother's affairs. That last fact doesn't commit me to much, aside from deciding who gets his Ugg boots when he croaks from a tainted corn dog at the Antelope Valley Spittoon Festival...or drunkenly stumbles into the monster backhoe semi-finals.
And I have no idea who MSmith and madbolter are, but for them to joke about this epic and respected climb, albeit of a lesser known climbing mecca, is, is--hey, wait a minute! I think they may simply have their climbs confused. Their accounts square with those from the first ascent of the WalMart of the Early Morning Light, in Victorville. If so, hats off, boys! That's a stellar route in them parts.
Everybody in Antelope Valley knows that the formation which Wings of Plywood ascends is a result of the food shopping habits of locals. No grocery store chain can manage a foothold in A.V., and the Wings of Plywood spire rose when an aspiring Arco station franchisee realized he could make a killing with a four-story AM-PM mini market. Alas, he lost the funds needed to finish the project when his meth lab exploded and his food stamps were revoked. As for the deluded Cracko, parts of his delusion are born of fact. He did lose the property adjacent to that on which Wings of Plywood rises, and in the manner he describes. Which reminds me of the old A.V. joke: What's the difference between an Antelope Valley divorce and a tornado?
Either way, someone is fixin' to lose a trailer.
Admittedly, Cracko has built a few half-ass wood test pieces, his finest effort being the traverse wall at the Quartz Hill Country Club (pictured below during the grand opening).
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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Jan 20, 2008 - 03:38am PT
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Not to break character or anything but... Any of ya'll have any insights on how to talk, 'powers that be' into the view that it's okay to have a climbing wall on a middle school campus and even pay for it? They've been doing it in the the Uk since Ron Fawcett was a tyke. can it be worse than a jungle gym?
anyway some places have them, if you know or hear anything please share.
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Festus
Social climber
Enron by the Sea
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 20, 2008 - 03:54am PT
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Dammit, Jaybro! You're forcing me to confess that my brother actually owns a legit climbing wall, and tows it onto his middle school campus for climbing competitions. I think he even started a climbing club for his students. But he does all this wearing Ugg boots.
You got any other inexcusable thread drift in mind, take it off forum!
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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Jan 20, 2008 - 10:14am PT
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Any gutless wonder using eye hooks has sawdust for brains. Screw eyes are for LOSERS who should not be on the big sheet in the first place. Roofing nails should be used to keep the commitment level high. This is the way it has ALWAYS been done.
IF the figurines were not hand painted by native Americans, you're in a world of hurt there too.
Hell you guys are pikers at any rate. back in the day, I hitched and freed my way up to the top of a 5 inch sapling to rescue a cat, and didn't even bother to record the ascent. IT was TC, totally clean, rapped off a fork with the cat in a back pack. I'm calling it W5, for Wood 5.
See how much good your precious stud finder is on a REAL woody-- NOTHING but wood! Saplings, done free or at least metal free-- to the summit! THAT"S the real deal.
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Festus
Social climber
Enron by the Sea
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 20, 2008 - 10:47am PT
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radical,
clearly you've never driven through Quartz Hill.
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MSmith
Big Wall climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jan 20, 2008 - 11:32am PT
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So saying that WOP is a mere W4 POS isn't good enough, huh?...Now you even deny that I FA'd the route, producing some carefully angled pics to try to prove your case. Hey, this thread is about Me, Myself, and I. My ego, my wounds, my feelings. Now you want it to be about you, your wall, your A.V. accomplishments. Fine, I'm outta here. This is my last WOP post. If you talk more trash about me and I don't respond, don't assume it's not because I don't have something to say. Humph.
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E.L. "One"
Big Wall climber
Lancaster, California
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Jan 20, 2008 - 12:28pm PT
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Jaybro,
I got the beta on breaking through the "powers that be" to establish a climbing wall on a public school campus, complete with risk management statistics (cheerleading happens to be the school activity with the highest per capita serious injury and death!), and a well written presentation to the School Board. Of course, a superintendent who's into off-road racing doesn't hurt !! Now let me get back to defending myself against those who wish continue to question my character and competence !!
Cracko
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Festus
Social climber
Enron by the Sea
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 20, 2008 - 01:34pm PT
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I want to also go on record in full support of IntheFog's brilliant and precedent-setting principle of FPTUAWIAPT. I support both him and his clear rights to "studfinder" in this thread.
Oh, and I get farfugnugen.
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Walla Walla, WA
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Jan 20, 2008 - 06:31pm PT
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I can't believe Mark's weakness in his lengthy "admission" earlier. What a bunch of sheet! He just wants to get back in the good graces of the plywood community, even if it means nail-gunning his long-time friend and partner. Sheeeeeeet!
Take a close look at the above picture and anybody can CLEARLY see that there is NO evidence of probing anywhere. Of course, we're still in the band of good ACX, just below the start of the OSB, but those are some CLEAN sheets! Also, this pic proves that WE have the FA. US, US, US!!! Are we clear?
We did NOT probe! It's impossible to PROVE a negative existential claim, but we did NOT probe!
Also, I am NOT being defensive right now! I just love the wood!
(I can't BELIEVE Mark did that... sheeeeet!)
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jan 20, 2008 - 08:09pm PT
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It should not go unobserved that all REAL MEN™ pump wood. At Thrash Thursdays™, for example - http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=263691
Indeed, proficiency at pumping plywood is a long standing secret training technique for Yosemite HAIRY MONSTERS™, HARD MEN™, and other sultans of the steep. Pummel plywood and you'll never get stranded.
There are rumours of a top secret state of the art plywood training facility deep in the woods behind Camp 4.
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Oakville, Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Jan 21, 2008 - 08:19pm PT
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I frickin' KNEW it! They were singing,
"I cut down trees, I wear high heels
Suspendees and a brar
I wish I'd been a girlie
Just like my dear pappar...."
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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Jan 21, 2008 - 08:24pm PT
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Oops got behind on this one.
-Nice 'photo' MB-1!
-I'll be in touch, Cracko
-Anders, I that the sunol crack, at least, is particle board, not plywood, I'll look closer, next time.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jul 15, 2008 - 01:41pm PT
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As one of the Wings of Steel threads has risen from the dead, this one should also be revived.
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Jul 15, 2008 - 04:54pm PT
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Are we sure this wasn't rap-bolted????
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jul 15, 2008 - 04:54pm PT
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Even more sordid than that - rap nailed!
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Jul 15, 2008 - 05:57pm PT
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does Hilti even make a nail gun?
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nvrws
climber
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Jul 15, 2008 - 05:57pm PT
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hey, I was there when mark and richard climbed those pieces of sheet. I thought they were pretty dagummed BOWLED especially when it began to rain on that mds sheeet. People were pissed but I thought hey it isn't my piece of sheeet they can do whatever they want with it. power to the sheeet may it last forever.
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nature
climber
Santa Fe, NM
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So has anyone gone back up there to do the second on this route or did it get chopped (or sawzalled?)
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Cracko
Trad climber
Quartz Hill, California
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Jan 31, 2009 - 04:27pm PT
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Nature,
Sorry, I dozed off for a year. The second ascent of WOP was completed by me, solo, when I snuck back onto my ex-wife's property to recover all the hand holds left on the wood tower. I gingerly hooked my way up the gutwrenchingly exposed tower under a full moon and successfully recovered 52 Metolious holds while recording the second ascent. As a result of my removal of 52 artificial holds, the route is now much more serious. Rumor has it that brother Festus, who has retained a good relationship with my ex wife, is contemplating a third ascent. Sadly, he's still trying to learn how to tie a figure eight knot!!
Cracko
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Jan 31, 2009 - 04:35pm PT
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Cracko, I have renewed interest in plywood walls in a sped curriculum. I had an IEP meeting yesterday for one of my charges, who has right/left symmetry coordination issues. the A.P.E. teacher mentioned that she was going to have him jump back and forth over a slightly raised beam. Sounds like a good idea, but made me think that some climbing wall activities would be good for him ( and others) as well. Didn't get to talk to her about it, but I will, this next week.
I think there is potential that seems barely tapped for special needs kids, on the wings of plywood.
We gotta talk sometime...
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Cracko
Trad climber
Quartz Hill, California
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Jan 31, 2009 - 05:00pm PT
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Jaybro,
A couple years back, I had Mark Wellman come to my middle school and do a climbing demonstration on my portable wall. While there, he helped me work with special needs kids and gave me a bunch of ideas on climbing wall applications in special education. He even gave me a special harness, made by Petzl, for wheel chair bound kids. Anyway, we do need to talk.
Cracko
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nature
climber
Tucson, AZ
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Jan 31, 2009 - 05:24pm PT
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Thanks for the update. It's a proud line and it sound like it's now harder/better.
Pass along your ex-wifes number :-). I'll give it a run....
(the route!!!)
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Jacko
Trad climber
Grass Valley Ca.
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Jan 31, 2009 - 07:34pm PT
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Nature, that is some good humor...Don't feel bad, rumor has it the Pool Boy was laying some pipileno while poor Cracko Hooked his way up the 2 day First Ascent...Jacko
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Festus
Mountain climber
Enron by the Sea
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2009 - 10:06pm PT
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Dammit, Jacko, that caused me to spit a mouthful of Negra Modelo all over the keyboard!
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Festus
Mountain climber
Enron by the Sea
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2009 - 10:06pm PT
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As many others have pointed out, this is what is so awesome about ST Forum: the photos of great moments in the sport's history that show up here, the sudden appearance of yet another renowned climber on this board discussing one of those climbs and shedding new and more penetrating light and perception on historic, watershed moments. The great climbs, the great climbers...
Inspired as I often am by many a climbing thread here, I spent days in the archives and unearthed the following long-forgotten photos. Enjoy!
Day two, first ascent of Wings of Plywood
And yes, Nature, there was a pool
The somewhat mysterious Thad nears the summit
And yes, my brother Bob (Cracko) was a land baron back in the day. This shot, taken about fifty yards from the infamous Wings of Plywood pinnacle, shows him with my son (who is now almost 11). I had this shot up on the screen a few minutes ago and my wife said "Oh my god, look at Bob, he was half the size he is now!" Yep, spit another mouthful of Negra Modelo on the keyboard.
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Does Wellman tour? Can he borrow your portable wall?
Do you have a photo of that wheelchair harness?
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Feb 25, 2009 - 03:54pm PT
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Another good thread. Climbers, plying their trade. Woodn't it be nice if...?
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Fritz
Trad climber
Hagerman, ID
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How did I stumble on this thread tonight for the first time??
Fate? or bad karma?
Hat's off to those "real men" using roofing nails on tough ascents.
My only advice is: to keep sounding cool, you need to change back in the day to "bitd"
Bump for some fun!
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Cracko
Trad climber
Quartz Hill, California
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All of my detractors are wannabe wankers with rice dicks !!!! W.O.P. still awaits a second ascent. Grossman ???? PTPP ????
Cracko
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
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I'm pretty good at nailing, but are screws ok?
How about glue? If so, what kind?
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deuce4
climber
Hobart, Australia
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MisterE
Social climber
Bouncy Tiggerville
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With constructive scarring it could go free some day.
Shouldn't that be "construction scarring"...
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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An attempt on the notorious climb, during the FaceLift.
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