Classic Ice Primer- Chouinard Catalog 1968

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Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 23, 2013 - 08:27pm PT
An interesting thread on recurved pick tools started here...

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=2074941&tn=60

The Simond Chacal in 1975 is the front runner with the Lowe Elephant pick for suspense.

This looks to be an early model Chacal hopefully the first release.












The classic Simond markings.
RDB

Social climber
wa
Feb 23, 2013 - 08:40pm PT
Lowe pick came much later. That is a very late model Chacal...post '82 and near the end of production. The two holes in the handle and the black rubber shaft insulation all are indicators. The two, brass tube lined holes in the handle (one for a leash the other for an umbilical) the most clear indicators of age. A quick look through a Mountain Magazine adn Simond ad's campaign will give you a better idea of the exact age. But I know Climb High didn't import the 2 hole version until the Barracuda (adze version) showed up.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 23, 2013 - 08:44pm PT
Thanks for the dating Dane.

I am curious if the pick shape or detailing changed much by the time mine came out.

Do you have an early one?

Off to the Mountain mags otherwise.
RDB

Social climber
wa
Feb 23, 2013 - 08:56pm PT
I have earlier ones but not the first generation red handled and double spike one. I kept upgrading as the newest models were producted. I never appreciated the dbl spike (but would now as I would a Roosterheads dbl spike) and the full black rubber shafts and dbl holes were a good improvemt IMO. I still have my last pair and a couple of spares of differing lengths plus an axe. Same pair Simond gave away at the '79 Resembalance.
carlos gallego

Ice climber
Spain
Feb 24, 2013 - 06:52am PT
Stubai Nanga Parbat 1973. (handle modified)
Charlet Moser G 1975.
Peck Terrordactyl 1977.
B.D. Black Prophet 1996 ??? not sure. I owned years before de B.P. in black straight handle.
Credit: carlos gallego
RDB

Social climber
wa
Feb 24, 2013 - 02:19pm PT



Mark Force

Trad climber
Cave Creek, AZ
Oct 17, 2013 - 11:17pm PT
October Sierra ice gully bump
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 25, 2013 - 04:09pm PT
Runnel Bump...
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 8, 2014 - 06:21pm PT
Anyone know of or have access to a good classic shot of 60s/70s tools in action on Ben Nevis or Cairngorms in winter? I am aware of Yvon's book, of course but am looking in support of another fantastic book in progress.

Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 6, 2014 - 11:14am PT
Tis' the Season...
RDB

Social climber
wa
Dec 6, 2014 - 12:49pm PT
Alps, Spring '14
Alps, Spring '14
Credit: RDB
RDB

Social climber
wa
Feb 19, 2015 - 11:53pm PT
60 degrees here all last week. Hoping the temps are colder on the Midi next ;-)
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 20, 2015 - 01:02pm PT
Have a fantastic trip Dane!

I hope the ice is plentiful or come back and climb in the northeast where the phatness is everywhere I suspect and we are the only ones that are enjoying it besides the powderhounds.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 26, 2015 - 06:58pm PT
So how did it go Dane?

Sounds like it was a very good year for ice routes.
Spiny Norman

Social climber
Boring, Oregon
Dec 25, 2015 - 09:01pm PT
White Xmas bump.
carlos gallego

Ice climber
Spain
Dec 27, 2015 - 05:31am PT
In the "unknown" Spain (Sierra de Gredos)... very hard climbs (as scottish ones)... 1977/80 years; with terrordactyl ice axe and whillans harness, nice pullovers and crampon straps.
Actually WI5.

Credit: carlos gallego
scooter

climber
fist clamp
Dec 27, 2015 - 05:44am PT
I heard Erik Sloan is trying to reproduce this catalog.
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Dec 27, 2015 - 07:06am PT
Simond chacal was my go to tool in the 80's We never seemed to have matched pairs back then. i climbed with the Chacal, a humming bird and a 60cm chiounard ax w/ the blue fiberglass handel.
WI4 1985 Bristol VT Photo by Jud Thurston
WI4 1985 Bristol VT Photo by Jud Thurston
Credit: tradmanclimbs
looks like the Hummingbird is in my right hand so the Chacal most likly in my left.
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Dec 27, 2015 - 07:19am PT
I also had a Cassin Anteres twords the end of the eightys. that was Chacal knock off but the pick was not as good. Not shure what my 2nd tool is in this shot but definatly the Chacal in my left hand.
Odels gully 1985/86?
Odels gully 1985/86?
Credit: tradmanclimbs
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Dec 27, 2015 - 07:24am PT
The pick on the simond chacal was held in place by the one big bolt and 2 hardware store rolled pins. Several times over the years those pins broke leaving your pick wobbleing all over the place. It was a bit disconcerting to say the least.
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