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Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Original Post - Jun 11, 2007 - 01:05pm PT
Michael Hjorth shot this photo last week, on an old 5.8 route with character -- Via Internationale at Kullen. Test the blocks, brush guano off the holds, don't even think about smearing on that green stuff ... blue sea below us. I was lovin' it. Dig the flower.

Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 11, 2007 - 01:13pm PT
Heh, it's me above that Alien. I was less worried about the hardware than the placement, behind the same block as our anchor and kinda hollow-sounding for my tastes. But you go with what you can get.
dank

Trad climber
the pitch above you!
Jun 11, 2007 - 02:01pm PT
GNARBALLS!!
M.Tea

Trad climber
Utah
Jun 11, 2007 - 02:34pm PT
that's no alien...but it IS a cool photo!
Nefarius

Big Wall climber
Fresno, CA
Jun 11, 2007 - 02:37pm PT
Cool Pic!

Looks a lot more like a Zero to me. And I'm not sure I'd call 4 feet of rope running it out, AC...
wootles

climber
Gamma Quadrant
Jun 11, 2007 - 04:00pm PT
You're lucky you didn't fall, that rope would have snapped like clothesline.
Apocalypsenow

Trad climber
Cali
Jun 11, 2007 - 06:28pm PT
I hope you were going to fall in the water, because I doubt any of that gear would have held.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 11, 2007 - 06:36pm PT
Like I say, I was lovin' it. ST'er (and top Danish climber) Michael was a most excellent host, meaning partly that he led all the weird pitches including one that flat punched me out. Anders Strange Nielsen was part of the fun too.

A few more photos thanks to Michael, I claim no credit for these (except the last).




Here's Michael, who thoughtfully packed a couple of most excellent warm beers for toasting our day from the clifftop.

wootles

climber
Gamma Quadrant
Jun 11, 2007 - 08:01pm PT
Tell him to chuck that rope and I'll see to it he gets a real one.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 12, 2007 - 01:45am PT
Really? I think Michael could use a new rope, that one was a bit furry.
Michael Hjorth

Trad climber
Copenhagen, Denmark
Jun 12, 2007 - 06:18pm PT
Thanks for posting, Chiloe. And thanks for sharing a very good trip to southern Sweden.

The trip was the fruit of a ST meeting - and did we talk ST in the car?! It was just a slight extension of the ST/C4 campfire.

Oh - he-he - thanks for the comments on my rope.

Same rope as in this picture. Me on Kullen as well, only 25 years previously. Whillans harness and EBs have been dumped, though.


Michael
Wild Bill

climber
Ca
Jun 12, 2007 - 06:21pm PT
Yow - maybe we can pass the hat so he can retire that 25 year old rope!
wootles

climber
Gamma Quadrant
Jun 12, 2007 - 06:33pm PT
Michael,

Email me a shipping address and I'll see what I can do.

There's a catch, however. If I'm successful in getting a rope to you I want you to post a photo of the old rope cut to pieces.

This is not a troll. Verify this with Chiloe.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 12, 2007 - 11:47pm PT
Ja, wootles is for real.

So we were climbing on a 25-year-old rope? Wild!
john hansen

climber
Jun 12, 2007 - 11:55pm PT
What type of rope is it and from when?
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 13, 2007 - 12:12am PT
Domingo

Mountain climber
Jun 13, 2007 - 12:50am PT
That yellow cam placement looks a bit sketch but my computer lighting could be off.

Kan du bestig mycket pa Sverige? Jag visste inte...
Michael Hjorth

Trad climber
Copenhagen, Denmark
Jun 13, 2007 - 08:39am PT
It's all very thoughtfull of you. But then again, leader should never fall (Chiloe certainly didn't) and who has ever heard of a rope breaking?

Even though, with all that green rock and guano I am happy I wasn't up there...

Michael


Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 17, 2007 - 03:58pm PT
Yesterday, elsewhere, some other 5.8, newer rope but it's only an 8.4. Anybody recognize this guy?

wootles

climber
Gamma Quadrant
Jun 17, 2007 - 08:06pm PT
Nice hat.

Is that Ennis Del Mar?
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 18, 2007 - 08:19am PT
Heh, wrong cowboy! I thought the hat would be a dead giveaway, but it was too out-of-context for the westerners perhaps.

Only a Nor'easterner would know the route, though. See the white flake overhead? We'll get out a photo TR of the other stuff soon.
wootles

climber
Gamma Quadrant
Jun 18, 2007 - 09:06am PT
The climber kind of looks like GOclimb but I can't be sure.

I'm sure I should know the route but I can't quite place it.
snakefoot

climber
cali
Jun 18, 2007 - 10:33am PT
I see tar opted for the single line, looks fun
wootles

climber
Gamma Quadrant
Jun 18, 2007 - 10:49am PT
Is it on Whitehorse?
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 18, 2007 - 11:04am PT
snakefoot, yeah, we used the doubles to get a couple pitches up CC (just one long rap down), then decided to "go light" on this route. Less clever than it sounded because we ended up needing both ropes to get down, again.

wootles, it's definitely on Whitehorse.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Jun 18, 2007 - 11:18am PT
Very cool thread. Out of curiousity, how many distinct seacliff areas have been developed in the NE these days?
wootles

climber
Gamma Quadrant
Jun 18, 2007 - 11:25am PT
Central area, maybe the Sleeping Beauty area?
L

climber
A small kayak on a very big ocean
Jun 18, 2007 - 12:04pm PT
Great photos, Chiloe. That first one of you and the flower had my palms sweating for sure--but it certainly looked like a great climb.

And that shot of Tarbaby is an all-time classic! (Does that guy not believe in aging or what???)
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 18, 2007 - 01:18pm PT
wootles:
Central area, maybe the Sleeping Beauty area?

Correct area, and remember the title of the thread! (I'd say more but that would spoil the fun, and yeah, you do know the route.)


L:
Great photos, Chiloe. That first one of you and the flower had my palms sweating for sure--but it certainly looked like a great climb.

Thanks, I thought Michael's photos caught the "atmosphere" of the place well.

And that shot of Tarbaby is an all-time classic! (Does that guy not believe in aging or what???)

One or two even better (IMHO) cowboy-hat photos from other North Conway classics yet to come; I'm waiting for Tar to get back online before posting. He shot a few too, don't know what they'll show. Tar and Lisa (who took first in her division, btw, at the tough Mt. Washington road race) ought to be kickin' back on Cape Cod today.
wootles

climber
Gamma Quadrant
Jun 18, 2007 - 02:31pm PT
OK I'm thinking Short Order and that crack is the upper part on Sleeping Beauty.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 18, 2007 - 03:41pm PT
Now yah got it, Short Order. Just what we needed at day's end, almost beer time. Sleeping Beauty is the cleaned diagonal line at top left in the photo.
GOclimb

Trad climber
Boston, MA
Jun 18, 2007 - 04:56pm PT
Wootles, you're right, it does kinda look like me! Never been in that section of the cliff, though, I don't think. Might haveta change that, though, looks cool.

Chiloe, drop me a line if you're still around. Been too long since we've roped up.

GO
GOclimb

Trad climber
Boston, MA
Jun 18, 2007 - 05:00pm PT
And here's a 5.8 I did recently. Allison seconding Bishop's Terrace. Really nice climbing. Sorry the photo doesn't do it justice.


GO
GOclimb

Trad climber
Boston, MA
Jun 18, 2007 - 05:05pm PT
And on the other side of the country, Crow Hill, the best local crag in Massachusetts contains this gem called Tarzan. In this pic, Jen rallies her strength before heading into the 20 foot crux. Tarzan is a steep and technical 5.8. Sustained, with jams, laybacks, stems, slopers, and crimps. If you can lead this climb, you can lead any trad 5.8 in Mass!


GO
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 18, 2007 - 06:05pm PT
Nice photos, Gabe. Sounds like Tarzan is another of those old-school 5.8s that had teeth.

Great weather like this and the bugs aren't too bad, I'll send you a note the next window I have.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 2, 2009 - 07:20pm PT
Lately, I've been seeing a lot of this mellow grade.

Tarbuster again two years later, this time stylin' across Ruper.

MisterE

Trad climber
One Step Beyond!
Jul 2, 2009 - 07:26pm PT
Swedish climbers are core!

Holy crap - I replace my rope every year.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Jul 2, 2009 - 07:44pm PT
Want to have serious fun? Spend a day climbing "only" 5.8 in the Gunks.
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Jul 2, 2009 - 07:49pm PT
Herb Laeger and Paul Clark designated this one as a 5.8 on the FA. Following an early ascent Eddie Joe pronounced this to be "the sandbag of the century."

Gilroy

Social climber
Boulderado
Jul 2, 2009 - 08:01pm PT
Good thing he is "fairly solid" on "5.8."
Off White

climber
Tenino, WA
Jul 2, 2009 - 08:19pm PT

My son & I drove home over Tioga Pass a month or so ago, after the Steve/Mimi nuptials, and just had to stop and climb something in the Meadows. Drawing on fuzzy memories, we scampered up 5.8 Truck n' Drive on Lembert 32 years after I'd last done it. I was glad to see upgraded bolts on the route, though those pesky stainless hangers are a lot harder to spot in the distance than old rusty Leepers.
Tork

climber
Yosemite
Jul 2, 2009 - 08:27pm PT
Here's a 5.8
Not for the 5.8 leader
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 2, 2009 - 08:42pm PT
donini:
Want to have serious fun? Spend a day climbing "only" 5.8 in the Gunks.

Oh yeah. Leading classic Gunks 5.8 on sight feels like a mini adventure. F'rinstance Airy Aria,
linking the first two pitches.

Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 2, 2009 - 08:47pm PT
Different climb, oddly similar perspective -- Main Line (5.8) in the Gunks.

Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 2, 2009 - 08:49pm PT
Also in the Near Trapps, Eastertime Too.

perswig

climber
Jul 2, 2009 - 09:56pm PT
What, Short Order's an .8? So much for my early-season stoke.
Hope the Book's still at least 5.9? Please? My ego needs it.

(Really, only the awkward left reach off the funky cam mid-pitch seemed tricky. I'd vote for 5.8+ :))
perswig

climber
Jul 2, 2009 - 09:59pm PT
I'd have to offer up P1 of Chitlin's Corner (Precipice) and Gargoyle (S. Bubble) in Acadia as great climbs at the grade.

Dale
mark miller

Social climber
Reno
Jul 2, 2009 - 11:41pm PT
Any of you 5.8 leaders want to do an FA come on up to Tahoe and Shakespeare has close too 100 5.8 ish FA's. Bring your sack.....I'll lead my share.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 3, 2009 - 11:12am PT
What, Short Order's an .8?

Funny, I first climbed Truckin' Drive (upthread) and Short Order in the same season
(1982), and thought they were similar difficulty, say 5.8+, and psychological "type"
(thin face with spaced-out bolts). Both real fun climbs.

Don't know what the consensus is about Short Order now. As with a lot of 5.8s, the
leader should try hard not to fall.

As for the Book of Solemnity (5.9+), first time I did that I thought it would be 10a in
Eldo. Likewise the 2nd pitch of Chitlins Corner, which was 5.9+ in my guidebook.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 3, 2009 - 11:18am PT
One more Gunks 5.8: the first pitch of Main Line. Guidebook calls this pitch 5.7 (the
second, upthread, contains the 5.8) but when we climbed it the first pitch was soaking
wet and seemed harder.

Blitzo

Social climber
Earth
Jul 3, 2009 - 11:47am PT
5.8.

Photo by Blitzo.
ydpl8s

Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
Jul 3, 2009 - 01:06pm PT
This is an infamous 5.8 in Taylor Canyon, Gunnison. Left Hand is one of those sequence dependent cracks that kicks you out and feels like 5.10 until you figure it out.

Blitzo

Social climber
Earth
Jul 4, 2009 - 01:17pm PT




Photos by Blitzo.
Blitzo

Social climber
Earth
Jul 4, 2009 - 01:58pm PT
Tork, What is that?

Awesome photo!!!
Blitzo

Social climber
Earth
Jul 4, 2009 - 02:41pm PT
That looks good!
rgold

Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
Jul 4, 2009 - 03:26pm PT




Blitzo

Social climber
Earth
Jul 4, 2009 - 03:36pm PT
Photo by Blitzo.

Blitzo

Social climber
Earth
Jul 4, 2009 - 04:32pm PT
Photo by Blitzo.
richross

Trad climber
Jul 4, 2009 - 08:39pm PT
Me following Bonnie's Roof,Gunks.

Ottawa Doug

Social climber
Ottawa, Canada
Jul 5, 2009 - 10:04pm PT
Awesome pics guys! Thanks.

Cheers,

Doug
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 2, 2009 - 01:16pm PT
In celebration of summer, now that summer's gone (credits to Leslie & Cowpoke, photographers):

"A 5.8 route for 5.10 leaders" quoth the guidebook. Maybe not, but it's fun. No Pigs at Echo.



Pine Tree Eliminate on Cathedral looks so easy 'til you're there, wishing for a hex.

SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Sep 2, 2009 - 01:23pm PT
Rich
That's a classic picture on a classic route!
adam d

climber
closer to waves than rock
Sep 2, 2009 - 02:08pm PT
I forget who took this of me or how I ended up with it..a great route though!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/adamdale/3881337303/
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 2, 2009 - 02:20pm PT
Here's a picture looking down the pitch that's in adam d's photo above.
A wild place for 5.8.

adam d

climber
closer to waves than rock
Sep 2, 2009 - 02:30pm PT
Another Gunks 5.8 classic...Son of Easy O

http://www.flickr.com/photos/adamdale/3881390443/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/adamdale/3882190274/

linking 2 great 5.8 pitches, fun to follow with a buddy too...
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 2, 2009 - 03:28pm PT
The Gunks must have one of the best concentrations of classic, memorable 5.8s in the country.

Here's another view of the crux (Son of Easy O) in adam's pic above (David Lucander photo).

JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Sep 2, 2009 - 04:13pm PT
Just about any route rated 5.8 by Mark Powell in the mid-50's will keep your full attention.

John
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 2, 2009 - 04:14pm PT
Post a few?
Ed Bannister

Mountain climber
Riverside, CA
Sep 2, 2009 - 04:36pm PT
White Punks on Dope
adam d

climber
closer to waves than rock
Sep 2, 2009 - 05:43pm PT
soft, over travelled Jtree classic...but it's still fun, right?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/adamdale/1801105962/

Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Sep 2, 2009 - 05:59pm PT
The Nutcracker
The Needle's Eye
Tricouni Nail (see Rgoldstone's July 4th photo up thread)
El Cracko Diablo
Bon Home
Soler
Saterfield's Crack
Fantasia (the leap and Vedauwoo at various times)
hermaphrodite flake et al
The regular route on fairview.

many, many more

a lot of cool stuff happens at, or about, that grade...
cowpoke

climber
Sep 2, 2009 - 07:28pm PT
a couple of (on) frogland RR (Chiloe gets the photo credits):

one at DT that Jaybro mentioned for about 5.8 (Kelly gets the photo credit):

and one at DT, but not mentioned:

steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
Sep 2, 2009 - 08:39pm PT
Some good ones...

Braille Book, Yosemite

Granite Savior, Granite Mountain, AZ

Mars Attacks, Sedona

Morning's Mourning, The Overlook, AZ

Petit Grepon, RMNP, CO

Ruper, Eldorado Canyon, CO

Rye Crisp, City of Rocks, ID

Triple S (Shipley's Shivering Shimmy), Seneca Rocks, WV
TKingsbury

Trad climber
MT
Sep 2, 2009 - 08:44pm PT

Spare Rib, Gallatin Canyon
adam d

climber
closer to waves than rock
Sep 2, 2009 - 09:14pm PT
Jubilant Song, Windy Peak, Red Rocks

http://www.flickr.com/photos/adamdale/3882354005/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/adamdale/3883147228
philo

Trad climber
boulder, co.
Sep 2, 2009 - 09:36pm PT
Wow this is a really great thread.
adam d

climber
closer to waves than rock
Sep 2, 2009 - 10:03pm PT
yup...if you can't enjoy 5.8 there's something wrong with you!
the museum

Trad climber
Rapid City
Sep 2, 2009 - 11:31pm PT
dee ee

Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
Sep 3, 2009 - 12:13am PT
Some of my faves shown. Igor, 5.8......OK...OK...I,, yuh huh... understand that.



Blitzo....that one looked 5.11. Tony Yaniro in EBs?
adam d

climber
closer to waves than rock
Sep 3, 2009 - 12:23am PT
looked a little like spider line but not quite...def NOT 5.8!!
Captain...or Skully

Social climber
Boise....
Sep 3, 2009 - 12:45am PT
WOW, That's a great picture, Museum.
Says it all.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 3, 2009 - 10:11am PT
There will be a story about this particular ascent coming in Alpinist 28, I believe.

Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Sep 4, 2009 - 04:06pm PT
And, how could I have forgotten,
Magnolia Thunder Pussy?
nutjob

climber
Berkeley, CA
Sep 4, 2009 - 04:12pm PT
A pitch or two from Northeast Buttress of Higher Cathedral Rock should be represented in photos here...
TrundleBum

Trad climber
Las Vegas
Sep 4, 2009 - 04:41pm PT

LOL Jay...
Or for that matter Rotert's
"Titties and Beer"

Surprised Chiloe (or any New Englander) has not mentioned:
N.Conway - Bombardment
Franconia - Reppy's

And is this independent routes or do single pitches qualify?
If so I plug for the 'DBL crack' pith up to Big Sandy.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Sep 4, 2009 - 04:48pm PT
The Mechanic's Route.
One of the older ones.

The last moves to the first belay can be cruxy if your legs are to short on one end.
adam d

climber
closer to waves than rock
Sep 4, 2009 - 05:25pm PT
Reppy's Crack, Cannon


Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Sep 4, 2009 - 05:30pm PT
I want to climb Reppy's! Anyone heading that way via Wolf City, tonight, after work?
Ezra

Social climber
WA, NC, Idaho Falls
Sep 4, 2009 - 05:50pm PT
[/img]http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/photo.php?pid=8483&id=100000204667187{{/img}}

How do i get the bastard to post?
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Sep 4, 2009 - 06:11pm PT
I tried to post it by adding img tags, when that didn't work I looked at it saw it is on my face, I believe they don't allow linking and you have to have it hosted elsewhere, like photobucket.
Inner City

Trad climber
East Bay
Sep 4, 2009 - 08:24pm PT
what a way to start the weekend. 5.8 is great. Great pictures...I gotta lose some weight...thanks for the inspiration
goatboy smellz

climber
लघिमा, co
Sep 4, 2009 - 08:38pm PT


Squeaking in with a 5.7+ Stettner's Ledges from 1927.
MH2

climber
Sep 4, 2009 - 09:08pm PT
The Gunks have many great 5.8s

Squamish has Clean Corner.


the museum

Trad climber
Rapid City
Oct 9, 2009 - 12:02am PT
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
Oct 9, 2009 - 01:52am PT
museum, where is that one?
Reilly

Mountain climber
Monrovia, CA
Oct 9, 2009 - 02:08am PT
Hard to believe but this was mid-November BITD, as if the apparel and
gear didn't already scream that. I wonder how much of that moss is
still on the first pitch.
Darwin

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Oct 9, 2009 - 03:11am PT
Supertopo Tony, Yvonne and I went to England in in 2007. This is how all my posts begin, but: "Pouring over book-X in year-Y, I've wanted to climb route-Z". In this case it was Mountain #26 "True Grit", 1973 and English gritstone. I couldn't remember how hard these routes were, but we're now 5.8 climbers so, there you go. The first was at Bamford Edge above our lodgings (pub!) by the Ladybower Resevoir.


The following are from some super moderate climb at Stanage (Balcony Buttress) that we translated to 5.6. Whatever. I whimpered on the lead, and you might notice the pro every 6 inches or so.

The following are from the NW end of Stanage Edge. We all found the gritstone grain milling wheels super interesting and between us, photos of them must have comprised half our pictures.

The birding was super cool, too. Then Tony and Yvonne went off North and climbed Ardverikie Wall on Binnein Shuas in the Central Scottish Highlands.
the museum

Trad climber
Rapid City
Oct 9, 2009 - 10:27am PT
Munge, that one is the super uber classic "Stardancer" at Mt Rushmore...
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
Oct 9, 2009 - 01:45pm PT
classic!
the museum

Trad climber
Rapid City
Oct 10, 2009 - 12:17am PT
there's a 5.8 in there somewhere...

Slater

Trad climber
Central Coast
Oct 10, 2009 - 01:08am PT
Man, that was fun! More pictures!
Todd Gordon

Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
Oct 11, 2009 - 04:21am PT
Did a "previously unreported " climb today;...Starrbonne (5.8)......it was a very good climb, a beautiful day, with a great view on cool rock....This picture was taken at about 5:00 this evening....Joshua Tree, Ca.


the museum

Trad climber
Rapid City
Oct 11, 2009 - 10:52am PT
McCarthy N face P1. Sorry if posted previously..


Michael Hjorth

Trad climber
Copenhagen, Denmark
Nov 17, 2009 - 04:08pm PT
Gentlemen,

I need to put you attention to the first picture and TR on this thread: Chiloe's and my visit to Kullen in Sweden more than two years ago. Which promted several of you to question the safety of Chiloe, climbing as he apperantly was on a 20+ years rope...

Ofcause he wasn't! It was maybe three years old (but - ok - of questionable east european quality). Anyway, Wootles promised me a new Sterling. And he kept his word! Chiloe visited me in Copenhagen yesterday, and brought with him a nice, strong and unique Sterling rope. Wouw, I didn't deserve that!

The old rope HAS been cut up (so I can use it on plastic walls...), and this new one will be put to good use on slimy wet, green, loose and cold Kullen next weekend. Looking forward to that.

Thanks again, Wootles!

Chiloe, show us the picture!

Michael
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 17, 2009 - 05:02pm PT
OK, Michael, let's update the story! The original rope in question appeared in this photo that
Michael took in Kullen, Sweden ("the best climbing in Denmark!") back about 2 years ago.



Seeing this photo, the avatar formerly known as wootles remarked,
You're lucky you didn't fall, that rope would have snapped like clothesline.

Tell him to chuck that rope and I'll see to it he gets a real one.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 17, 2009 - 05:07pm PT
Michael replied with an old black and white photo,


Oh - he-he - thanks for the comments on my rope.

Same rope as in this picture. Me on Kullen as well, only 25 years previously. Whillans harness
and EBs have been dumped, though
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 17, 2009 - 05:08pm PT
This caused wootles to respond,

There's a catch, however. If I'm successful in getting a rope to you I want you to post a photo
of the old rope cut to pieces.

This is not a troll. Verify this with Chiloe.



I think Michael still suspected he was being trolled.
slabbo

Trad climber
fort garland, colo
Nov 17, 2009 - 05:10pm PT
DUDE ! That route will never make it on to 8a ! Furry ropes are way good, easier to grip.
Michael Hjorth

Trad climber
Copenhagen, Denmark
Nov 17, 2009 - 05:10pm PT
Woups, 25 years! Did I write that?!
What a cheeky bastard I was. Sorry!
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 17, 2009 - 05:15pm PT
Intentions were good, but for a long time nothing came of this banter. Events did not line
up favorably for a transatlantic rope-toss.

Then, a couple of weeks ago, I went climbing at Whitehorse with wootles (who has since
changed his name).



I mentioned that I would be passing through Michael's town soon, and could drop off a rope if
wootles still wanted to follow through on that old SuperTopo thread.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 17, 2009 - 05:19pm PT
And so it happened that, although the closest I got to climbing on this trip was a nice view
from the 21st floor,


I did get invited over for dinner with Michael's family and also astrange, on the right here,
who together with Michael comprises the Danish chapter of SuperTopo.

Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 17, 2009 - 05:21pm PT
And Michael now owns a prototype Sterling rope, only 2 of its kind in the world so I'm told.

Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 17, 2009 - 05:22pm PT
Which might be overkill for those Kullen belays!

richross

Trad climber
Nov 17, 2009 - 05:28pm PT
Me taking it down a notch to 5.7.

Mt. Desert Island,Maine 1985.

Batrock

Trad climber
Burbank
Nov 17, 2009 - 05:34pm PT
Split Decision 5.8+
Wandering Bovine 5.8
Michael Hjorth

Trad climber
Copenhagen, Denmark
Nov 17, 2009 - 05:34pm PT
Thanks for the full round up, Larry!

Just a slight drift:
Two remarks to your nice picture of Copenhagen:
1: The great building on the left will (hopefully) soon be turned into one of the highest indoor climbing walls in Europe.

2: Went up the spiral stairs on that central tower (Frelser Kirke) with my girls a few months ago. Youngest takes no notice of the 60+ meter above the streets; the other begging me to take them down again.

Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 17, 2009 - 06:35pm PT
That's a lovely windblown photo of your girls, Michael. And Copenhagen's a fine city.
Floridaputz

Trad climber
Oakland Park Florida
Nov 17, 2009 - 08:01pm PT


Rudder

Trad climber
Santa Rosa, CA
Nov 17, 2009 - 10:25pm PT
Traitor Horn and Mechanics Route on Taquitz gotta get honorable mention, forsure.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Nov 17, 2009 - 11:41pm PT
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Jul 28, 2011 - 11:43pm PT
Hah hah! When the blocks can be wiggled with your hand that IS running it out! (it is a Zero)
Looks a lot more like a Zero to me. And I'm not sure I'd call 4 feet of rope running it out, AC...

Nice stuff Chiloe and you other dudes too! Woot!
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Jul 28, 2011 - 11:45pm PT
Best 5.8's on this Planet are in the Gunks.
yo

climber
Mudcat Spire
Jul 28, 2011 - 11:54pm PT
Fact: They are at the City.
reddirt

climber
PNW
Jul 29, 2011 - 04:18am PT
has anyone mentioned Irene's Arete yet? (ok, so it's 5.8-10ish)


Charlie D.

Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
Jul 29, 2011 - 09:32am PT
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 29, 2011 - 10:38am PT
Scariest route I've done in years was only 5.8.

mike m

Trad climber
black hills
Jul 29, 2011 - 12:44pm PT
Here is a beauty put up by the Conn's on Rubyiatt(spelling?) in the Cathedral Spires.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 29, 2011 - 01:46pm PT
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jul 29, 2011 - 01:49pm PT
5.8 was all I ever aspired to...


cowpoke

climber
Jun 1, 2013 - 05:07pm PT
Moby Grape at Cannon, yesterday.

A few of the pitches are carved into beautiful, seemingly solid granite slaps. Others make cairns along the approach look bomber. An early start, clouds, and a little thunderstorm meant the cliff temps were close to perfect. And, after 6 months of "working" on adding training weight, 5.8 was just right. The hike down was another matter. Car thermometer read 92 in the shade, and I was hurtin'...still am today!
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 1, 2013 - 05:36pm PT
Moby Grape has some of the best rock on Cannon, but I recall thinking there were whole pitches that could just fall off. Perfect granite that's not attached to anything.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 21, 2018 - 09:54pm PT
good ol' days bump
yanqui

climber
Balcarce, Argentina
Jul 22, 2018 - 02:05am PT
steveA

Trad climber
Wolfeboro, NH
Jul 22, 2018 - 05:44am PT
Here is a photo taken a few weeks ago of the Wind Rivers with the Cirque of the Towers below. In the far distance is the East Fork Valley. If you enlarge the image of the East Fork, that big buttress on the right is Raid peak, and the 16 pitch buttress is only 5.8. The hike in is also about 16 miles.
Obviously, the classic 5.8 on Pingora is a great choice, shown in the photo as well.
Contractor

Boulder climber
CA
Jul 22, 2018 - 07:12am PT
White Punks for the rock, cracks and sheer quality.Whitney, East Buttress for bigger, higher and total output.Hermit Spire- this route seems to resists you from start to finish.
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Jul 22, 2018 - 07:58am PT
We have done many memorable 5.8s on this trip. Most recently a really cool 5 pitch ramp to tower thing in the East Rosebud MT. Someone told us what canyon to take and follow the crack system. Great Adventure.
AP

Trad climber
Calgary
Jul 22, 2018 - 09:39am PT
My vote is for the NE Ridge on Bugaboo Spire. Great rock, great line, and superb position
steveA

Trad climber
Wolfeboro, NH
Jul 22, 2018 - 09:53am PT
AP

I just went to a cook out and Dave Isles was there who lives about 2 hours drive from me. Dave was on the 1st ascent of that route on Bugaboo Spire, along with John Turner, Craft, and Sykes. There are so many great 5.8's!
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 22, 2018 - 10:01am PT
yes on Bugaboo Spire, though regretfully we didn't do it then...1985

in 1995 we had planned on it, but the weather got in the way, here is a shot across Bugaboo Spire, the red dot on the ridge with the cloud band in the background is a team summiting on that route
that was the last good weather day in the range that summer.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 22, 2018 - 10:33am PT
Pingora... Northeast Face, August 2001
better to leave Kelsey's topo on the ground and just climb it the 5.8 way... though there are interesting variations at harder grades!
AP

Trad climber
Calgary
Jul 22, 2018 - 01:17pm PT
Oh and beware if you climb the NE ridge of Bugaboo after 4 days of storms like first time I did it in 1980. The top 4 pitches were coated in ice, we had 1 axe each , full shank boots, and no ice gear. I did a lot of chopping and the last bump we had to climb from rock to rock sticking out of the ice.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 22, 2018 - 03:33pm PT
The Bugs are "alpine" after all...

Here, Lawrence two ropes it on 'Gunks, Son of Easy O, 1987
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 22, 2018 - 03:38pm PT
Bela leads out on p4 of Ewephoria Cochise Stronghold 2018
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 22, 2018 - 07:36pm PT
nobody else has lead 5.8?
it would seem a low bar...

Steve York leads The Flake, Joshua Tree, 2008
AP

Trad climber
Calgary
Jul 22, 2018 - 08:15pm PT
Nice variety on the Flake
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 23, 2018 - 01:37am PT
Ejesta, Yosemite Valley

Gary Carpenter, 2009

Linda Jarit, 2017
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 23, 2018 - 07:59am PT
Steve York in Elevator Shaft, Yosemite Valley, 2008
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 23, 2018 - 09:38am PT
Arrowhead Arete, Yosemite Valley

Gary, 2008

Linda, 2013
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 23, 2018 - 10:00am PT
Haystack, Lover's Leap

Eric Gabel, 2013
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Jul 23, 2018 - 10:58am PT
,,,,,,,,, There Is 5.8,,,,,,, Then There is High-E The Hard Way, 5.8,,,,,,,,
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Jul 23, 2018 - 11:05am PT
There is something special about 5.8 climbs. They’re hard enough to hold interest and require attentive movement but easy enough to keep the climbing relaxed. All in all, 5.8s usually serve up a delicious menu of climbing delights.
ddriver

Trad climber
SLC, UT
Jul 23, 2018 - 11:29am PT
Don't have my own route photos to share, but you can see photos in the links below. Some worthwhile 5.8's (more or less):

https://www.mountainproject.com/route/106074170/gamesmanship

https://www.mountainproject.com/route/107321383/the-mutt-and-jeff

https://www.mountainproject.com/route/105714800/garfield-goes-to-washington

https://www.mountainproject.com/route/106531483/open-book

https://www.mountainproject.com/route/107140287/direttissima

https://www.mountainproject.com/route/106513460/south-face-buttress-1-aka-south-arete

https://www.mountainproject.com/route/107377790/scarf-arete-aka-spigolo-del-velo

https://www.mountainproject.com/route/105967430/vinatzer
AP

Trad climber
Calgary
Jul 23, 2018 - 11:35am PT
Not to mention that many old 5.8's have been upgraded to 5.9 (outside of Joshua Tree that is)
WyoRockMan

climber
Grizzlyville, WY
Jul 23, 2018 - 11:48am PT
The Bon Homme Variation at the tower is a fantastic 5.8 outing.
BigB

Trad climber
Red Rock
Jul 23, 2018 - 01:44pm PT
Great Red Book in Red Rock, only 2p, but def worth it!
divad

Trad climber
wmass
Jul 23, 2018 - 05:50pm PT
Otto's Route, Colorado National Monument.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Jul 23, 2018 - 05:54pm PT

Legitimation 5.8 *** FA Munge and Mtnyoung Autumn of 2004, SPH

mtnyoung getting in one of the later bolts. Someone didn't bring enough draws on his go, so the bottom clips were repurposed. :)
divad

Trad climber
wmass
Jul 23, 2018 - 06:10pm PT
Birdland, Gunks

i'm gumby dammit

Sport climber
da ow
Jul 23, 2018 - 09:37pm PT
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 23, 2018 - 09:42pm PT
Nutcracker, Yosemite Valley

Mike Dalquist, 2005

Callie Rennison, 2007
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 23, 2018 - 09:45pm PT
Bishop's Terrace, Yosemite Valley

Duke Cutter, 2001

Lisa Poyneer, 2003

Roger Breedlove, 2010
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 23, 2018 - 09:47pm PT
C.S. Concerto, Yosemite Valley

Rik Rieder, 2010
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 24, 2018 - 01:11am PT
The Block, Right, Tuolumne Meadows

Gary Carpenter, 2004
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 24, 2018 - 08:50am PT
Satterfield's Crack, Vedauwoo

Zander, 2007
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 24, 2018 - 08:52am PT
FA of Phatima, Crackistan

Steve Moyles leads, 2007
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 24, 2018 - 08:54am PT
Melissa Michelitsch taking off from the belay on Hanging Teeth, on a FOBIAD trial run, Yosemite Valley, 2007
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 24, 2018 - 08:55am PT
Jaybro teasing Cid's Embrace, Yosemite Valley, 2007
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 24, 2018 - 08:56am PT
Dave Grote on Lotta Balls, Red Rocks, 2006
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 24, 2018 - 08:58am PT
Casey McTaggert cruising Little John, Left, Yosemite Valley, 2005
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Jul 24, 2018 - 05:07pm PT
me cruising up The ramp in east rosebud Montana a few days ago..
Gilroy

Social climber
Bolderado
Jul 24, 2018 - 07:01pm PT

Ddriver on The Owl. All the Triple Cracks are 5.8 except the fourth one.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 24, 2018 - 07:44pm PT
nice!!

Jaybro coming up on The Gollum, Right, Yosemite Valley, 2007

Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 24, 2018 - 08:43pm PT
Shagadelic, Tuolumne Meadows

Lawrence Wienke, 2006
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 24, 2018 - 09:04pm PT
another view of i'm gumby dammit's ledge, from After Five (which is a 5.7 that will kick you ass like a Valley "5.9"), a route that nobody does, nobody...
...Gabel in the foreground not withstanding

I count at least 5 people on that popular ledge, May 2006
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 25, 2018 - 07:41am PT
The Ordeal, Pinnacles National Monument

Gary Carpenter, 2003

and 2013
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 25, 2018 - 08:52am PT
Natural, Yosemite Valley

Eric Gabel, 2003
likely follows a 1985 Shipley/Middendorf line called Fireside Chat no bolts were found, none were added, simply walk up to the cliff and follow the natural line to the top.
fgw

climber
portland, or
Jul 25, 2018 - 11:01am PT
Certainly the most unusual 5.7-5.8(ish) we've done:


A classic 160 meter British chalk climb.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Jul 25, 2018 - 02:06pm PT
hey your chalky choss needs to be in the choss compels you thread! :)
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 25, 2018 - 09:47pm PT
Magical Mystery Tour, Tuolumne Meadows

Gary Carpenter, 2003,
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 26, 2018 - 12:01am PT
South Crack, Tuolumne Meadows

Steve York, 2010

Linda Jarit, 2011

Aaron Smud, 2012

Rob Sharpe, 2013

Mike Church, 2013

ddriver

Trad climber
SLC, UT
Jul 26, 2018 - 06:46am PT
^^^
not fair
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 26, 2018 - 07:27am PT
Steve Cassels follows across the traverse on Little John, Right, Yosemite Valley, 2002
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 26, 2018 - 07:17pm PT
Sue Godar on pitch 1 Escher's Way, Shuteye, 2010
dee ee

Mountain climber
Of THIS World (Planet Earth)
Jul 26, 2018 - 09:03pm PT
How about the north arete of Crystal Crag, Mammoth area?

I lost my sunglasses on the approach, and climbing the last pitch in bright sunlight was painful! The sunlight reflecting off the solid white quartz dike was blinding!
dee ee

Mountain climber
Of THIS World (Planet Earth)
Jul 26, 2018 - 09:09pm PT
What about the Fingertrip on Tahquitz ?

While some might argue that it’s not 5.8 the first pitch has a 5.8 variation.
Rick Linkert

Trad climber
El Dorado Hills CA
Jul 26, 2018 - 09:18pm PT
Let’s not forget the wonderful “Satan’s Slab” in Boulder. Climbed one fine fall day with Chiloe in the late Pleistocene era. A nice long slab climb in a beautiful side canyon. Has a bit of runout here and there but nothing of consequence for the Tuolomne gang.

Cheers

Rick
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 27, 2018 - 06:14am PT
Great Pumpkin, Tuolumne Meadows, 2012

Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 28, 2018 - 07:44pm PT
Eric Gabel, Deviate, Lover's Leap, 2013
Inner City

Trad climber
Portland, OR
Jul 28, 2018 - 07:52pm PT
Ed,
You are mastering this thread AND 5.8 too.

So many great routes for the everyday man out there.

In the 'Hard 5.8' category Braille Book is legit.

"tradmanclimbs,' your "The Ramp" is yet another route of the same name to the one I'm thinking of on Flagpole Peak above Echo Lake in Tahoe area. A very nice 5.8 lieback on great rock, nice summit too.

Great Pumpkin! Loved it and felt the exposure as I recall.

Here is to the everyman! (that I onetime was!)

now I'm Plantar Phat Dad itis...
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 29, 2018 - 09:59am PT
The Harry Daley Route, Yosemite Valley

Steve Cassels, 2002

Brandon, 2011
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jul 29, 2018 - 10:49am PT
Harry Daily 5.8? Really? 🙀
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 29, 2018 - 10:54am PT
when spelling is corrected...
WyoRockMan

climber
Grizzlyville, WY
Jul 29, 2018 - 11:07am PT
K Cracks on Pingora's SE buttress are pretty fine 5.8.

Evel

Trad climber
Nedsterdam CO
Jul 29, 2018 - 12:23pm PT
Tripple S at Seneca is worth mentioning.
phylp

Trad climber
Upland, CA
Jul 29, 2018 - 03:53pm PT
I am enjoying the thread. Sorry I can't contribute a photo - I never carry a camera, and would rather my partner focus on belaying me than shoot a butt shot.
I do climb a lot of 5.8 - it's my favorite grade for long routes because it's a grade at which I can feel completely relaxed. It's just climbing for the pure joy of moving over stone.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jul 29, 2018 - 03:59pm PT
Thanks, Ed! Didn’t know I was that gud! Woot!
Curt

climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
Jul 29, 2018 - 06:27pm PT
Definitely some good 5.9s in those 5.8s :-)

Curt
onyourleft

climber
So Oregon
Jul 29, 2018 - 09:49pm PT
What? No love for "Walk On The Wild Side" - Josh?
(To be fair, some guides give it 5.7, but I bump it to .8 based on exposure and general lack of pro.)
Can't find any pictures at the moment but it's a heady lead.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 30, 2018 - 07:07am PT
Lisa Poyneer Honeymoon's Over, Tuolumne Meadows, 2011



 loved the K Cracks
yanqui

climber
Balcarce, Argentina
Jul 30, 2018 - 10:32am PT
The southwest face of Shoshone (Blodgett Canyon) is a nice 4 or 5 pitch 5.8. There are many possible variations on the lower buttress and then follow cracks for three pitches on the left-hand side of the south face of the upper spire.



Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 30, 2018 - 07:21pm PT
Bela Logan, Desperate for Doughnuts, Yosemite Valley, 2015
le_bruce

climber
Oakland, CA
Jul 30, 2018 - 11:48pm PT
A 5.8 you know well, Ed: the Chockstone Chimney, 10-star adventure 5.8. One I'll go back to.


Only complication is the descent, which was a bit sketchy.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 31, 2018 - 12:32am PT
^^^that's a good one,
I thought I had film in my camera (yes, it was that long ago) and didn't get any images on film that wasn't there... but there are images indelibly etched in my memory
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Jul 31, 2018 - 03:19am PT
Modern Times Direct, )
Goes up the right side edge & center
of the very large stacked flake,(crux, harder than .8?)
then after the original crux, the break in the roof
at the right hand corner,
finishes up the slab thru the cap stone,
the black line
I ask'd Dana Bartlett, to go do it & give it a grade

The green line is Modern Times, 5.8



Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 31, 2018 - 09:15am PT
ah the 'Gunks...

...but meantime on the Left Coast

Linda Jarit on Rock Pixies, Yosemite Valley, 2010
Da-Veed

Big Wall climber
Bigfork
Jul 31, 2018 - 09:38am PT
One of my all time favorite...Diedre


And another great 5.8 at Smith....Sky ridge


Love the grade!
ydpl8s

Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
Jul 31, 2018 - 04:26pm PT
A little fun one in Taylor Canyon, Gunnison - Dunn's Dihedral , hand crack at the back of the corner, plenty of stuff on the walls to stem if you want, bitd it ate stoppers and hexes.

thedogfather

Trad climber
Somewhere near Red Rocks
Aug 1, 2018 - 07:10am PT
Some of my favorite Red Rock 5.8 classics. Fond memories now that we moved back to Kansas for family.
hooblie

climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
Aug 1, 2018 - 07:33am PT
way to make it look enticing dogfather, also great pic:
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=2947489&msg=3071783#msg3071783
Charlie D.

Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
Aug 1, 2018 - 10:59am PT
Lovers Leap

Haystack
Preparation H
East Cracks

mooch

Trad climber
Tribal Base Camp (Riverkern Annex)
Aug 1, 2018 - 11:56am PT
+1 for Dierdre.

'Wing Feather' on Grey Eagle, Shuteye Ridge


Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Aug 1, 2018 - 09:43pm PT
^^^love the knob tie off!

Steve York, Captain Hook, Left, Yosemite Valley, 2013
Inner City

Trad climber
Portland, OR
Aug 1, 2018 - 09:51pm PT
Dogfather! Yes to those mega classic Red Rocks 5.8s. Loved Frogland and Dark Shadows. Maybe Frogland a little more. Such a wonderful route.

'onyourleft' definite love for Walk on the Wild Side, solid runouts and the great exposed downclimb/walkoff.

I once took a 6 foot 10 new climber on Walk... and he was so freaked out, he was a super athletic guy, who high-jumped over 7 feet and played college hoops. He did fine on it as I recall. The exposure was a lot for him. Not sure he ever climbed again. It was a stout first climb.

Anyone mention the standard route on Clyde Minaret yet? There's a great 5.8 in a fantastic setting.
ddriver

Trad climber
SLC, UT
Aug 2, 2018 - 07:39am PT
Photo of the upper half of the Vinatzer (Third Sella) taken from the Demetz (Second Sella). You can just make out a team about 2/3rds the way up the right-leaning crack system left of center. 5.8

Scole

Trad climber
Zapopan
Aug 2, 2018 - 08:53am PT
I climbed the mega classic 5.8 S.W. Face of the Wedge in the Humbug Spires, Montana with this guy in a cowboy hat.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Aug 2, 2018 - 06:45pm PT
Gary Carpenter, Haley Anna, Yosemite Valley, 2012
Gary Carpenter

climber
SF Bay Area
Aug 2, 2018 - 08:20pm PT
Ed Hartouni on Circular Staircase, Sentinel Rock

Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Aug 2, 2018 - 08:39pm PT
^^^I think that The RORP
Gary Carpenter

climber
SF Bay Area
Aug 2, 2018 - 09:44pm PT
Yep you're correct. That's the pitch where I almost took you out with a dead tree!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Aug 3, 2018 - 06:05am PT
Mighty Linda Jarit leading the first pitch of Southwest Direct 5.7

Climber left of Linda is on a 5.8
Chasbro on the next climb over, Rangers are people too, 5.9-
So we’re averaging 5.8 here!
to our left climber on the ardous and infinite 5.11 stem pitch of El Matador ( climberon Macarthy west) lowerclimberison topofpitchobeelMat,5.8

What trip to DevilsTower would be complete without a Fulgarite?
mcreel

climber
Barcelona
Aug 3, 2018 - 08:08am PT
I went up Prime Rib of Goat at Mazama, WA, the other day. 11 pitches, rated 5.9-, but it's a soft 5.9-. Highly recommended! Get an early start and finish in the shade.
mooch

Trad climber
Tribal Base Camp (Riverkern Annex)
Aug 3, 2018 - 09:46am PT
Jubilant Song, Red Rocks



Sail Away, Joshua Tree

Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Aug 3, 2018 - 03:59pm PT
it's a wonder that we find time to climb...
here's a picture of you on that day too, Gary
5/7/2011 11:51
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Aug 3, 2018 - 04:05pm PT
photogenic climb, Jaybro and Steve summit, wearing the same Fish rugby jersey, the Edzilla era 2011
AP

Trad climber
Calgary
Aug 3, 2018 - 06:48pm PT
I seem to remember no anchors on top of Sail Away in the 80's and having to down climb a 5.6
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Aug 4, 2018 - 12:36am PT
Linda Jarit on the first pitch of Deto’s Soler, sometimes called a 5.8. A warm up for the 5.9, second pitch.. that was Her, lead

perswig

climber
Aug 4, 2018 - 01:01pm PT

Troy gets started in the final thrutch of Gargoyle, a fine .8 on MDI.
Dale
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Aug 4, 2018 - 11:07pm PT
Eric Gabel, Color Me Gone, Yosemite Valley, 2005
perswig

climber
Aug 5, 2018 - 03:22am PT
^^
Damn, I miss .8-.9 slab climbing...
Dale
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Aug 5, 2018 - 10:31pm PT
Aaron Smud, Left Side of Ivory Tower, Tuolumne Meadows, 2012
Stephen McCabe

Trad climber
near Santa Cruz, CA
Aug 6, 2018 - 01:19am PT
Gerri on the first ascent of Crooked Neck, Penstemon Dome, 5.8. She's above the "walk the plank tree" as Dwight calls it. You don't actually walk the plank.
mooch

Trad climber
Tribal Base Camp (Riverkern Annex)
Aug 6, 2018 - 06:45am PT
^^^ Nice shot of Eric on 'Color Me Gone'. Hey Ed, how's Eric's ankle? Wasn't sure if he was able to get back out on the sharp end.

Love all of your routes Stephen.....well, most of 'em that don't put stains in the trousers! ;)
Stephen McCabe

Trad climber
near Santa Cruz, CA
Aug 6, 2018 - 12:22pm PT
Thanks Mooch. Yeah, what was I thinking about run-outs on some of my routes? But I think Crooked Neck is most likely fine. Somebody even added a bolt to it. And following up on Ed, the Left Side of Ivory Tower was an ok place to practice placing my first really large piece of pro, a Merlin 8. I have now placed it once.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Aug 6, 2018 - 07:56pm PT
Eric watches what's goin' on in the climbing world,
and we're still very actively completing the YFC (just over at his place yesterday going over pages)

but I'm not gonna post anything that would require him to explain himself...
...Eric in a very obscure place in Yosemite Valley, November 2017, please note that that is his clipboard for note taking for YFC in the right background.

We were just out taking notes, ya, that's the ticket...
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Aug 6, 2018 - 09:18pm PT
you can stick all sorts of gear in that crack, Stephen!
Stephen McCabe

Trad climber
near Santa Cruz, CA
Aug 7, 2018 - 01:51am PT
Ed,
Ha! Wow, lots of gear on our friend.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Aug 7, 2018 - 07:20pm PT
Gary Carpenter on Drop Your Heels Or Sure To Peel, Yosemite Valley, 2012
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Aug 8, 2018 - 08:41am PT
Baobab Tree, Vedauwoo, 2008
this was already ten years ago, my how time flies!
Gary Carpenter

climber
SF Bay Area
Aug 8, 2018 - 09:13am PT

Tom Carpenter on Selaginella 2007
perswig

climber
Aug 8, 2018 - 09:32am PT

Pinn Butt, Mt. Wash; unknown party while we waited
5.8ish this pitch
Dale
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Aug 8, 2018 - 10:04pm PT
Eric Gabel, Better With Bacon, Lover's Leap, 2013
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Aug 8, 2018 - 10:06pm PT
I was just thinking about climbing some 5.8. Collusion!
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Aug 9, 2018 - 06:33pm PT
Linda Jarit cruxed, Edge Of Absurdity, Yosemite Valley, 2010

selfish man

Gym climber
Austin, TX
Aug 10, 2018 - 04:57am PT
Lousy shot of a wonderful Robbins route in Cracked Canyon: Chewbacca

Pirouette, same location: (maybe not 5.8, but I can't find a thread for 5.7):
Mark Force

Trad climber
Ashland, Oregon
Aug 10, 2018 - 09:01am PT
Cracked Canyon! Sweet!
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Aug 10, 2018 - 10:26am PT
^^^love the shot, iconic, in my mind I hear the leader yelling down "which way does the topo say?"

and the fumbling of fingers pulling the folded script from a pocket, the mind glancing at a few abstract lines with age inappropriate lettering (small) attempting to convey a highly abbreviated notation.

First ascents are so much more sane that way.
norm larson

climber
wilson, wyoming
Aug 10, 2018 - 03:16pm PT
Savwafare est everywhere. One of the better 5.8s in J Tree.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Aug 11, 2018 - 10:19am PT
Mike Church leads Baby, Shawangunks, 1980
one of our first climbs in the 'Gunks, chosen because "how hard can 5.8 be?"
note the rack of hexes and nuts, and some tied slings, EB's on the feet.

By the way, Baby is an interesting 5.8 to lead... usually we did it, BITD, with about 4 pieces to the belay.

This is my oldest image of 5.8, and I've shown most of my other images (at least the presentable ones)...

...so this thread will wait for me to collect some more images, or for some of you to share your own.
selfish man

Gym climber
Austin, TX
Aug 11, 2018 - 12:06pm PT
North Arete, Bear Creek Spire
selfish man

Gym climber
Austin, TX
Aug 11, 2018 - 12:13pm PT
Barry being silly at the top of Moosedog tower, JTree. Whatever we did was 5.8, give or take
Ed H

Trad climber
Santa Rosa, CA
Aug 15, 2018 - 10:06am PT
Eagle Lake Cliff, Unknown Chimney 5.8 bolts!


After you lead the chimney you can TR an amazing 4 star arete 10c called 'Off the Wall'


You've also get a good view of climbers on Space Walk 11d


Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Aug 15, 2018 - 10:25am PT
Wonderful & wide, A Fritz Wiessner classic, put up in '40,(not,'41 as all the books say), Baby is a hard 5.6.
Alpinista55

Mountain climber
Portland, OR
Aug 15, 2018 - 02:22pm PT
Outer Space on Snow Creek Wall, WA

Musta been a while back... those look like EBs on my feet.

Mark Force

Trad climber
Ashland, Oregon
Aug 15, 2018 - 03:36pm PT
EBs, rugby shirt, no chalk...yeah, been a while.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Aug 15, 2018 - 03:41pm PT
I hope chiloe is well.
yanqui

climber
Balcarce, Argentina
Aug 16, 2018 - 04:13am PT
Cool shot of the crux traverse on Outer Space (rated 5.8+ back in the day). I was too lazy to even take pictures back then, let alone set up a shot like that!
Alpinista55

Mountain climber
Portland, OR
Aug 16, 2018 - 12:01pm PT
No set-up involved in that shot of Outer Space. My friend who led the pitch before me sewed up the traverse and had so much rope drag that he had to belay early and just happened to be in the right spot for the photo.
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Aug 16, 2018 - 02:27pm PT

Sherman Granite 5.8 bumpity
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 17, 2018 - 12:49pm PT
I hope chiloe is well.

Thanks Willbeer, still thriving.

wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Aug 29, 2018 - 03:41pm PT
Good to see man, I may get over your way this fall.
Hardly Visible

Social climber
Llatikcuf WA
Aug 29, 2018 - 03:48pm PT
wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Aug 29, 2018 - 03:58pm PT

Snowy Mountain ,New York,5.8 all over it.
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Aug 29, 2018 - 05:43pm PT
wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Aug 29, 2018 - 06:13pm PT
Likewise.
WyoRockMan

climber
Grizzlyville, WY
Aug 29, 2018 - 06:33pm PT
North Ridge of Steeple, in the Winds is a fine five eighter.

rgold

Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
Aug 29, 2018 - 06:56pm PT
Mike Church leads Baby, Shawangunks, 1980...one of our first climbs in the 'Gunks, chosen because "how hard can 5.8 be?"

...By the way, Baby is an interesting 5.8 to lead... usually we did it, BITD, with about 4 pieces to the belay.

This is my oldest image of 5.8, and I've shown most of my other images (at least the presentable ones)...

Bad news Ed. Back in 1980, Baby was 5.6. With the passage of time, it has made it up to 5.7. It may well finally get to 5.8, but no idea how long that will take.

As the difficulty rating have gone up, the seriousness has gone down, from ground-fall level protection when Fritz did it to an overhead pro from a large cam nowadays. Progress!
i'm gumby dammit

Sport climber
da ow
Aug 29, 2018 - 07:50pm PT
Ed mentioned the unknown chimney at Eagle Lake


bit'er ol' guy

climber
the past
Aug 30, 2018 - 10:24am PT
5.8 could be anything and that's great. but really the whole YDS could be broken down to 3 ratings 5.9+ 5.10+ and 5.11+. what else do you need ?

leave "sandbag" out of it. Your now a victim because the routes was to hard for you and your ego?
hailman

Trad climber
Ventura, CA
Aug 30, 2018 - 01:23pm PT
meat and potatoes of Coffin Nail, Tahquitz


PS. With respect to some of the ratings discussion above, it seems 5.0 to 5.3 are almost completely ignored these days. It's like scrambling continues through 5.3 (people say "oh it's easy fifth I just soloed it), and if you use a rope it's automatically 5.4 or higher.

Even the Mountain Project listings for Tahquitz are bogus. Both The Trough and White Maiden's are listed as 5.4. Thought they were 'the definition' of 5.0 and 5.1, respectively.......?

Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Aug 31, 2018 - 09:14am PT
of course, right there in my ancient copy of Williams "red" guide to the 'Gunks (bought in 1980), is the exact point that rgold makes, Baby is 5.6.

A good climb and a fine tribute to the first ascent party.

FA 1941: Fritz Wiessner, Mary Cecil, and Betty Woolsey.

Amazing symmetry, having done the climb 39 years after the FA, and discussing that ascent 38 years later.

hellroaring

Trad climber
San Francisco
Aug 31, 2018 - 01:21pm PT
Anyone out there have a photo of Sparerib in Gallatin Canyon Montana?
rgold

Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
Aug 31, 2018 - 01:53pm PT
Ah Steeple! Climbed it years ago. We didn't tunnel through and instead climbed an offwidth crack on the left side of the boulder that forms the roof of the tunnel. Why? I have no idea.

A major epic ensued when the weather came in while we were just starting the summit raps, a reminder that 5.8 can turn from mellow to hell-oh! in the mountains.

I wrote about it elsewhere on this site: http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/893158/A-walk-with-McCarthy-in-the-Winds
wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Aug 31, 2018 - 04:55pm PT
There is nothing like the Winds,IMO. Good Stuff.

Miss them,I am going to ski Gannett before ..... I have been close.
I will.It is a serious mixed climb, descent,a commitment.
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