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dee ee

Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
Mar 3, 2014 - 10:49am PT
Hey you guys, what do you think of the bill on the Orange-crowned in my previous post? It's kinda' on the large side, eh?
Timid TopRope

Social climber
the land of Pale Ale
Mar 3, 2014 - 11:23am PT
That doesn't look like an orange crowned warbler to me. I'm stumped, however. Reilly?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 3, 2014 - 11:29am PT
I agree, Timid, but I didn't want to admit my ignorance. The bill looks
more thrasherish, and it even looks like the end is hidden by a leaf, but
I've never seen a green thrasher. The body looks like a large finch's.
Maybe it's a Crossbilled Thrasher? I'm out. Willoughby? Buehler?
Darwin

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Mar 3, 2014 - 11:41am PT
Oriole, female Hooded- ? Just grasping at straws.
john hansen

climber
Mar 3, 2014 - 11:48am PT
The Bill looks more like a tanager...

Female Summer Tanager?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 3, 2014 - 12:00pm PT
John, I think you're a winner, and you might also be right.
But the bill still looks too big. Dee, can you tone down the contrast
and saturation a smidge? Oh, and remove that leaf?
Mike Bolte

Trad climber
Planet Earth
Mar 3, 2014 - 12:23pm PT
I think John is correct on the tanager.

A whole tree full of Cedar Waxwings yesterday.

Credit: Mike Bolte
Credit: Mike Bolte
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Mar 3, 2014 - 12:30pm PT
I say female Summer Tanager.

This fella was lurking around the hood today.

Credit: Bob D'A
dirt claud

Social climber
san diego,ca
Mar 3, 2014 - 02:53pm PT
Credit: dirt claud
Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
Mar 3, 2014 - 04:09pm PT
Just took a look at dee ee's mystery bird, and I have to say, I'm completely stumped. I can't square it with anything in my experience, and I'm suspecting it may be an escaped exotic.

It's no tanager, at least not one from North America. Nor is it an oriole that I can name, though that's a better fit in many ways. But they all have pretty clear wingbars. I can't tell if the bill is deformed, giving it that underbite, if it has something in its bill, giving it the mere appearance of an underbite, or if it's supposed to be that way.

Where in the heck was this? Any other photos of this bird? Is that a little orange on the cap, or an artifact of this particular image? I'm completely baffled by this bird, but so far I'd say all the votes above have missed the mark (unless this thing is a complete mutant in plumage as well as bill shape).
john hansen

climber
Mar 3, 2014 - 05:58pm PT
Yeah that bill is weird,,,
The top is shorter then the lower one.

little Z

Trad climber
un cafetal en Naranjo
Mar 3, 2014 - 06:38pm PT
I can buy dee ee's call of Orange-crowned Warbler. I think he'd know if it were something bigger like a tanager or oriole. Seems he was pretty close to the bird. The legs seem rather long and thin to be anything but a warbler. Wing-to-tail length, primary projection, pluamge pattern seem to match up well with OCW. Compare with this photo off the internet of OCW.

Orange-crowned Warbler <br/>
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http://www.bird-friends.com/BirdPage.php?n...
Orange-crowned Warbler

http://www.bird-friends.com/BirdPage.php?name=Orange-Crowned%20Warbler
Credit: little Z

I think the deal is that Dave's is an "action photo". Looks like the bird is in the process of drinking or swallowing something (water or nectar - you can see a droplet of liquid in the space between the top and bottom of bill) and so the tongue is in action, lower mandible protruded to allow the tongue to move. Think of it like chewing. Bird bills are also somewhat flexible and the obvious curve could be just a lucky photo of that moment when the bill is flexed a little. That, or the bill is moving enough to blur, but not as likely, as everything else in the image seems pretty sharp. Or it really is a deformed bill. OCWs do drink a lot of nectar on wintering grounds, and as a result can become stained by pollen, which may account for the blotchy orange patch on crown and above eye. Or the bird is just wet (3.7 inches of rain - yowzers!)
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Mar 3, 2014 - 06:55pm PT
Great to have the experts around. :-)

White-breasted Nuthatch on the afternoon walk.

Credit: Bob D'A
Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
Mar 3, 2014 - 08:19pm PT
I think Little Z is probably right, soaked bird (giving it that black-looking loral area), doing something VERY weird looking with it's bill. That also makes sense with that little orange patch showing through on the cap. Still looks peculiar standing tall like that, and truly seems like its bill is on sideways if it's an Orange-crowned. Maybe it's chewing its cud like a cow, or has a dislocated jaw. Who knows, but at least I can wrap this image around Orange-crowned Warbler, and it is surely the most likely suspect.

PS - Hard to guess folks' measure of size. Orchard Orioles can look absolutely dinky, and I've seen folks screw up immature White-crowned for various Spizella sparrows. Just sayin'.
CClarke

climber
La Paz, Bolivia
Mar 3, 2014 - 09:59pm PT
We went to Sorata for Carnaval and I got to do a little birding, but not much as it was a family trip.

A nice view of the west face of Huayna Potosi (just shy of 20,000') on the way there:

Credit: CClarke

Puna Ibis, a very common but still interesting bird:

Credit: CClarke

Two frolicking Yellow-billed Teals:

Credit: CClarke

Another view of the Cordillera Real:

Credit: CClarke

Sorata:

Credit: CClarke

White-winged Tyrant:

Credit: CClarke

Walking a bit above town:

Credit: CClarke

Black-backed Grosbeak:

Credit: CClarke

Carnaval:

Credit: CClarke

Wjhite-bellied Hummingbird:

Credit: CClarke

Cattle Egret:

Credit: CClarke

Darwin

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Mar 3, 2014 - 10:13pm PT
What a pleasure to be able to read your collective posts and thoughts. My Oriole guess was based on the bill shape, and I wasn't really happy with that. I like the swing back to Orange-crowned Warbler.


And Little-Z; the owls!!!!! Holy Mo-of-gd!
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Mar 3, 2014 - 10:37pm PT
Another stellar page! I really enjoyed the OCW discussion. My first thought is that it was weird looking, but had to get back to work. Great discussion for future ID fun.

The Ibis above is cra-razy! Big body on him. CClarke's photos make me want to start planning my next big birding adventure! The mountain photos help too. :)
dee ee

Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
Mar 4, 2014 - 10:19am PT
Thanks you guys for all the comments. Reilly, good eye on the brightness and contrast. I was trying to make it look as it did in rain lighting. My camera has a tendency to overexpose.

It was hopping around with another OCW and a House Wren.


I sent the photos over to one of our leading OC birders Doug Willick. He literally wrote the book on OC birding.
Here is what he had to say.


Hi David,



Yes, I would agree. Your Orange-crown definitely looks to have a bill deformity. The lower bill looks longer than the upper a little, but both appear maybe 50% longer than normal. With bill deformity it seems it usually involves bills that grown extra long, and in such cases they donít seem to grow straight, but will curve (often downwards like this but sometimes even sideways). Deformities like this are fairly rare but do happen with some regularity (and with almost any species of bird it seems). If a birder is in the field regularly, one can run into these bill deformities maybe once every few years or so. Canít recall if Iíve seen many warblers showing bill deformities, but seem to recall a Yellowthroat with an abnormally long bill some years ago. I remember a Northern Flicker that had a bill very similar to length and shape of a California Thrasher some time ago. Not sure what causes these deformities; would be interesting to investigate that.



Doug
dee ee

Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
Mar 4, 2014 - 10:26am PT
He's been hanging around the yard for a couple of days with his pals.
They love the runaway cherry tomato plant in my backyard.

That bill is freakishly huge!

Credit: dee ee

I guess OC Warblers are early migrants. They are all over the place right now. There is so much variability, they go from bright yellow to dark green with some very gray ones also.
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Mar 4, 2014 - 01:15pm PT
Cool stuff above.

I'm really starting to dislike Kingfishers, really hard to get a half decent shot of them.

On the walk this AM.

Credit: Bob D'A

American Tree Sparrow
American Tree Sparrow
Credit: Bob D'A
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