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doughnutnational
Gym climber
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Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 9, 2007 - 04:18pm PT
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I see the names of many old time famous climbers mentioned on supertopo. I'd like mention an old time not as famous but very talented climber: Bill Price. I had the privelege of climbing a little bit with Mr. Price over the years and he was as good as any climber I've ever watched. He put up A5 routes on El Cap and 5.13 free climbs, all while managing to remain very humble. Let's hear it for one of the best Yosemite climbers of the 1970's and 80's.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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That guys hands were as big as bear paws. How the heck did he get his fingers into Silly Willy?
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Maysho
climber
Truckee, CA
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Yeah, about time!
One of the mellowest, humblest, really hard crankin dudes I have ever known. A couple of years older, his example drove me hard in my teen years. Hearing that Bill had led butterballs at age 15 inspired me to do the same. How lucky was I to have a personal hero who I got to climb with. As I recall, he did the next send of Tales of Power after Mark & Max.
A memorable couple of days was when Steve Hong came to the valley in '79 to "learn how to jam better", (as we know, he learned pretty well) the three of us went down to Tales, with Bill giving me the encouragement I needed to send the lead, then went over to work on the Phoenix. None of us got very far, working on the opening traversing crux moves after the chipped corner. Soon thereafter Bill went back, went up to check out the crux moves again and to his surprise pulled the traverse, but had not taken any rack for the remainder of the stout crack. Hanging off the finger lock, he had his belayer tie the rack onto the rappel line and swing it into him. He hauled up the gear one handed, put it on and cranked to the top for the third ascent. No better effort was seen on that climb till years later when Moffat did it onsight.
Another great climb was the (probably 2nd) ascent of Sea of Dreams. He went up there with his new girlfriend Angie as a belayer and led every pitch.
Never sprayed, never slandered, always supportive of everyone elses efforts, he just quietly got it done, one of the very best climbers of the era for sure.
Peter
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Russ Walling
Social climber
Out on the sand.... man.....
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Bill Price = Bad Asssssssssssssss™
We got to talk to him about Bad Sign before me and Walt went up.... he told us some stuff that was a good recipe for snaileye, but was rooting for us just the same. Thanks Bill!
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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Only met him briefly, He's done it all, all that counts, anyway.
Anyone know whatever happened to Tim Washik? Bill's bad sign partner that I went to high school with?
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Mark Hudon
Trad climber
Hood River, OR
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I always thought Bill was one of the most talented climbers I ever met. Great guy also.
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Blitzo
Social climber
Earth
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Photos by Blitzo.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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cosmic debris. 'nuff said. the man.
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Blitzo
Social climber
Earth
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The last time I saw Washik, he was living in South Lake Tahoe. We used to ski at Kirkwood. That was mid 1990s.
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Blitzo
Social climber
Earth
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Angie 1982.
Photo by Blitzo.
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WBraun
climber
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Bill was and awesome climber, just fuking awesome and great guy with two beautiful sons and beautiful wife Angie.
Met him first time for real on Half Dome with Dave Dieglman (sp?) sitting on a ledge half way up cold and miserable. I rappelled 1000' some feet to them and there was Bill and Dave.
I said Hi, here's my radio, tell me what it says" hahahaha.
He saved my ass .....
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doughnutnational
Gym climber
hell
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 9, 2007 - 09:18pm PT
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Blitzo, Thanks for posting the great pictures. There a good reminder of how old I really am.
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Maysho
climber
Truckee, CA
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Great shots Blitzo!
Donut, who are ya?
Peter
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doughnutnational
Gym climber
hell
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 9, 2007 - 11:30pm PT
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Hey Mr Mayfield,
I'm a Kevin Ludwig. I first met you when I used to climb with the Zaccor brothers (mid 1970's?). I remember hearing about you as a "10 yearold kid from the Bay Area who could easily climb 5.10" and had the honor of talking with you from time to time over the years. My most recent encounter with you was with Andrew Stevens last year in Lee Vining.
I met Bill Price, Augie Kline, Dave Diegleman, Kurt Reider, Kath Besio and the rest of the Ravenswood climbers when I began climbing at Rattlesnake Rock. It didn't take long before I realized that these folks were special climbers. At that time my sister was going to Ravenswood and she told me "Bill Price said that if you want to be a real climber you need to come to Ravenswood". Well I never became what you would call a "real climber", but I did transfer to Ravenswood as soon as possible I continue to climb poorly to this day. I treasure the memories of the times I was fortunate enough to spend with those folks and other "real climbers over the years".
One of my fondest climbing memories is going to Little Wing with Bill on the day before my wedding. He enouraged me to lead some climb (don't remember which one) and when I was successful he seemed almost as pleased as I was. It certainly would not have challenged Bill, but his encouragement meant alot to me. (Later that day I fell off my bike racing A.S. Stevens and visited the clinic for stitches in my head. I guess he won)
As Gary Zaccor once said to me memories were the real reason we continue to climb.
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Chicken Skinner
Trad climber
Yosemite
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Nice shots Blitzo,
I have been meaning to look them up as they live in the same town that my Dad has retired in. I agree with all the above, talented, mellow, and one of the nicest people you would ever meet. They visited me in a South Lake Tahoe Hospital after I had major surgery and recovered while on morphine. I remember them visiting me but not very many of the other visitors. I have other memories as well under better circumstances.
Ken
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nita
climber
chico ca
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Bill & Angie = Wonderful, kind folks. I miss those guys, I hear they live in the Nevada city area.
Angie and Karen Slevin...L dorm/ or was it K dorm...........
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WBraun
climber
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Yeah Mark
Me and Kauk rapped to them.
Mike Graham I think was there along with so many others I can't remember who.
A lot of them were the Stonemasters.
Bev Johnson was Team leader.
What I remember the most was me and Ron were looking down the wall and could not see more than 10 feet down. Ron asks me where should we lower the ropes. I guessed "right here".
Bill or Dave (can't remember which one) said he felt this thing going down his neck and it was the rope, hahahaha
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can't say
Social climber
Pasadena CA
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Aug 10, 2007 - 12:35am PT
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Hey Kevin Ludwig, great to see you are still alive and kicking. Feisty as ever I imagine. It's been a while since we hung together at Huntington Lake with Mike Paul and Shawn Curtis. Hope all is well with you.
folks check out Kevin's climbing shoe of choice back then. He was doing his best to become at one with the stone:)
cheers
Pat Nay
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funky toes
Social climber
modesto
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Aug 10, 2007 - 12:46am PT
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I never could make my fingers small enough to do the Silly Willy crack!!
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Blitzo
Social climber
Earth
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Aug 10, 2007 - 01:21am PT
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Photo by Blitzo.
Bill told me that rescue story. He said they were really glad to see you SAR guys!
Nita-Karen Slevin! Wow, that brings back memories. Last time I saw her, she was working at Sahara Tahoe. That was around 1981.
I remember when she was hanging with Roger Bannister.
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Blitzo
Social climber
Earth
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Aug 10, 2007 - 01:35am PT
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I don't have any good shots of Roger.
I have one of he and Errett, with some other derelics, at the Deli, in 1974. We drank 17 bottles of wine that day. Errett puked all night! I'll look for it, but it's not a good shot.
Cashner has photos of Roger.
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Jim Wilcox
Boulder climber
Santa Barbara
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Aug 10, 2007 - 09:31am PT
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"Well I never became what you would call a "real climber", but I did transfer to Ravenswood as soon as possible I continue to climb poorly to this day. "
Kevin, I figured if any thread would make you post this would be the one. And while we all appreciate your humbleness, you were, and stil are, one hell of a climber. I'm sure Pat would agree.
You earned the right to hang with the Big dogs.
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Aug 10, 2007 - 01:47pm PT
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Bill and I used to play together as kids when I lived in Menlo Park on Sherman Ave. I moved and later began to rock climb. I heard about this guy who was a real yosemite climber named Bill Price and wondered if it was the same guy. I eventually ran into him in yose when I used to hang out with Yerian. It was the same guy, and he actually remembered me. Wow. A real "down to earth" guy with a great smile and a big heart. Cheers, Bill.
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Maysho
climber
Truckee, CA
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Aug 10, 2007 - 02:15pm PT
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Howdy Kevin! Great to see you here.
Peter
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can't say
Social climber
Pasadena CA
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Aug 10, 2007 - 07:20pm PT
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Hi Jim, good to see you again too dude. Yeah, Kevin always was overly humble given his go-for-it style of climbing.
bergheil
Pat
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Jim Wilcox
Boulder climber
Santa Barbara
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Aug 10, 2007 - 08:24pm PT
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Yo Pat!
Hope all is well. Saw your livin' in my hometown now. Good area, lotsa fun. Just stay away from Sierra Madre-buncha derelicts there :)
Had the privilige of climbing with lud a month ago. Besides bouldering I hadn't been on the sharp end in forever. So, of course day 2 is on Power Dome. Kevin was a sport and took over the leads when I threatened to throw up. Guess I looked serious.
I was at Kevins's wedding and met Diegelman(nice guy)-but didn't meet Bill Price.Bummer. He obviously left a mark on some other talented people
Kevin on Bald mountain near shaver lake June 07
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Blitzo
Social climber
Earth
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Aug 11, 2007 - 11:21am PT
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Silly Willy Price-1982.
Photo by Blitzo.
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Blitzo
Social climber
Earth
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Aug 11, 2007 - 11:24am PT
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Grand Illusion.
Photo by Blitzo.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Aug 11, 2007 - 11:40am PT
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Wow Blitzo your black and whites are really nice.
Do you have a portrait gallery somewhere?
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Blitzo
Social climber
Earth
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Aug 11, 2007 - 12:07pm PT
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No, I'm not much for portraits. I'm more into landscapes.
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Blitzo
Social climber
Earth
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Aug 11, 2007 - 01:13pm PT
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I'll post up some portraits for you, Crowley.
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Rick A
climber
Boulder, Colorado
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Aug 11, 2007 - 03:27pm PT
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Werner,
I remember that rescue well. It was a really fun time, the helicopter ride up and all, and happily, nobody was hurt. But at the end of the day, it turned out to be a pretty frightening experience. Thunderstorms were approaching as you and Kauk went down, and the group on top tending ropes, who I remember included Mike Graham and Sibylle Hechtyl, started to get very scared as dark clouds and stray bolts seemed to gather in a circle around Halfdome, which had one clear patch of sky directly overhead.
As we were hauling up the belay ropes, we all started noticing our hair standing on end and then a mild buzzing noise in our ears. This seemed amusing until it suddenly dawned on us that this was probably a prelude to a strike and from then on we tended the ropes as flat as possible on the naked summit. I remember that if you lowered your head about a foot, the buzzing would go away and we all tried to stay below this invisible ceiling. All I could think about were the signs posted on the summit, which said something like, “If you see any thunderclouds on the horizon, go down. People are frequently killed by lighting on Halfdome.”
The helicopter was an old Bell, the kind with the bubble cockpit. It was so underpowered that it had to switchback to gain altitude and it held only two passengers, seated on each side of the pilot. So it took many trips to get everyone down and Mike and I drew the last flight. I remember the silence and the lonely feeling as the chopper left. We tried to make ourselves very small, lying on ropes on the vast, flat summit. It started raining and the minutes dragged on as we waited, expecting that at any time the fatal strike would hit. Finally, we heard it approaching, then the helicopter rose over the South face and landed a few yards from us. We sprinted and jumped in, as glad to get on board as in those photos of the last flight out of Saigon.
The pilot took off before we even had our seat belts on and then I forgot all about the fear of lightning as I saw what was coming. We were skimming along about 10 feet high, and heading directly for the abyss of the Northwest face! I thought to myself, “ This is going to be good” and I was not disappointed. In slow motion, we approached the edge and then the bottom dropped out.As I watched that incredible face retreat behind me, the helicopter canted left and dove sharply down toward the valley. I will never forget it.
Rick
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Largo
Sport climber
Venice, Ca
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Aug 12, 2007 - 12:15am PT
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Would love to know what Bill is up to these days. Super guy and great climber - a natural, one of the few I ever saw.
Ask Bill about the pick up he had covered in shingles -- that all flew off. Angie and the kids are world-class.
JL
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Fuzzywuzzy
climber
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Sep 14, 2009 - 05:57pm PT
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All recognize Bill as what he is - extraordinary!
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Double D
climber
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Funny, I missed this thread first time around. Bill was an awesome climbing partner and friend. He’s the most naturally gifted crack climber I’ve ever seen. When I first met him he and his Jr. High buddies were nailing a 5.8 sandstone crack at our local bouldering area, Rattlesnake Rock and I started getting real intense with them for doing it…ya know it was just after Galen and Doug’s National Geographic clean ascent of Half Dome. He just sheepishly looked back, didn’t say a word. Fast forward 3 months he’s now in my high school and we became best buds.
Bouldering with Bill was at times comical. He really didn’t dig it all that much and rarely put any effort into it (in his early days) but then he’d pull off a test piece that we’d been working on for months totally out of the blue. Put a rope and rack on the boy, it was a whole different story. He could hang in there and place those crummy old hexes like nobody's business.
Rick Cashner and Bill at the Nose reunion
A very young Bill Price on our winter ascent of the Prow. Bill was 15, I think.
Thanks for all who risked their lives on that rescue. Ricky, your story of coming off the dome in the chopper puts things into perspective. That was a grim situation for us.
Blitzo…your photos are PRICEless! Tom you must have some other good photo’s of Excalibur like the one in Yos Climber of the bong and firewood stacks, no?
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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I sure wish that I would have recognized Bill at the Nose event. Any chance that he would be willing to post about his climbing exploits here on the ST?!?
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martygarrison
Trad climber
The Great North these days......
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Gosh blast from the past. I knew Rick when he was with Angie, then hung with Bill and her when he was working a hard route at lovers leap. I did the second accent of mainline or something with them working a route over to the left. Bill had just done the grand. Great folks, wish them well!
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Double D
climber
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Bill's a man of few, selected words. I will email him this link. He's not one to talk about himself, so I don't think we'll hear from him. He is a very gifted story teller and I hope he does joint the ranks of decay here.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Dave- e-mail him several of the primo Valley links to let him know who is around and how warm the ST campfire is. You have to set the hook...
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Daryl Hatten convinced Bill and Boris ( surname? ) "big wally" to come to Canada around 1979
I think his name was Mike Boris. I climbed with him a bit when he was up at Squamish with Bill. Mostly he seemed to go by Big Wally, though. Kind of similar to Darryl.
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Double D
climber
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"You have to set the hook..." LOL! I think I forgot the hooks. I might need to re-rack and go at it again.
Seriously I think Bill knows about the Taco stand but like I said he's a man of few words.
Mike Borris, aka "Big Wally" is indeed alive and well. Last I heard he and Bill were working together. It was Mike who first scouted Cosmic Debris and Born Under a Bad Sign. He's a great guy.
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Jobee
Social climber
The Portal
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Great Thread.
Angie and Bill; awesome climbers, wonderful people, great parents!
If you two are viewing this, wishing you the very best; get on up here to Yosemite sometime.
Great images!
Hey Pat,
What a great shot; awesome to see you this fall at the face lift, you looked fantastic!
Jo Whitford
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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The Price is right for a bump...
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Mark Hudon
Trad climber
Hood River, OR
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Yeah, Dave, when you next see Bill, tell him I said to say Hi!
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Chief
climber
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Great thread.
I had the privilege of knowing Bill back when he was "The Man".
Talented, soft spoken and a decent guy, no slagging, spraying or bad energy.
He came to Squamish for a visit and helped inspire all of us.
Glad to see him getting some recognition.
All the best wherever you are Bill!
Perry
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there say, all....
once again, supertopo is a wonderful teaching tool...
happy appreciation thread to you bill price..
i sure dont know anything about all these folks
here except what i have read and learned here...
such a vast amount of wonderful history!
also--each appreiation thread draws out more
wonderful folks and THEIR stories too...
nice history here, to learn about doughnutnational, too...
and:
about rescues and those that took to do so...
thanks all for being supertopos heart and soul...
and for really appreciationing so many climbers, here, as well...
god bless :)
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Sh^t, I love it when some cool old threads pop up again...
Bill, we all love you here, come and say hello. You are a bigger part of all of us that I imagine you couldn't imagine.
Wayne Miller, the kid down the street on Sherman Ave.
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Allen Hill
Social climber
CO.
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We hicks out here in Colorado were convinced you Californian's invented him to make us even more insecure. Sort of a Oliver Moon stunt.
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colin rowe
Trad climber
scotland uk
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Jun 27, 2010 - 01:19pm PT
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I climbed in the Valley in the Fall of 1977 arriving from England. I somehow met Bill and stayed on the rescue site. I had just turned 21 and Bill was seventeen (Bill mentioned that he had first climbed the Nose age 15). I had had an aborted attempt on the Nose and Bill very generously suggested we could climb it together. This was analogous to a run of the mill athlete (Colin) going running with Sebastian Coe (a British Olympic Gold Medal winner). Despite Bill's evident ability ( taking excursions to the 'Burner' and doing everything free that had been done at the time) I was so impressed with his maturity, emotional poise and containment. He gently goaded me about the slowness of my aid climbing, and did say he would climb with me again so long as it wasn't an aid climb.
I recently telephoned Bill (2005) and spoke with him for the first time since we climbed together. Bill said to look him up if I ever came to California again. Unfortunately I now do not have his contact details and I intend to contact him when I come to Yosemite in Fall of 2011. So If you read this Bill or someone who could forward his e-mail address I would very much appreciate it.
My climb with Bill will remain a lasting and cherished memory. I would like nothing better than to go climbing with him again and reconnect to the very best in American climbing and its people.
Yours gratefully
Colin Rowe
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Jun 27, 2010 - 01:23pm PT
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Great story, Colin!
Better still to get Bill to join in at some point!!!
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mike a.
Sport climber
ca
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Aug 23, 2012 - 09:07am PT
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morning, very cool pix, thanks for sharing , yes at one time b.price was on top of the climbing world, bill is the one who got me in to climbing, back in grade school when we were kidz, he lived down the block from me in menlo park, and was in my second and forth grade class. in high school we were always in the valley living in camp 4, and bill was in on the airplane crash thing as well, i talked to him last month to see if some time this summer if he wanted to hook up and climb, and i could show him some of the new cool stuff at shuteye, and he sounded psyched on checking it on, and he was psyched on showing me some cool new stuff at the donner area, larry land. he was one of the greatest on the couch climbers i ever saw, and was great at bouldering too. when i see his pix and his name on this form, it pumps me up to go climbing, thanks again for the cool pix of bill price, one of the greatest climbers most never heard of. :-), cheers happy climbing mike a.
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doughnutnational
Gym climber
its nice here in the spring
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 23, 2012 - 09:21am PT
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Thanks for shairng Mike and make sure to post photos when you climb with Bill. 20,000 replies to a political thread and 56 to a thread about a Yosemite legend on a climbing forum, what a shame. And Eric Peterson if your out there I know you have pictures of Bill, Augie, Double D .., get em scanned and post em up, please!
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this just in
climber
north fork
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Aug 23, 2012 - 09:39am PT
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Yeah Kevin, 20000 low quality posts from five posters vs 57 high quality from some talented climbers. Let's rope up soon, call me.
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Chief
climber
The NW edge of The Hudson Bay
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Aug 23, 2012 - 03:21pm PT
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Bump for Bill!
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Mark Hudon
Trad climber
Hood River, OR
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Aug 23, 2012 - 05:56pm PT
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I've always said that the three most talented climbers I ever met were Ron Kauk, Peter Mayfield and Bill Price. All three were really nice guys as well.
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Alexey
climber
San Jose, CA
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May 13, 2013 - 06:53pm PT
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Was climbing yesterday at Chapel wall, looked up and saw this climb.
Checked the book - found that it is Bill Price's Cosmic Debris.
Make the search who is Bill Price - and found this great tread.
Bump for climbing
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martygarrison
Trad climber
Washington DC
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May 26, 2015 - 08:01pm PT
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From Mountain Project
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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May 26, 2015 - 09:08pm PT
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Man, I wish we had more threads like this going on. Awesome history, photos, and stories. This is what climbing and this website should be all about.
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dhayan
climber
los angeles, ca
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May 27, 2015 - 07:32am PT
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^^^ My thoughts exactly - I'm amazed at how many awesome classic climbing threads there are floating around on supertopo, but I'd never see them unless they are on the first page.
Bump!
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hashbro
Trad climber
Mental Physics........
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May 27, 2015 - 08:43am PT
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I clearly remember when teenagers Bill (Dave, Kurt and Augie) arrived in the Valley from the Santa Clara Valley in 78 and proceeded to blow things apart as they hangdogged (and redpointed) many of the testpieces (Butterballs, Fish Crack, Phoenix, etc, etc, etc) that thwarted the rest of us.
Those boys were unaffected by existing paradigms, and refused to believe they couldn’t do the hardest routes of the time.
The low-key Bill was the king of cool, and he’s probably still climbing hard today.
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Rollover
climber
Gross Vegas
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May 30, 2015 - 07:33am PT
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I blame histrionics disorder for forcing my idle brain to
connect the dots between Mike's name and his face.
Thanks Double D!
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hobo_dan
Social climber
Minnesota
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May 30, 2015 - 12:41pm PT
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total style!
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Rob Roy Ramey
Trad climber
Colorado
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Bill and I had recently retreated from Mammoth Terraces where we spent several days pinned down in a snowstorm. Being a true innovator, Bill had hauled along his massive 8-track tape boom box for fixing pitches. Sadly though, it hopelessly consumed our favorite Emerson, Lake, and Palmer tape, and then, someone stole it out of his car in El Cap Meadow!
The telescope had been repurposed from my early interest in astronomy to scouting routes in Yosemite. It lived on the back seat of my '65 Mustang while not is use. At the moment I snapped the photo, Mike Boris was explaining to the rest of us, "Who needs a topo when you can see the placement."
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mike a.
Sport climber
ca
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Climbed with Bill Price last Wednesday at Pat&Jack Pinnacle had a super fun day 😊 happy climbing Mike A.
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Killer K
Boulder climber
Sacramento, CA
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Bill has been putting up new routes at the emeralds as well as Auburn quarry the past few years. I have only spoken with him via MP and read about his accomplishments and he seems like a decent dude.
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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One of my heroes, though I never met him. His ascent of The Phoenix is legendary.
BAd
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Climbed with him and Angie a bit in the very early 80's. On one trip to Woodfords we took turns holding and rocking infant Willie. Would be interested in seeing those folks again. Bill, if your tuned in give me a shout. Got lots of quality new routes to do a little bit further east.
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James
climber
My twin brother's laundry room
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May 30, 2017 - 01:11pm PT
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Anybody have Bill Price's contact information?
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Rockies Obscure
Trad climber
rockiesobscure.com....Canada
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May 30, 2017 - 02:10pm PT
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^^ Hi, can you ask Bill if he is the same Bill Price that I took a photo of in 1995 doing the 5th ascent of Sea of Vapors waterfall climb up here in Canada!?
Picture was in the local Banff newspaper later that week!
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
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May 30, 2017 - 09:11pm PT
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Good ol Bill. I climbed Price is Light in 2001. No idea of current status. Think Andy K. wasup there last..
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