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WandaFuca
Social climber
From the gettin place
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Dec 10, 2009 - 04:40pm PT
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Wildone,
1. Wanda is not juan/jeff.
2. You need to work on your reading comprehension.
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wildone
climber
GHOST TOWN
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Dec 10, 2009 - 06:13pm PT
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I always thought you were a pseudonym of Jeff's. Sorry for that. As for my reading comprehension, please elucidate.
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WandaFuca
Social climber
From the gettin place
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Dec 10, 2009 - 06:25pm PT
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I agree with all your positions as you stated them . . . except the one about being a moron.
Some tried to control/limit the comments to this thread to oorahs.
My point was that they would not want the comments so limited if they felt SEALs' and other warriors' sacrifices were being disrespected by sending them to fight for what they would consider a needless war, against our best interests.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 10, 2009 - 07:40pm PT
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Wanda, thanks for shitting all over my thread that was supposed to be about Navy SEALS, not your personal feelings regarding war.
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WandaFuca
Social climber
From the gettin place
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Dec 10, 2009 - 08:15pm PT
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You're welcome!
If you just want to have a circle jerk--oooh, heroic and bold . . . aaah, so brave and daring . . . uuuuugghhnn, so tough and badass--I don't think that really shows true respect or appreciation.
The SEALs don't operate in a vacuum; they perform all their bad-assedness where OUR government sends them. The best way to SHOW our respect for their sacrifices is by calling our government to account for wasting their heroism unnecessarily.
A warrior who fights and dies in a needless war is still a hero, but if you support such a waste of heroism with your mindless prattle and jacking, you're a villain.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 10, 2009 - 08:42pm PT
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but if you support such a waste of heroism with your mindless prattle and jacking, you're a villain.
Look, dickhead!!!
This was a thread about SEALS and how disciplined and honorable they are. NOT about wars and whether or not SEALS want to be there. YOU added that dimension to it!
You chose to bring your disdain for the current wars into a thread that honored SEALS. They do much more than fight in Afghan/Iraqi conflicts.
Asshole!
Usually you apologize for hijacking a thread too. But I don't expect that from trash like you.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Dec 10, 2009 - 08:48pm PT
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There will always be a need for someone to take out the trash.
We are fortunate that those, so able, step up to the task.
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WBraun
climber
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Dec 10, 2009 - 08:51pm PT
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This was a thread about SEALS and how disciplined and honorable they are. NOT about wars and whether or not SEALS want to be there.
Yeah .... !!!!!! LOL
Now ya all STFU and say nice things about these bad ass boys or say nothin at all.
Climbers still can kick their asses on land though :-)
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 10, 2009 - 09:07pm PT
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Now ya all STFU and say nice things about these bad ass boys or say nothin at all.
Werner, I don't see how anyone could say a bad thing about SEALS. Am I missing something?
You keep comparing them to how they can't climb like a badass like yourself, can you drop out of a plane at 90,000 feet and open your chute at low altitude?
Can you drop a terrorist holding a US captive firing from one bobbing ship to another accurately, and complete the mission? 3 shots 3 kills at a couple hundred yards from ships bobbing in the sea?
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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Dec 10, 2009 - 09:10pm PT
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Nobody has said anything bad about the seals. Some just have a different idea of what it takes to show respect.
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WBraun
climber
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Dec 10, 2009 - 11:10pm PT
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Bluering -- "You keep comparing them to how they can't climb like a badass like yourself"
Just for you;
Did I mention anything about climbing? Nope.
Are you putting words into peoples mouths ? Yes
I said "On land"
And just What does this really mean? Is your head still spinning trying grasp what that means?
In "Survival of the fittest" all the bad ass military guys were left in the dust by the climbers.
There were some tough events in there and climbing wasn't one of em.
When comparing shooting, toughness under fire, hand to hand combat and all that stuff, they will destroy you.
But you get the idea ... ?
Or you just don't.
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Jingy
Social climber
Flatland, Ca
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Dec 10, 2009 - 11:23pm PT
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Wildone - Tell it like it is, bro!!!! Holy cow.. that was a serious rant about what I see as the entire republican platform/way of life~!!!
Cheers to ya...
Blue - You have no control over what you have started.. get used to it... IT is life.. and the more you try to control it, the more it will get away from you....
I again, have to say that I admire and honor those who would fight a good fight... Unfortunately... there are no good fights... anywhere!!!!
So that means that the money spent to train these elite fighters... the cost of care if injured, the cost of transport... the cost of pay to those putting their lives on the line... As an American who does not believe in Socialism.. I'm not sure that this republican agenda isn't socialism in reverse.. or better put.. In order for an unjust war to continue, the armed forces have to create fake events in order to insure that our American leaders continue to pay, with the taxpayer dollar, which is basically my taxes that I pay every year!!!!!
I know that most of you might not be able to think outside/beyond the very narrow confines of the FLOX news/Savage/or that other blowhard you all quote so often... but America needs to check its self... we are losing our "Leaders of the free world" standing... we have taken the globe for granted with all our consumption, endless use of the earths materials (materials that, I understand, are not limitless, as the people at (Insert your favorite automaker here!) seem to think.
We are pathetic.
So.......
I'll keep climbing..... Hope to get a few pick, then I'll die and leave the rest to y'all to fight over...
Oh yeah, let those that stand up and cheer "our" troops without considering the traumas that their very existence breeds (either done to the troops, or by the troops)... let you be the first to wear your stars and stripes... you keep living in the bubble of your own creation where none of the realities of WAR actually exist.. You know.. the stuff that happened to the HONORED VIET NAM VETS (just keep pretending they don't exist all over american streets.... hey, republican???? Where do you think those that you say America honors now are going to end up?????????
Keep your heads in the sand, everything is going to plan, everything is happy, and war is good... (repeat after your favorite right-wing talk show jackass... it makes you look like a genius!!!)
As far as you know!
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Jingy
Social climber
Flatland, Ca
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Dec 10, 2009 - 11:24pm PT
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Hey, that was all made up too!!!
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WBraun
climber
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Dec 10, 2009 - 11:28pm PT
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Jingy
What's that got to do with the seals?
Your post belongs in the political thread.
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Jingy
Social climber
Flatland, Ca
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Dec 10, 2009 - 11:32pm PT
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Hey, just honoring the seals with a little reality check werner...
you can read, get to it!!
LOL
Cheers dreamer!
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WBraun
climber
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Dec 10, 2009 - 11:43pm PT
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So
The sum substance point of what you're trying to bring across is;
If the "Head" the Administration is in poor fund of knowledge then no matter how strong and powerful the "ARMS" ( military) the end result will create ruinous damage to the entire whole.
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Jingy
Social climber
Flatland, Ca
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Dec 11, 2009 - 11:01am PT
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keep reading.....
bad interpretation, Braun
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Dec 11, 2009 - 11:58am PT
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Cragman wrote
"It takes a patriot to understand the honor due a SEAL. Anarchists and seditionists need to find another country."
Just be sure you'd take your own advice and shut up if the seals were used to put down an attempted coup in Venezuela so Chavez could keep power.
People who give the military lip service honor without defending him from abuse from political misuse, and poisons like DU and Agent Orange are playing in to propaganda that seeks to honor the military with words so people will be inspired to sign up and die.
Seal have no say, no power, and no right to opinion regarding where they are sent and what they are exposed to. Whose job is it then?
Peace
Karl
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 11, 2009 - 12:27pm PT
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I fail to see why the CIA hiring 'specialists' to help them is a big deal. They were operating in a war zone. Wouldn't you want highly trained people to assist you in covert operations that involved identifying/apprehending/ and supervising terrorists?
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