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MikeL

climber
Topic Author's Original Post - Jul 25, 2007 - 01:33pm PT
Occasionally, it gets a little hot in here, don't you think?

When people start a thread of stories, the thing to do, it seems, is to either to post one or to read them and say "good story" or "not good story." (Everyone gets a vote.) None of us seem to be interested in critiquing the stories as narratives.

Some other threads are more about what is or isn't, what could be, what should be, etc. These are conversations more than stories. People in conversations are supposed to make contributions.

There are two kinds of conversations: discussions and dialogues. Discussions are characterized as monologues, as if throwing something over a wall to another person. There is no give-and-take in discussions. Dialogues are different; they are characterized by adding to or taking away from what another says so that in the end, what is said is what neither said alone. In dialogue, a conversation passes *through* a person and that person makes a contribution to the conversation. Conversations are, at their heart, learning.

What, then, is a contribution to conversations that are not meant to be simple storytelling? THe following are all important intellectual skills, and skills of the heart. [1]


(i) Consciously raise the following questions:
What do we know?
How do we know?
Why do we accept or believe?
What is the evidence for?
It's always good to start with questions, not assessments or recommendations.

(ii) Probe for assumptions behind lines of reasoning.

(iii) Be aware of gaps in data in an issue or situation.

(iv) Recognize when important decisions get made, they imply tradeoffs, regret and suffering for someone somewhere.

(v) Recognize that ambiguity and uncertainty are everywhere.

(vi) Recognize that knowledge is a community language game; learn the language.

(vii) The quality of an articulation is critical. Practice, even when your position is incompletely developed. "You won't know what you mean until you see what you say."

(viii) Recognize that any advocacy will generate controversy and disagreement with others, but controversy can generate interest and learning.

(ix) Meditate on your own views and reasoning process. You need to be self-reflective. Become an observer / witness of yourself.

(x) Come with questions, and you will leave with some answers. If you have no questions, then there will be no answers for you.

(xi) No one's intellectual and emotional capabilities are immutable. People can reach beyond their grasp.

(xii) Exercise a willingness to learn what it means to be human, what compassion is, and recognize the forces that shape people’s lives.

(xiii) Learn how to ask and consider powerful moral questions.


My departed father added one thing to this list: "Make sure your brain is loaded before you go shooting off your mouth."


What do you think?



[1] (i) through (xiii) are taken from: Ken Bain, "What the Best College Teachers Do." 2004. Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press.
Ouch!

climber
Jul 25, 2007 - 01:37pm PT
Hard to practice much of that stuff since a thread can only go about 20 posts before a fight breaks out. LOL!
Russ Walling

Social climber
Out on the sand.... man.....
Jul 25, 2007 - 01:43pm PT
What do you think?

I think you think about this too much.

Re fights:

Bullshiiit OUCH!!! Goddammit I'm tired of your posts! I pray to Satan that I die before I have to read another one of your comments and you are totally wrong on this one too. 20 posts for a fight!!!!??? AAAARRGGHHHH!!!!!! Give me a knife!!!!!
L

climber
Alaska once upon a time
Jul 25, 2007 - 01:48pm PT
(v) Recognize that ambiguity and uncertainty are everywhere.


I think Ouch! is being a bit uncertain here, and Russ, definitely ambiguous! (Or is it the other way around?)
426

Sport climber
Buzzard Point, TN
Jul 25, 2007 - 01:57pm PT
sheezus, how 'bout just handing out a synopsis, Prof...
Ouch!

climber
Jul 25, 2007 - 01:58pm PT
"Bullshiiit OUCH!!! Goddammit I'm tired of your posts! I pray to Satan that I die before I have to read another one of your comments and you are totally wrong on this one too. 20 posts for a fight!!!!??? AAAARRGGHHHH!!!!!! Give me a knife!!!!!"

L, Russ is definitely engaging in a dialogue. Sort of like Plato, couched in Locker terminology.
Donny... the OHHH!- Riginal

Sport climber
Lynda Carter's sock drawer
Jul 25, 2007 - 02:02pm PT
Don't forget about the visual contribution. Often these can convey far more meaning than finely crafted prose. I outta know.


L

climber
Alaska once upon a time
Jul 25, 2007 - 02:04pm PT
vi) Recognize that knowledge is a community language game; learn the language.


God#@%!&# Ouch! You're F&X#@X right! Thanks for the F&%#X@% interpretation.
Ouch!

climber
Jul 25, 2007 - 02:07pm PT
Looks like the cussword scrambler is working again.
L

climber
Alaska once upon a time
Jul 25, 2007 - 02:12pm PT
(ii) Probe for assumptions behind lines of reasoning.


Ouch! Are you assuming I don't scramble my own cusswords?
dirtineye

Trad climber
the south
Jul 25, 2007 - 02:20pm PT
How can anyone post a thread like this as anything but a troll???

In the immortal words of John Macenroe,

You cannot be serious.

Remember, it's a CLIMBING FORUM on the INTERNET, which is a recipe for almost anything, and impossible to regulate without an iron hand.

In the also immortal words of Charlie Brown,

Good Grief.




BUT, DMT = LEB, the one great unifying truth of the universe.
Ouch!

climber
Jul 25, 2007 - 02:25pm PT
"(vi) Recognize that knowledge is a community language game; learn the language"

L, you got language. LOL!
dirtbag

climber
Jul 25, 2007 - 02:27pm PT
F*#k you Russ. And you too, Ouch!
Russ Walling

Social climber
Out on the sand.... man.....
Jul 25, 2007 - 02:29pm PT
All'yall..... OUT BACK, RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!


math edit: DMT - LEB = JayBro + weschrist X .9% Jello @ .86L
Russ Walling

Social climber
Out on the sand.... man.....
Jul 25, 2007 - 02:36pm PT
I'm having some trouble getting my sourdough starter just right. I think it might be temperature variances that are keeping it from thriving. Does anyone have any tips? And the vinegar in the pickles is not real clear anymore. Is this a natural change or should I be doing something different, or trying a different brand of vinegar. And those lovely birds on the porch are now fully feathered and ready to leave the nest. Has anyone ever tried dog manure on their crooknecked squash instead of bat guano? Speaking of bats, have you ever built a bat house?
L

climber
Alaska once upon a time
Jul 25, 2007 - 02:44pm PT
(vii) The quality of an articulation is critical. Practice, even when your position is incompletely developed. "You won't know what you mean until you see what you say."


Heeeeere kitty, kitty, kitty! Want some virtual milk...toast? Heeeeere kitty, kitty!

Beatrix Kiddo

Mountain climber
Denver
Jul 25, 2007 - 02:45pm PT
Most of my online responses consist of talking about climbing, poop, sex, drinking, nudity and bud.

What more do we need to talk about?
Ouch!

climber
Jul 25, 2007 - 02:48pm PT
"F*#k you Russ. And you too, Ouch!"

See! This is the kind off stuff that we should be able to delete from our personal threads so they are not consumed by sh#t slinging cuss words. I vote for censorship. I get to pick who gets whacked.
Russ Walling

Social climber
Out on the sand.... man.....
Jul 25, 2007 - 02:51pm PT
just gently pulling your chain Sybill.... I see how you do it though... I started typing and all those voices in my head wanted to be heard.... the baker, the gardener, the nature buff..... the flow just happens....

It would be nice if you kept your post just as it is, or else my post will not make much sense (nttiawwt)

atchafalaya

climber
California
Jul 25, 2007 - 02:52pm PT
"Most of my online responses consist of talking about climbing, poop, sex, drinking, nudity and bud."

I just wanted to personally say thanks for your contribution.
Wade Icey

Big Wall climber
Indian Caves, CA
Jul 25, 2007 - 02:54pm PT
"Do you think I would have made a good schizophrenic?"

Just a suggestion; The use of present tense makes writing much more immediate.

"Do you think I make a good schizophrenic?"

Do you think?
Russ Walling

Social climber
Out on the sand.... man.....
Jul 25, 2007 - 02:54pm PT
ummmm Ouch..... this one is not your thread, but the OP could pass power on to you and hand over the wackamole club..... the foul mouth on that L chick is really something......
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Jul 25, 2007 - 02:55pm PT
"I'm having some trouble getting my sourdough starter just right. I think it might be temperature variances that are keeping it from thriving. Does anyone have any tips? And the vinegar in the pickles is not real clear anymore. Is this a natural change or should I be doing something different, or trying a different brand of vinegar. And those lovely birds on the porch are now fully feathered and ready to leave the nest. Has anyone ever tried dog manure on their crooknecked squash instead of bat guano? Speaking of bats, have you ever built a bat house?"

A fine bit of stream of nonconsciousness poetry from Russ, which he shouldn't be allowed to disappear. Though there should have been some skwirrls in there somewhere, perhaps.
Patrick Sawyer

climber
Originally California now Ireland
Jul 25, 2007 - 02:56pm PT
come on, I actually think that MikeL was trying to make an important point and you all go shooting...



... what's that you all say?...

...okay, I'll shut up.
Roger Breedlove

climber
Cleveland Heights, Ohio
Jul 25, 2007 - 02:58pm PT
< >
Crimpergirl

Social climber
St. Looney
Jul 25, 2007 - 03:01pm PT
MAYBE A DINGO ATE YUR BABY!!!!!
Crimpergirl

Social climber
St. Looney
Jul 25, 2007 - 03:02pm PT
Oh, and since it is relevant to this thread, I just wanted to add that I'm going to Yosemite! Yay me.
Hootervillian

climber
the Hooterville World-Guardian
Jul 25, 2007 - 03:04pm PT
shouldn't the title be something like-

"Making an Intellectual Conversation of Threads"

because the thesis doesn't appear attempt define Contribution. which, in this context, occurs everytime someones clicks the 'Post this Reply' button, for better or worse.


is this gonna be on the test?

Beatrix Kiddo

Mountain climber
Denver
Jul 25, 2007 - 03:06pm PT
Hey crimporama. . .me too! Flying out tomorrow afternoon.

One of these days I have to tell you a very funny bird story that I'm sure you would appreciate.

poop
dirtineye

Trad climber
the south
Jul 25, 2007 - 03:15pm PT
Well Russ, since you asked, both dog sh#t and bat guano on crookneck squash tastes like, well, sh#t. There, I said it.

I really think you could have figured this out for yourself though.

In the future, please do not hijack serious threads, OK????


LEB, yes, this year seems to be a great one for productivity in the garden. I have no idea why or how, cause we had a drought down south at the first part of the summer.

A warning on the heirloom cherry tomato, "Large Red Cherry"-- this plant is the godzilla of tomato plants. It grows three times as fast as any other I have seen, and soon will be knocking on the door demanding water and fertilizer. I swear if you stretched it out straight it woudl be tewnty feet, and is not even close to slowing down, in fact, it seems to be picking up steam. If I ever plant them again, it will be one plant only, not three. They are covered in fruit, which is good if you like cherry tomatos, but I have decided that they don't taste all that good, DOH!

The Ace heirloom tomato is also not so great. Oh well.

BUT, the Volkov and the German Red Strawberry varieties are very good, and are worth doing again.

The Cowhorn okra is also very good, tastes better I think than Clemson Spineless, and is more prolific as well.

Now if I only had a way to defeat the evil squash borer.
L

climber
Alaska once upon a time
Jul 25, 2007 - 03:19pm PT
Ruuuuuuuuuuss...what the...???? I was just trying to immitate you, my fearless poo-talker!

Whackamole???

Meeeee???? Pa-leeeezeee!
Russ Walling

Social climber
Out on the sand.... man.....
Jul 25, 2007 - 03:21pm PT
potty mouth...... they "all" try to blame me.....

Jaybro

Social climber
The West
Jul 25, 2007 - 03:27pm PT
"Do you think I would have made a good schizophrenic?"

" just gently pulling your chain Sybill"

When these two (?) do sit down for a conversation, I want to be in the room.


The motherf*&**^*&^*^&ing voices tell me there is only one l in sybil
Ouch!

climber
Jul 25, 2007 - 03:30pm PT
"ummmm Ouch..... this one is not your thread, but the OP could pass power on to you and hand over the wackamole club..... the foul mouth on that L chick is really something......"

Sure is. L reminds me of that old saying, "Cuss like a preacher's daughter".

Might be time to whip out the Lifebuoy soap and lather up that cuss hole.
Wade Icey

Big Wall climber
Indian Caves, CA
Jul 25, 2007 - 03:48pm PT
Interesting Russ. a well thought out reply..There was a Robin in my yard this morning. I thought I heard windchimes but it turned out to be a scrub jay with its head stuck in an OE can. However I'd be curious on your take on this one, condensed for clarity and supertopoliticalcorrectnessness from the original "contribution." Is the part about schizophrenia clear? Or should I google up a more thorough report, print in triplicate and snail mail to the sushifest'08 glengardner participants?

...Although for schizophrenia, there is also overwhelming evidence that Collard greens have reduced function, or be “inhibited” in schizophrenia. Much of the support for this theory comes from the reaction many individuals have to drugs that block January through April back to prehistoric times, The oldest members of the cabbage family found that "The psychosis produced by these drugs is indistinguishable from ...large leaves and stalks and a mild flavor; broad-leaved forms like collards; and others with curled leaves. The Romans may have taken the coles to Britain and France or the Celts may have introduced them to these countries. They reached into the British Isles in the 4th century B.C.The researchers argue, ... .Collard greens date back to prehistoric times, ...The ancient Greeks grew kale and collards, although they made no distinction between them. Well before the Christian era, the Romans grew several kinds including those with large leaves and stalks and a mild flavor; broad-leaved forms like collards; and others with curled leaves. The Romans may have taken the coles to Britain and France or the Celts may have introduced them to these countries. They reached into the British Isles in the 4th century B.C.The researchers concluded: "Finally, based on this developmentally regulated psychosis/epilepsy-related thalamocortical circuitry, it is proposed that antiepileptic drugs that promote GABAergic mechanisms may decrease the probability of episodic psychosis from any cause."The connection o... shown in some people to decrease irritability, positive symptoms, and anxiety or aggressive behaviors. Lamotrigine (Lamictal), is an anticonvulsant medication that acts on ... coping with a brain disorder in a close relative neglect their own health. .. the world. When anyone gets sick with any serious disorder...the need to seek treatment.Although they are available year-round they are at their best from January through April...countries. They reached into the British Isles in the 4th century B.C.We hope that the pointers presented here will help families understand that feelings of loss,... Well before the Christian era,...Denial...d with the diagnosis of schizophrenia in a loved one, go through a phase of denial. This makes it very difficult for other members of the family to cope. Any efforts the...To come to terms with feelings of shame, it is necessary to assess how you felt about mental illness .... Remember that 30 years ago people were ashamed if a relative developed cancer. It was spoken of in whispers because it frightened and horrified people. Today no one would dream ..this will be true about schizophrenia.You may feel t..... support... with curled leaves. ...speak freely about your experiences and fears.In many countries, schizophrenia...There are also chat sites on the world-wide web.Collard .. through April...Guilt Whenever anyone gets any illness, ..vailable year-round they are at their best from January through April.Collard greens date back to prehistoric times, and are one of the oldest members of the cabbage family. The ancient Greeks grew kale and collards, although they made no distinction ...problems, you will realize that you are not to blame. More and more research indicates that schizophrenia is a biological brain disease with an as yet unknown cause.... to value your achievements because they do not want to upset the person who is ill. Support from close friends should enable you to rebuild your sense of self-esteem and your ability to be proud of your own achievements. Parents should not neglect their children who are well.AngerCollard greens are vegetables that are members of the cabbage family, but are also close relatives to kale. Although they are available year-round they are at their best from January through April...the cabbage family. The ancient Greeks ..Strong emotions are natural when your suspicions are confirmed by a diagnosis of a brain disorder. Realize that anger can be destructive to other members of the family as well as to yourself. Your relative will also sense a more stressful environment.
When anger or grief ... an old punching bag from a boxing gymnasium and hung it in his garage..go to the squash court and play at times of anxiety. Some relatives simply go out for a long walk or run. Everyone should experience the release of tears, the body's own way of reducing tension.None of us is perfect.. Many things that are said in anger are bitterly regretted afterwards. Try to maintain some control.Acceptance Collard greens are vegetables that are members of the cabbage family, but are also close relatives to kale. Although they are available year-round they are at their best from January through April.Coming to terms with a brain disorder means... hope for the future.When this is done... stem from unrealistic objectives.Happineeens are vegetables that are members of the cabbage family, but are also close relatives to kale. Although they are available year-round they are at their best from January through April...A sense of humour has helped.., each family member must have recreational time free from worry...forms like collards; and others with curled leaves. The Romans may have taken the coles to Britain and France or the Celts may have introduced them to these countries. They reached into the British Isles in the 4th century B.C.Sometimes a care giver tries to compensate for what she/he has lost in his relative by becoming over protective. Personal pain is assuaged by the total management of the relative's life. The person, often the mother, becomes dependent on the caring role, in some cases treating an adult son or daughter like a child. This is not only destructive to the care giver, it is also stressful to the person with schizophrenia. The motto should be "Moderation in Caring."...1 in 100. Your knowledge will arm you against any ignorance you meet. You will feel satisfaction in being able to impart the knowledge you have learned....France or the Celts may have introduced them to these countries. They reached into the British Isles in the 4th century B.C Making Adjustments Collard greens are vegetables that are members of the cabbage family, but are also .. Quiet reassurances of love and respect are needed between all members of the family. in this case, changing tense, changes the connotation and veracity of the statement.Drug-Induced Psychosis ... psychosis based on the glutamate hypothesis.
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I'm going to make soup for dinner, anybody here try whittling? WTF? ANTS!



Ouch!

climber
Jul 25, 2007 - 03:51pm PT
Wade Icey, how come you wanna muck up such a nice thread?
Jaybro

Social climber
The West
Jul 25, 2007 - 03:52pm PT
"The more you learn about schizophrenia the more you will realize that you are far from being alone."
-Another keeper!

"Madness is all in the mind," Madness.
Wade Icey

Big Wall climber
Indian Caves, CA
Jul 25, 2007 - 04:05pm PT
Wade Icey, how come you wanna muck up such a nice thread?..

A) Avoiding the real work of the day.
B) Was inspired by Russ? he's always been a role model. I Blame him.
C) You tryin' to censor me Ouch?
D) Genuinely interested in intellectual discourse.
E) I'm just mad 'coz my IGNORE button isn't working.
F) some or all or none of the above.
Russ Walling

Social climber
Out on the sand.... man.....
Jul 25, 2007 - 04:12pm PT
hahahaha! nice work Wade! I read the entire post and besides being slightly repetitive, there is a typo in paragraph 31.

This one made the most sense:

Lamotrigine (Lamictal), is interesting with a brain. This pamphlet is interesting because it may provide neglect they fail to be been shown health. These medication of psychotic, usually Clozaril.oo often families around that the world. They are so emotion of psychosis to be been shown to decrease irritability, positive symptoms, and anxiety or aggressive beneficial in a close relative beneficial in some pathways for treating with a brain disorder in a close relative behaviors. Lamotrigine (Lamictal
L

climber
Alaska once upon a time
Jul 25, 2007 - 04:49pm PT
Might be time to whip out the Lifebuoy soap and lather up that cuss hole.


We used Dial at our house. A lot of it, too.

Never heard the "preacher's daughter" epitaph...we took sailor lessons there in Missouri...
Russ Walling

Social climber
Out on the sand.... man.....
Jul 25, 2007 - 06:00pm PT
wade: There was a Robin in my yard this morning. I thought I heard windchimes but it turned out to be a scrub jay with its head stuck in an OE can.


This exact thing was happening this morning in my yard too, but not to me, though it was happening to me.
Wade Icey

Big Wall climber
Indian Caves, CA
Jul 25, 2007 - 06:24pm PT
Russ:This exact thing was happening this morning in my yard too, but not to me, though it was happening to me.

Well. that's a relief. I thought it was just us. And by us I mean we, not you. Makes perfect sense. Ever try soup? Speaking of knife fights, My uncle used to whittle guiness hen decoys with a custom shank he got in the penn. Should we start a seperate thread for recipes?
Russ Walling

Social climber
Out on the sand.... man.....
Jul 25, 2007 - 06:29pm PT
I love Guiness Hens! The have that lovely dark body and creamy head. There is no way that I'll be able love them as much as I love the smell of rain on a freshly painted porch though. Anyone here have great recipe for porch paint. Last time I painted the porch I added a handful of sand and it made it nice and grippy for me while I am outside smelling the rain. Speaking of rain, I found a wonderful rain coat in the barn that was worn by my great great uncle. I think they called them slickers back in the day.... and this brings me back to the porch which would have been much "slicker" without the sand added to the paint. See... I'm not nuts, as it all make sense.
MikeL

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 25, 2007 - 06:33pm PT
Ok.


My mother taught me that there are three kinds of people. One, there are people who talk about other people and how fascinating those other people are. These, she said, were the smallest of people. Two, there are those people who talk about events and how important they are. The grandest of people, she said, talk about ideas. I thought that those were good distinctions.

When I buy my goods at the grocery store, I look at all those periodicals on the racks and see what kind of people the masses are.


I'd delete the thread, but it seems like you guys are having a good time with it.

Cheers.
L

climber
Alaska once upon a time
Jul 25, 2007 - 06:54pm PT
MikeL--Awesome thread!!! Why would you want to delete it? Just look at all the contributions you received...:-)
Ouch!

climber
Jul 25, 2007 - 06:55pm PT
"Who the FUK got PLAYDO on my Couch???..."

Gotta be Woody....maybe his tights split on him.
nita

climber
chico ca
Jul 25, 2007 - 07:02pm PT
Hey Dirt, I know what Okra looks like, but how in the hell do you cook that stuff?
Ouch!

climber
Jul 25, 2007 - 07:05pm PT
Nita, roll it in cornmeal and fry it is best or put it in soup or stew.
caughtinside

Social climber
Davis, CA
Jul 25, 2007 - 07:08pm PT
Wow Mike! My mom told me there were three kinds of people too, those who can count, and those who can't.

poop.
nita

climber
chico ca
Jul 25, 2007 - 07:15pm PT
Ouch, do I slice it first? What does it taste like?



edit: thanks, Ouch & Locker!
Hootervillian

climber
the Hooterville World-Guardian
Jul 25, 2007 - 07:17pm PT
I look at all those periodicals on the racks and see what kind of people the masses are......


you guys



sounds like type One? but maybe i didn't understand the question.

is this gonna be on the test also?
Ouch!

climber
Jul 25, 2007 - 07:33pm PT
Nita, you can either slice it crossways or fry it whole. wet it, roll it in cracker crumbs, dip it in beaten egg with a little cold water, roll it in cornmeal and fry in canola oil. It is Guuuud! Course, maybe it's an acquired taste for all but us possum eaters.


Locker style edit.............














































I love it fried in bacon grease.
WBraun

climber
Jul 25, 2007 - 08:42pm PT
Well I must admit after reading this whole thread I was laughing my ass off so hard.

Now Russ and Ouch had some funny exchanges, and prize was Russ's LEB lampoon, brilliant.

Fuking hilarious thread,

Sorry MikeL, but on this forum, if you try too hard to enter the front door you'll end up meeting this kind of thread.

Try to blindside em next time and they'll never know what hit em until it's too late.

You'll have a much better chance at what you're seeking then ..... maybe.
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Jul 25, 2007 - 09:10pm PT
This thread is an example of what I call interim discourse at the Taco. This often happens when there's not a lot of climbing chitty chatter up on the board and we've also come down from the heady buzz of a couple protracted flamy/introspective threads (brawls). We're many of us well exercised at this juncture; we need a break in the action, so we appropriate a thread and we slide into a jovial, well lubed group quack and it has a tangy transpersonal feel, as though the whole of it is the light orchestration of a single troll.

I'm going back for extra punch and maybe some more dip & carrot sticks. Anybody need anything?

Hootervillian

climber
the Hooterville World-Guardian
Jul 25, 2007 - 09:20pm PT
as long as your up... a dictionary, a five peice gizzard from London&Sons, a plastic fork, and another Caipirinha.

and could somebody take out my trash, the diapers have been in there since friday.
Ouch!

climber
Jul 25, 2007 - 09:31pm PT
SS, have Werner put up a Boyfriend Wanted notice for you on the Camp 4 bulletin board.
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Jul 25, 2007 - 09:38pm PT
"eternal bam nation"

Which is?
Standing Strong

Trad climber
eternal bam nation
Jul 25, 2007 - 09:40pm PT
bam everyone!
Standing Strong

Trad climber
eternal bam nation
Jul 25, 2007 - 09:41pm PT
o, i live in the united states
Standing Strong

Trad climber
eternal bam nation
Jul 25, 2007 - 10:06pm PT
i don't need a note on the c4 board... in a couple of hours i'm puttin' on my john deere cap and goin' out with some friends. cuz it's wednesday, which means tomorrow is thursday, and the next day is friday, which means it's the weekend already!!!
nita

climber
chico ca
Jul 25, 2007 - 11:03pm PT
A.C, When I was little, I loved making flour tortillas by hand with all my Tias....Now..... NO Way.. toooo Perezosa!







edit: bacon grease.....grosero......................

Edit: Around here , it's the Hmong who eat and grow okra.
john hansen

climber
Jul 25, 2007 - 11:31pm PT
I believe that Russ has now won two writing contest's.

The "Write like John Long" thread.

And now a perfect LEB impersonation.

Gary

climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jul 26, 2007 - 12:09am PT
nita, whatever you do, DON'T fry the okra. It turns into snot in the skillet. It's all right in soup.

Gawd, I wish I could delete this thread.
Jaybro

Social climber
The West
Jul 26, 2007 - 08:45am PT
so it's almost xmas!
426

Sport climber
Buzzard Point, TN
Jul 26, 2007 - 08:45am PT
...then I'm almost 40...

Hey, wait a minute...
Jaybro

Social climber
The West
Jul 26, 2007 - 09:09am PT
's cool 40 is the new ... what was the question?

Strong stand on the meadows, John Deere@ is so De Kalb, a vintage King ropes™ is where ya wanna be.
Patrick Sawyer

climber
Originally California now Ireland
Jul 26, 2007 - 10:31am PT
Gary, not if you fry it very quickly, but yeah okra in soups is real nice.
L

climber
Alaska once upon a time
Jul 26, 2007 - 06:41pm PT
Nita--Don't fry, boil, nuke, bar-b-que, saute, grill, grow or buy okra!!!

I'm sorry Ouch!--and I am from 'possum eatin' country--but okra has the consistancy of furry snot and the flavor of grasshopper guts no matter what you do to it! (Except maybe pickling it...then it's not so much furry snot as furry boogers.)

I almost choked to death on boiled okra as a child and have made it my mission in life to save the unsuspecting from that most evil of demon vegetables...

Seriously Nita--you just don't want to even go there!
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Jul 26, 2007 - 06:50pm PT
It sounds like okra is the zucchini of the south - anyone can grow it, everyone gives it away, no one actually eats it except when heavily disguised by processing and other ingredients.

Now, what were we talking about again?
Ouch!

climber
Jul 26, 2007 - 08:41pm PT
Okra properly fried in corn meal is not the least bit slimy. It is not the fault of the vegetable if the cook ain't up to snuff.

L, you must have got hold of some bad possum meat to make you so mad at poor okra.
Crimpergirl

Social climber
St. Looney
Jul 26, 2007 - 09:40pm PT
Fried Okra is NECTAR! Wow, it's been a long time since I've had some of that delicious stuff. Mmmmmmm
nita

climber
chico ca
Jul 26, 2007 - 09:51pm PT
Ok, what branch cousin should I trust... L or Crimpergirl?

Personally, I think brussel sprouts suck!





edit: Thanks Dirt!
Crimpergirl

Social climber
St. Looney
Jul 26, 2007 - 09:53pm PT
Nita - I am with you on the brussel sprouts - nothing can make those foul little balls taste, smell or look good. bleck.
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Jul 26, 2007 - 10:02pm PT
You mean rotted monkey heads, don't you?

Edit: More or less purloined from Calvin & Hobbes - though it probably wasn't their invention.
Crimpergirl

Social climber
St. Looney
Jul 26, 2007 - 10:25pm PT
bwahahahahaaaa rotted monkey heads... hahahahahaaa
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Jul 26, 2007 - 10:26pm PT
hey now, this is gettin too darn' serious.
polite conversation it ain't.
but that's taco tyme fer ya'll.
dirtineye

Trad climber
the south
Jul 26, 2007 - 11:00pm PT
OMG, I got here just in time!

Okra is great fried, but it's REAL beauty is in gumbo, stew or soup.

Boiled okra, however, is the work of the devil.
Standing Strong

Trad climber
eternal bam nation
Jul 27, 2007 - 02:16am PT
"holding hands saves lives and we're in this one together whether the roof is on fire....."
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Nov 27, 2009 - 04:21am PT
hey there say, rokjox...

wow--just what i always wanted to see:

an okra and brussel sprouts thread! ... ;) :)
(love both veggies, by the way)

say---this is a supertopo-super thread here...
has so much going for it:

MikeL gave a great foundation...
L caught on how to use the "system list"
Ouch flowed with the flow...
had a mini-thread-hijack, confessed-off by leb/lois...
dirtineye, appeared with garden expertise...
russ got his writer's awards, ;)
(one that nearly got smothered in okra):
I believe that Russ has now won two writing contest's.

and tarbuster had some great assessments on the whole thing...

and thus:
i must confess... what a wonderful way to end thanksgiving day:
i am VERY thankful to have found and settled, into ol' supertopo...


three cheers to ol' chris...

and god bless you all for keeping this "quilt" going strong...
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Nov 27, 2009 - 04:24am PT
hey there say... and rokjox found and revived it...

three cheers...
:)
Tobia

Social climber
GA
Nov 27, 2009 - 10:26am PT
Okra~ nothing better, anyway you cook it; especially in Seafood Gumbo! They used to say that "Cotton was King" in the South but that is not true; Okra rules!
Jingy

Social climber
Flatland, Ca
Nov 27, 2009 - 01:47pm PT
math edit: DMT - LEB = JayBro + weschrist X .9% Jello @ .86L




bwahahaha!!!
nature

climber
Tuscon Again! India! India! Hawaii! LA?!?!
Dec 16, 2010 - 12:08pm PT
porch paint bump
Branscomb

Trad climber
Lander, WY
Dec 16, 2010 - 01:04pm PT
Let chaos reign...it's the beginning of creation.
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Dec 16, 2010 - 11:09pm PT

Mr. Tarbussier

I want a beer!
corniss chopper

Mountain climber
san jose, ca
Dec 17, 2010 - 12:15am PT
OK. Here's the day you could have climbed Niagara Falls.

Contribution of pics of limestone cliffs never seen by man.

http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/day-Niagara-Falls-ran-dry/ss/events/us/121610dryniagara#photoViewer=/ydownload/20101216/photos_net_web_yn/1292537554


Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Dec 17, 2010 - 12:33am PT
Very fun to follow through the first 80 or so posts of this fun thread:

A great "back n forth" from more civil days on ST.

# 1 post by my vote is:


math edit: DMT - LEB = JayBro + weschrist X .9% Jello @ .86L


gonamok

climber
aging malcontent
Dec 17, 2010 - 05:04am PT
Okra Winfrey sucks

I like black eyed peas (but not the band, they suck too)
scuffy b

climber
Three feet higher
Dec 17, 2010 - 01:24pm PT
here's a fine one from Ouch, speaking of bittersweet...
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Dec 17, 2010 - 01:58pm PT
thx Scruffy. Miss that guy.
hooblie

climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
Mar 24, 2015 - 04:23am PT
i got your b hangin' on a ump
Norwegian

Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
Mar 24, 2015 - 05:17am PT
hoo lie i lo e that
your key oard
is missing keys too.

compromised contribution.
L

climber
California dreamin' on the farside of the world..
Mar 24, 2015 - 06:22am PT
Just what I needed this fine sunny Tuesday morning...a skip down memory lane.

For Cousin Crimpie (should she ever check in here):

Brussels Sprouts slathered in olive oil, black pepper and Himalayan salt, roasted in the oven at 425 for 15-20 minutes....yuuuuuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmmmmmy!!!!!!

Okra slathered in tar and set aflame in a backyard oil barrel drum for 60 minutes....perfect-o mundo!



Thanks for bumping a stellar BITD thread, hooblie! :-)
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Mar 24, 2015 - 06:27am PT
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Mar 24, 2015 - 06:51am PT
Tarbuster, if it's no problem, would you bring me a latte, de-caf, two raw sugar packets, and a slab of that okra-carrot-raisin-nut loaf.

That is, if you go to STarbucks.

If you are going to Captain Boomer's instead, just a bottle of cranberry juice cuz their coffee sucks, and a couple of egg rolls, too.

Thx.

P.S.--I already contributed at the office.
Bushman

climber
The state of quantum flux
Apr 11, 2018 - 10:45am PT
Perhaps there should be only twenty forum threads totally encompassing and combining all of them;

Three threads for the Elven-kings under the sky
Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone
Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die
One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
One thread to rule them all
One thread to find them
One thread to bring them all
and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Supertopo where the Shadows lie
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Apr 11, 2018 - 11:49am PT
^^^Middle Earth Management will approve this message,
providing they can stop laughing out loud.
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