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apogee

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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Nov 12, 2013 - 02:02pm PT
Puppies!

(Or just looks like one?)
thebravecowboy

Social climber
Colorado Plateau
Nov 13, 2013 - 08:16pm PT
Credit: thebravecowboy
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 15, 2013 - 03:20pm PT
On-the-road Jack, 1998-2013





ontheedgeandscaredtodeath

Social climber
SLO, Ca
Nov 15, 2013 - 03:36pm PT
Throw the dang ball again!!!

Credit: ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
FRUMY

Trad climber
Bishop,CA
Nov 15, 2013 - 04:18pm PT
Chiloe, sorry for your loss.

Jack did start the best thread on ST.
Ron Anderson

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Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Nov 15, 2013 - 04:24pm PT
Yes Chiloe,, sorry for the loss of your family member. If there was one fantastic thing i could do, it would be to make dogs lives as long as ours.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 15, 2013 - 04:25pm PT
"A Dog's Life," indeed. I named the thread thinking of Jack, and it's opened to embrace so many other wonderful doggie lives too.

eKat

Trad climber
Less than a second shy of 49 minutes
Nov 15, 2013 - 04:32pm PT
OH NO!

Sweet, sweet Jack!

OXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Nov 15, 2013 - 07:10pm PT
Oh sweet Jack...this is just heartbreaking....every time I open this thread to see his sweet bandaged self has always made me very happy!

Susan
eKat

Trad climber
Less than a second shy of 49 minutes
Nov 15, 2013 - 08:36pm PT
I remember right after Skadi crossed The Rainbow Bridge, she came to me in a dream and asked me to send her joint medicine to Jack so he could run free in the woods. She was like that, always sharin' her magic!

Now they're together goin' fwimmy and runnin' free in the woods. . . waiting for us to join them!

PEACE!

ox
Edge

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Nov 15, 2013 - 08:41pm PT
Truly special dogs are gifts to a select few. My thoughts are with you, Chiloe, as you mourn the loss of your magnificent friend. May he live with you forever in your heart.

Cheers,
Loran
nita

Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
Nov 15, 2013 - 09:50pm PT

Chiloe...

Sending sincere condolences to ~Sophie, Leslie and you...
15 years was a good run..

Jack, RIP...We miss you already..)-;
pocoloco1

Social climber
The Chihuahua Desert
Nov 15, 2013 - 10:56pm PT

"On-the-road Jack, 1998-2013"

Sorry to read that news.Thanks for sharing Jack.
apogee

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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Nov 16, 2013 - 06:40pm PT
Bump 'cuz I really want to hear lots of perspectives on raw vs. commercial petfood diets...
thebravecowboy

Social climber
Colorado Plateau
Nov 16, 2013 - 06:44pm PT
it's tough getting old. Jack don't need to stress it any more. you done him good Chiloe.
apogee

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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Nov 16, 2013 - 06:49pm PT
Do any of you feed your pups a raw meat diet?

My boarder is a pet nutritionist, and he's a big proponent of raw meat diets for dogs. His rationale is based on (in part) the fact that dogs are truly and genetically carnivores, and their digestive system (and mouths/teeth) are designed for meat diets. Further, while dogs have been domesticated for thousands of years, commercial foods have only been around for about ~150 years. He posits that many typical dog ailments are related to the large amounts of grain in typical commercial dog foods.

One may consider his view biased because he also prepares & sells a raw meat food product for dogs, but one also may see this as an outgrowth of a strong belief that he holds. In any case, I've been aware of this for some time, and the raw meat proponent's arguments make a fair amount of intuitive sense.

If you feed your dog(s) such a diet, what benefits or effects have you observed? Have you seen any illnesses in your dog(s) that seemed likely to be related to that diet?

What is the source of your food? The content?
The Larry

climber
Moab, UT
Nov 16, 2013 - 06:49pm PT
Sorry Larry, Jack was lucky to find you. I'm sure you gave him a great life.

David Knopp

Trad climber
CA
Nov 16, 2013 - 08:33pm PT
first, Chiloe, sorry for your best friend.

on to raw food-i am a chef, have a lot of good scraps around-from meats that i would eat-the beagle gets the bone, the cartilage, some skin and flesh, of chicken beef and lamb. he also by choice eats various fruits and vegetables-that combined with a tiny amount of fancy grain and gluten free kibble has kept him pretty darn healthy-he's 10, and just did a long day in the Sierras, 6 miles to around 12.000 feet. So yes i think it's good but dont be too neurotic about it. Buddy the 10 year old is bottom right.

Credit: David Knopp
Timid TopRope

Social climber
'used to be Paradise, CA
Nov 16, 2013 - 09:20pm PT
Apogee. We did the raw meat diet for our dog for three or four years. Huge commitment and more expensive.

On the plus side: typical stinky dog smell vanished. Her poop disolved to white powder and the poop was not stinky. Her coat was super shiny. It helped her bad hips also. Her teeth were very clean.

Minus side: expensive. Lots of prep (we added vitamins and lots of carrots and green beans. Taking our dog on trips was complicated as prepping raw meals and keeping things sanitary is a challenge on the road. Also a challenge for hired dog sitters requiring lots of written instructions.

Amazingly, raw chicken bones are not a problem like cooked chicken.

Our dog was a Lab and she loved it. A friend's non Lab didn't take to it right away but likes it now.

We had guidance from the book, "Natural Nutrition for Dogs and Cats" by Kymythy R. Schultze.

I can't use my PM from ST but nita says if you'd like the book she will mail it to you if you PM her.
apogee

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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Nov 16, 2013 - 09:52pm PT
Thanks, DK & TTR.

I've heard the same benefits re: waste, teeth & coat.

The product my boarder makes would probably cost around $25/month to feed Max...the good-quality commercial food he's eating right now costs $53/30 lbs, and lasts at least two months. Definitely a cost increase.

The logistics around it sound problematic, too: takes up space in the freezer & fridge, dogsitters have to follow close directions, and like you mention: roadtrips would be a PITA.

Is it feasible to do raw meat at home, and go with kibble periodically? Some don't seem to recommend this, as the digestive process for either is differing...on the other hand, it seems kind of silly that a dog...who's genetically-wired for scavenging...couldn't handle an occasional shift like that...?
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