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deuce4

Big Wall climber
the Southwest
Topic Author's Original Post - May 8, 2007 - 10:55am PT
Anybody remember the good old days when the Camp 4 parking lot had the nice wood cookspots?


Then, a few years later:

Check out Werner's old van in the first photo from 1980.
bachar

Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
May 8, 2007 - 11:12am PT
Yeah Deucy - those were the daze....then in the winter there was the Josh parking lot.

deuce4

Big Wall climber
the Southwest
Topic Author's Reply - May 8, 2007 - 11:15am PT
Pretty dapper gentlemen in that pic, Johnny B.
Watusi

Social climber
Joshua Tree, CA
May 8, 2007 - 11:40am PT
Pretty classic stuff there guys!
bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
May 8, 2007 - 11:55am PT
ho man, the too short shorts those guys are wearing made my eyes burn. those guys should get some long pants on, as it is they're gonna scare the chickens.
WBraun

climber
May 8, 2007 - 12:50pm PT
Fixed the bottom photo a little John.


And the yellow antifreeze bottle next to you; was back when you drink anti freeze to toughen up your system for the future.

No wonder you survived .....
Jay Wood

Trad climber
Fairfax, CA
May 8, 2007 - 01:11pm PT
Now it's all Subarus in the parking lot.
SammyLee

Trad climber
Memphis
May 8, 2007 - 01:43pm PT
That yellow VW. I used to have one of those and I called it the "Turd" because it was blunt on one end and tapered on the other.
scuffy b

climber
The town that Nature forgot to hate
May 8, 2007 - 02:23pm PT
Is that Pratt's Squareback in there?
Russ Walling

Social climber
Out on the sand.... man.....
May 8, 2007 - 02:26pm PT
I think that is Mike Popes
pyro

Big Wall climber
Ventura
May 8, 2007 - 03:05pm PT
what a proud moment! maybe the youth could learn something from these old folk!
Off White

climber
Tenino, WA
May 8, 2007 - 03:35pm PT
I was always partial to the Lodge lot as a home. Here's Galen sitting on the hood of his bug which he converted into a camper by yarding out the passenger seat and building a wooden locker that doubled as a bed. Too short shorts as a bonus for BVB.

Patrick Sawyer

climber
Originally California now Ireland
May 8, 2007 - 03:42pm PT
Most of you probably do not remember me from off and on from 1974-1977, as I wasn't a top climber or anything and would only hang out for a month or so at a time, though I have partied with some of you, but I'd bet some of you will remember a 1948 Ford pickup with a home-made wooden camper and a psychedelic paint job (from sanding it down through all the paint jobs it had over the years and then painting it over with shellac). Bridwell said he loved that truck. It sure got me pulled over enough times going from the Valley to the East Bay, especially in Manteca, Escalon and Oakdale.

Sure wish I could find a photo of that truck.
F10 Climber F11 Drinker

Trad climber
e350
May 8, 2007 - 03:43pm PT
I'm with Off White, preferred the Lodge parking lot. Didn't have to stagger across the road to check out happining's in the evening

deuce4

Big Wall climber
the Southwest
Topic Author's Reply - May 8, 2007 - 04:40pm PT
Name your automobile:



And a pic of Werner, and John Harpole.
Nefarius

Big Wall climber
Fresno, CA
May 8, 2007 - 05:07pm PT
"Here's Galen sitting on the hood of his bug" As in Rowell? Doesn't really look like him... Someone else?
deuce4

Big Wall climber
the Southwest
Topic Author's Reply - May 8, 2007 - 05:56pm PT
Walleye-

Wot a memory! Yep, that's my old VW van probably before it ever had an engine. What a great bivy that was.

That's Mugs Stump, Lynn (Mug's girlfriend at the time)and Steve Quinlan on the sedan. Steve and I had just finished climbing Tribal Rite in full-on winter conditions.
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
May 8, 2007 - 06:52pm PT
The picture of the wooden "benches" jogged my memory a bit for sure; I lived across the street in the Annex lot when those were last there.

I previously posted these shots from the early 80's back in the Mussy Nebula threads:

Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
May 8, 2007 - 06:53pm PT

Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
May 8, 2007 - 06:55pm PT


Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
May 8, 2007 - 06:56pm PT


Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
May 8, 2007 - 06:57pm PT


Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
May 8, 2007 - 07:01pm PT
Here's the only shot I have of the Annex Lot,
But it's a doosy; Leroy getting kicked out of Jane's van, while Watusi reaps the spoils, or canned tuna:


Glacier point, sort of a parking lot:


...and of course the winter venue:

Off White

climber
Tenino, WA
May 8, 2007 - 07:05pm PT
Nef, that's Kirkwood, not Rowell
WBraun

climber
May 8, 2007 - 09:08pm PT
I see Muggs stump and Steve Quinlan in one of those photos. The girl in the middle I forgot her name. She was in love with Muggsy.

Crimpergirl

Social climber
Hell on earth wondering what I did to deserve it
May 8, 2007 - 09:31pm PT
What a fun bunch of photos.
nita

climber
chico ca
May 8, 2007 - 09:46pm PT
Oh Man, Now I know who, Watusi is.. finally recognize him/you. ;-)
bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
May 8, 2007 - 09:57pm PT
galen kirkwood, possibly the best and most unheralded underground climber in the SoCal pantheon during the mid-70's. dude was f*#king swole, shunned attention, and climbed as hard or harder than any of us. best you respect, beotches.

i used to have an off white print of him sending the second or third ascent of california night in my files. gotta dig that sukker up....
nita

climber
chico ca
May 8, 2007 - 10:32pm PT
Wally, Are you kidding about the Red van? You should -know the answer.
Jaybro

Social climber
The West
May 8, 2007 - 11:40pm PT
I posted these before, but is seems appropo;




Couple of weekend warriors attempting to steal each other's van, I'm pretty sure.
Anguish

Mountain climber
Jackson Hole Wyo.
May 8, 2007 - 11:58pm PT
These photos need captions. I bet the VW squareback with black California plates is Pratt's. It made the annual trip to the Tetons for years.
T2

climber
Cardiff by the sea
May 8, 2007 - 11:58pm PT
I believe the girl you are refering to Werner that was giddy for Muggs is Lynn Ramono.
DHike

climber
May 9, 2007 - 12:24am PT
Tar, thanks for busting, Man, those are some of the most classic valley hardmen photos, ever.

Got Hair???
WBraun

climber
May 9, 2007 - 12:36am PT
And let's not forget this rad climber

MisterE

Social climber
Across town from Easy Street
May 9, 2007 - 12:40am PT
This thread is stellar.

Thanks all for making this place such a cut above.

Erik

edit: except the honorable WB (in this case) ;-P
Jaybro

Social climber
The West
May 9, 2007 - 01:49am PT
basheba, I think.
Raydog

Trad climber
Boulder Colorado
May 9, 2007 - 02:34am PT
parking lot photos are god - thanks for the thread, the grit (true) and the memories
nita

climber
chico ca
May 9, 2007 - 02:59am PT
Man, Somebody should scan, Cashners pictures. He has hundreds and hundreds, of great old pics.
nita

climber
chico ca
May 9, 2007 - 03:04am PT
What was wrong with the old garage?
deuce4

Big Wall climber
the Southwest
Topic Author's Reply - May 9, 2007 - 06:33pm PT
Found some more Yosemite Parking lot pics, mid 80's vintage:
Me and Walt after I locked my keys in the car:
Corbett and I forgot who:
Walter. Looks like Swilly Joe about to pass out on the right.
Yep, that's Chuck Clance. Jo-mamma in the background:
Shultzy:
The Hibiscus in his van:
Fish and CC3 playing chess. Stretch looking on:
Stretch, Eric Z., and Russ loitering around my VW:
"Check out the deucey rig," Russ used to say.
Rudy McNugget fligging the bird after I called him out to take a pic:
The usual cast: Just noticed they are looking at my book of "topos" with Walt, Werner, Coz, Eric Z., and Fish originals.
Me and Coz I think after we did the Beggar's Buttress together:
The incomparable Eric Z.:
Doe-mamma:
nita

climber
chico ca
May 9, 2007 - 06:41pm PT
deuce4, Who is the female- in the last pic?
Russ Walling

Social climber
Out on the sand.... man.....
May 9, 2007 - 06:51pm PT
wow....

Doe Duress I think Nita.....
Jaybro

Social climber
The West
May 9, 2007 - 07:19pm PT
I think I used to know the guy in the yellow shirt in #4.


What ever happened to Doe? I saw her @ TPR a while back.
K. Fosburg

Sport climber
park city, ut
May 9, 2007 - 08:40pm PT
Cool shots of Eric Z.! It's crazy how young everyone looks. Pretty sure that's Terry's VW squareback.
rlf

Trad climber
Josh, CA
May 9, 2007 - 08:47pm PT
WOW. Grant actually had hair???? Tucker informed me this morning that he also used to be able to see his d#$k as well...


He he he he he .........
Russ Walling

Social climber
Out on the sand.... man.....
May 9, 2007 - 08:50pm PT
yellow shirt in #4 looks like Chuck Clance
Jaybro

Social climber
The West
May 9, 2007 - 09:08pm PT
Chuck C, oh yeah.
marty(r)

climber
beneath the valley of ultravegans
May 9, 2007 - 09:35pm PT
Anyone have photos of Charles Cole's engine being rebuilt by Mark Chapman's borther (Wally?) I've heard that was quite an epic.
WBraun

climber
May 9, 2007 - 09:40pm PT
That was something, for sure. Walter Chapman rebuilt Charles engine in the parking lot dirt.

Yes sir eee, them's were the days. Now modern climbers don't know the difference between a screwdriver and a wench .....
Raydog

Trad climber
Boulder Colorado
May 9, 2007 - 10:05pm PT
those are killer shots - how 'bout Stretch? What a dude huh? FYI I saw Doe here in Boulder not so long ago - she works (as of a few months ago) nearly across the street from where I live, helping at risk teens - it was amazing running into her at Starbucks.
WBraun

climber
May 9, 2007 - 10:12pm PT
Yeah Stretch was the man 6'10 in a half inches tall. He had to duck to get into the cafeteria door. He had to duck all doors.

All kinds of girls always came up to him and asked him how's the air/weather up there.

He had that 44 magnum gun under his pillow. He said anyone going to mess with me will have nice hole between his eyes.

Them's were the days, when men knew what a screwdriver was and a wench could be had ......
Raydog

Trad climber
Boulder Colorado
May 9, 2007 - 10:22pm PT
Stretch once showed me his .44 in Ventura - a Ruger Super Redhawk- when we used to hang out there. We surfed at Silver Strand Oxnard, only time I went there. I think he seriously bailed to like Ohio or some place like that.
Russ Walling

Social climber
Out on the sand.... man.....
May 10, 2007 - 12:20am PT
Updates and clarifications:

Charles Cole had a Tercel that he never changed the oil in... ever... had like 75000 miles on it... decides to be nice to the engine and changes the oil. Forgot to put the oil cap back on after the change. Drives to the Valley, no oil left by the time he gets there... siezed! HOWIE Chapman rebuilds it in the Camp 4 lot.. the other Chapman (Walter?) is an accountant ( I think) and would knott know a wrench from a trombone.

Stretch: actual Iowa pig farmer... he has pics.... offshore welder for big $$$ when doing the work. Had a size 15 shoe, but a 1" pecker (made that part up.... I think) Real name, Steve Ortner. Had the Stretch Limo parked in camp for months.... some bad station wagon with a plywood sheet covering the entire back portion. He would lay in there like a corpse under the plywood and have us close the tailgate on him at night and then let him out in the morning.... the Tool could shine the flashlight into the the back of the Stretch Limo and see milk crates and climbing gear and dirty laundry.... little did they know that a giant was sleeping just under the false floor with barely enough room to breathe. Once when Tucker was bemoaning his sad and sorry life, Stretch had heard enough of the "I don't want to live" bullshiit.... so he grabs Tucker by the neck and plunges his head into the river and holds him under until it is understood that Tucker in fact wants to live... the giveaway was probably the wild thrashing for air and involuntary writhing by Tucker. Stretch lets him up and then tells him to STFU or he will end it for him right quick style. I think they then went back to drinking beer and talking about big walls or chicks or something...... pretty sure that last tale is true... any witnesses out there? Walt? ooops! He can't make it right now.....
Jaybro

Social climber
The West
May 10, 2007 - 12:36am PT
Hudson?
Raydog

Trad climber
Boulder Colorado
May 10, 2007 - 12:42am PT
Russ, I was there, did not witness the actual even but drank with those involved after - your retelling of this classic period tale is, as usual, brilliant. Yeah, Iowa, that's it - think he bought a house and stuff. Thanks.
WBraun

climber
May 10, 2007 - 12:44am PT
Howie like WTF? Well glad we got that cleared up.

But I love that one and the Tucker STFU or else one. Still too funny!

Then one night when Walt is on one his benders and tells Stretch that he wants to off himself. Stretch hands Walt the 44 magnum and tells Walt do it or STFU.

Walt starts doing that crazy laugh and pushes the gun back to Stretch. Stretch then tells me that it's confirmed that Walt's knott crazy .....

Russ do I have this right?
Russ Walling

Social climber
Out on the sand.... man.....
May 10, 2007 - 12:48am PT
Sounds right to me Werner... Stretch was always real "giving" to anyone interested in the afterlife. He was a facilitator to those who thought they need "facilitating". As is standard, nobody was really up for meeting the reaper, but if they were, Stretch was the man to help them out of this world.....
Raydog

Trad climber
Boulder Colorado
May 10, 2007 - 12:51am PT
LMAO!

note: Tucker was in a silly and very upbeat mood after Stretch almost drowned him FYI
WBraun

climber
May 10, 2007 - 12:52am PT
Yeah.

All glories to our great friend Stretch.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
May 10, 2007 - 08:35pm PT
What a load of ne'er do wells. I wonder if in twenty years we'll
look at what we're wearing today and laugh as hard.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Nov 13, 2008 - 03:01am PT
bump
survival

Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
Nov 13, 2008 - 11:04am PT
Killer bumps yer layin' down Ed.
Brings back so many good memories!
Bruce
Fletcher

Trad climber
Max V02
Nov 13, 2008 - 03:15pm PT
Rereading this thread is like when you happen upon an old favorite movie on TV and have to stop everything to watch it.

LMAO all over again over the Stretch dunking Tucker story... classic!

Thank you Ed for reviving the good side of SuperTaco via bumpination.

Fletch
Double D

climber
Nov 13, 2008 - 03:22pm PT
Racking for Sea of Dreams May, 1978 (Not Oct!)

sibylle

Trad climber
On the road again!
Nov 13, 2008 - 06:52pm PT
Racking up for the Triple Direct

Nefarius

Big Wall climber
somewhere without avatars.........
Nov 13, 2008 - 07:01pm PT
This thread is badass! Definitely had some good times in C4. Shared a campsite with the Hubers for a couple of months while they were working on Zodiac. Good times, for sure! Some of best memories, period, are in camp 4.

Too bad those days are over. It's all different there now. I don't think I've set foot in camp4 more than twice since I moved back to civilization 5 years ago or so. The vibe is different and it's just not worth the hassle... Bummer.
Mark Hudon

Trad climber
Hood River, OR
Nov 13, 2008 - 07:06pm PT
Max sitting around the parking lot with a few friends. 1979

Mark Hudon

Trad climber
Hood River, OR
Nov 13, 2008 - 07:12pm PT
This was after we did the Zodiac. November 3rd, 1977

Double D

climber
Nov 13, 2008 - 08:13pm PT
But Mark...what's up with the chain?
Mark Hudon

Trad climber
Hood River, OR
Nov 13, 2008 - 08:14pm PT
the 120 carabiners we used on the Zodiac. I forgot to mention that.
guido

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Nov 13, 2008 - 09:08pm PT
Mid 60's

McLean,Rowell, Laurie, Hennek, Sherrie, Malinda and Boche.

What's with the briefcase Galen?

Mike.

climber
Nov 13, 2008 - 09:47pm PT
Great photo, giudo.
survival

Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
Nov 13, 2008 - 10:10pm PT
Guido, you rule dude.
chez

Social climber
chicago ill
Nov 13, 2008 - 10:58pm PT
As Ned Guy recounts it,

Stretch grabbed Tucker and dragged him across the Sentinel Beach and dunked him. Clawing for his life.

Strech now lives with Uncle Eener in Iowa i think
Todd Gordon

Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
Nov 14, 2008 - 08:59am PT


Todd Gordon

Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
Nov 14, 2008 - 09:09am PT
Todd Gordon

Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
Nov 14, 2008 - 09:19am PT
Todd Gordon

Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
Nov 14, 2008 - 09:21am PT
One of my favorites.....

klk

Trad climber
cali
Nov 14, 2008 - 05:20pm PT
1981 or 82. Scott Young, Steve Monks, and Andy Burnham.

RIP buddy.

MisterE

Trad climber
My Inner Nut
Nov 15, 2008 - 12:48am PT
Climbing and history psyche bump
Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber
valley center, ca
Nov 15, 2008 - 01:09am PT
Yo, just a SUPER Shizzle Thread. Dang, now I need to go thru the boxes of photos and look for cars and parking lots....Saw old aquaintances and memories. Gracias, Joy and Peace.
JOEY.F

Social climber
sebastopol
Nov 15, 2008 - 01:11am PT
Not really climbing related, but:




1970 I believe,
thats mom.

Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber
valley center, ca
Nov 15, 2008 - 01:31am PT
Read this whole darn thread....better than alot of newspapers and novels they throw out today, right ?

Yo Gals, no one addressed the guys "short shorts issue in the thread". I personally vote yah ! for the short shorts and LONG legs....hehe, Lynnie
MisterE

Trad climber
My Inner Nut
Nov 15, 2008 - 01:43am PT
Anybody recognize this guy?



photo courtesy of PH
Ihateplastic

Trad climber
Lake Oswego, Oregon
Nov 15, 2008 - 08:54pm PT
The man is a poet who once wrote, "You can grunt and heave, sweat and strain, wear yourself out, and unless you simply forget about it and step up, you won't even get off the ground."

Another quote that Werner will enjoy, "It's so good and wonderful and so other-earth-other-sky transcendentally different in Yosemite that I could spend a dozen karmic cycles there and not exhaust the place."

The man is Mike Borghoff
Ihateplastic

Trad climber
Lake Oswego, Oregon
Nov 16, 2008 - 01:47am PT
Here's a couple of the C4 lot from the mid '70's.



Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Nov 16, 2008 - 02:09pm PT
Nobody famous, just 3 friends (February 1969), but it's a meaningful photo for me.
The next day I almost got killed.

Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber
valley center, ca
Nov 16, 2008 - 02:54pm PT
Here's an old one deuce4. Think it's a campground area near The Needles, CA. circa 80-82 Seth Leichtfuss, aka, lunchbox is listening to the big dudes spew. Anyone identify the other guys. Must have known them .... I let my kiddo hang with them. :D


deuce4

climber
Hobart, Australia
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 16, 2008 - 03:16pm PT
Not exactly parking lot shots, but a snapshot of the Zion hang, late 80's early 90's:


















Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber
valley center, ca
Nov 16, 2008 - 03:42pm PT
Thanks Walleye, It must have been a big trip as I note both our family vehicles in the parking lot. The big b&w van with another kiddo sitting in door, and the red chevy truck with Dan sitting in back ! : ))

Should have had tshirts made....Mom and Dad brought me this shirt from another parking lot we slept in. hahaha
chris a malcolm

Mountain climber
centennial, co
Nov 16, 2008 - 04:14pm PT
Deuce4, is that house where topos were drawn on the ceiling?
Fletcher

Trad climber
Max V02
Nov 16, 2008 - 06:22pm PT
Love the mud-filled swimming pool, John.

Fletch
Captain...or Skully

Social climber
Boise
Nov 16, 2008 - 06:26pm PT
I was gonna chime in there, too.....
Awesome pool, Deucey!


No pool parties at your house!
WBraun

climber
Nov 16, 2008 - 08:11pm PT
That pool

Is the dirtbag pool.

One lap and your in the club ....
Mimi

climber
Nov 16, 2008 - 08:19pm PT
Circa 1986. High stakes.

deuce4

climber
Hobart, Australia
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 16, 2008 - 09:07pm PT
Yep, that's the Rock House. Fantastic tree house, parties in the back, topos all over the walls, everybody welcome. The Todd Gordon house of Zion. But alas, no longer.

That pool was right after a huge landslide, Mark Austin lost his house.

Nice old pic, Mimi! Fish and Tucker and me, but who is the fellow on the left?
Mtnmun

Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
Nov 16, 2008 - 11:28pm PT
Mimi

climber
Nov 16, 2008 - 11:29pm PT
That's Junior, John. Terry Ayers. In SoCal and still pulling down hard.
Sir loin of leisure...

Trad climber
X
Nov 16, 2008 - 11:42pm PT
your looking pretty good bent over like that werner..
Sir loin of leisure...

Trad climber
X
Nov 16, 2008 - 11:53pm PT
OH MON
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Nov 17, 2008 - 08:10am PT
Great photo Chiloe. You cannot see the Ahwahnee Hotel from that view anymore as the
forest is too thick.


Thanks, Walleye. When I posted it I was thinking the photo could have been taken any
time. I didn't realize that it actually did include some historical info.
klk

Trad climber
cali
Nov 17, 2008 - 11:21am PT
Tami: "Andy Burnham! Ex-pat Brit we used to say "Andy Burnham Glows In the Dark " 'cos he worked at TRIUMF - the tri-universities meson facility - the partical accelerator located on the UBC campus west of Vancouver.
Andy died in a fall on Meatgrinder ( IIRC)"

Yeah, Andy worked at UBC for years, anything to keep from going back to England. But he didn't die on Meatgrinder. He'd done Red Zinger and then set up a tr on a nearby 5.12 and slipped while climbing back down to the ledge.

1988? '89? I never read the ANAM.
justthemaid

climber
Los Angeles
Nov 17, 2008 - 11:34am PT
Great thread. Thanks for posting everyone.
Kiwiclimber

Ice climber
Kiruna, Sweden
Dec 1, 2008 - 10:11am PT
Here's my contribution - packing for Sth Face of Watkins in April 1980:
Swifter

Social climber
Flagstaff, AZ
Dec 1, 2008 - 01:59pm PT
Most mountain hardware has improved over the years, but I'll still retain my prejudice in favor of 1950's vintage wheels. Photo at: http://bswifter.net/gallery/climbing/CLgallery1Yos.html#img/sortout4.jpg
Captain...or Skully

Social climber
Where are YOU from?
Dec 1, 2008 - 02:10pm PT
Awesome history shots,Swifter.....The 'Old Dads' were the HardMen.
Don't make 'em like that anymore......
Fletcher

Trad climber
the campfire just a ways past Chris' Taco stand
Dec 1, 2008 - 02:11pm PT
Wow, Swifter... those photos blew me away this morning.

Fletch
Indianclimber

Trad climber
Lost Wages
Dec 1, 2008 - 02:12pm PT
Great pics Swifter Thanks
Mike.

climber
Dec 1, 2008 - 03:49pm PT
Gotta bump Swifter's link...fantastic shots!



Thanks, Swifter:
http://bswifter.net/gallery/climbing/CLgallery1Yos.html#img/sortout4.jpg
Nefarius

Big Wall climber
somewhere without avatars.........
Dec 1, 2008 - 03:49pm PT
Awesome gallery, Swifter! Thanks!
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Dec 1, 2008 - 11:13pm PT
Bump Bump Bump
!!!!BUMP!!!!

As noted up thread, Swifter's site,
This is a must-see:

http://bswifter.net/gallery/climbing/CLgallery1Yos.html#img/sortout4.jpg

http://bswifter.net/gallery/climbing/home.html
Jaybro

Social climber
wuz real!
Dec 1, 2008 - 11:16pm PT
thanks for the links!
Chicken Skinner

Trad climber
Yosemite
Dec 1, 2008 - 11:39pm PT
You all probably know this already: Swifter = Bob Swift. I have some of his photos on the YCA site and they are the definition of classic.

Ken

P.S.
Here is another classic parking lot photo. Guess who?
Risk

Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
Dec 2, 2008 - 01:59am PT
John Salathe and Ax Nelson
richross

Trad climber
gunks,ny
Dec 2, 2008 - 04:10am PT
Rich Romano, Gunks parking 1975.
Jaybro

Social climber
wuz real!
Dec 2, 2008 - 04:42am PT
"I believe I met the guy with the tuna can"

You met Watusi?


(I thought it looked like a 'spro cup)
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Dec 2, 2008 - 09:45am PT
I thought for sure she was talking about Cilley.
(She probably just forgot exactly who was holding the tuna can)
Leroy is never too stingy with the sting of his wit!
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Dec 2, 2008 - 09:54am PT
I mean really, of all the "ambassadors" whom Lois might have run into in the Valley, back in the day!!!
That is just too perfect (and it is a tuna can that Watusi is holding).

But Lois "crossing swords" with Dr. Cilley,
hahahahahahahahaha.
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Dec 2, 2008 - 10:25am PT
Lynne's photo up thread; that is Tuolumne store parking lot, not the Needles of California.

Here's another:
Tarbuster, Dick Cilley, Scott Cosgrove...

Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Dec 2, 2008 - 10:31am PT
And whether she did or didn't,
This is the guy LEB really needed to meet, BITD:


Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Dec 2, 2008 - 01:42pm PT
All three photos taken in the parking lot of the gas station at Tuolumne Meadows:

TM Herbert and Steve Sutton:



Vern Clevenger:




Tom Carter and Al Roberts

Jaybro

Social climber
wuz real!
Dec 2, 2008 - 03:24pm PT
I think for the sake of posterity, we should assume it was Cilley. Mike could have been there too. We could make a whole legend out of this...


Here he is with Wendy, but I think he's looking at Lois.

This might be in the Peralta trailhead parking lot, so it's on topic.
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Dec 2, 2008 - 04:47pm PT
I am going to guess that I snapped that photo around '86.

I don't know about the Volvo; maybe it was a loaner and Vern and Margaret were using for a spell...
But do check out Donny Reid's super hip big blue cruiser!
Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Dec 2, 2008 - 04:59pm PT
Lynne,

Your photo:

is not near the Needles - it is in the parking lot of the Tuolumne Meadows store.
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Dec 2, 2008 - 05:07pm PT
Also in Tuolumne gas station lot...

Nadime:



Hawkins and Fiddler:



Bachar:

Jaybro

Social climber
wuz real!
Dec 2, 2008 - 05:08pm PT
To steal a Waltism™,


the studs, and,


the dud.







a different

parking lot
Jaybro

Social climber
wuz real!
Dec 3, 2008 - 01:34am PT
I don't think it's giving away the store at this time to reveal that Watusi=Mike Paul, heir to the fishstick fortune, if I'm not mistaken...though a very sincere person, he has a quick wit about him, and we were all young back then...
dickcilley

Social climber
A cova Dos Nenos
Dec 3, 2008 - 08:54am PT
Wasn´t me.Really doesn´t sound like Mike.He´s normaly very polite.Someone should fess up.I love a mystery.
Jaybro

Social climber
wuz real!
Dec 3, 2008 - 05:05pm PT
When are you making the passage back to the new world, cave dweller?

The animal guy was askin'. He needs to work on his stretching.
Watusi

Social climber
Newport, OR
Dec 3, 2008 - 07:28pm PT
Wow, I certainly don't recall anything like that...As Leroy stated I am generally very well behaved! Maybe you could post a picture of yourself...That might help me, and maybe more particulars about this said, "incident" Here's a more modern shot of me at one of our gigs so that you might get a better look...
Watusi

Social climber
Newport, OR
Dec 3, 2008 - 07:37pm PT
Actually after rereading this account, as some of you recall in 1988 I had an accident that injured me and I couldn't have been in Yosemite as I was convalescing in Joshua Tree until mid '89. I also hadn't climbed in Yosemite much after '85/6 or so...
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Dec 3, 2008 - 11:27pm PT
Well under the right, or wrong as it were, circumstances Watusi wouldn't be lacking in sharp wit, but the reserved gentle natured man is the one I know most likely to be found in public.

Now Leroy (Mr. Cilley) as a man on the make I might buy.
But we've heard from him and his word is good.

Yes we love a good mystery!
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Dec 3, 2008 - 11:29pm PT
Russ Walling, van mechanic, Yosemite Lodge lot early, early 80s



Russ Walling, van mechanic, Hueco campsite parking lot, early 90s

Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Dec 3, 2008 - 11:36pm PT
Tarbuster and Rudy Vander Twinkle,
Joshua Tree B Loop, 1987:

chez

Social climber
chicago ill
Dec 3, 2008 - 11:52pm PT
that's ned guy in post #158 next to Rudy McMethane.
and Uncle Ned again next to Nadime in the celica that Ned almost killed me in back in Illinois in a head on collision that ended up with the transmission in the front seat.
WBraun

climber
Dec 3, 2008 - 11:57pm PT
Why is he hand traversing?

One needs only to walk across. It's the noble way.

Hand traversing here is cave man style ......
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Dec 4, 2008 - 12:11am PT
I do not know what parking lot this is from.
I snagged the photo off of the Fish compound bulletin board back when it was outside of Bishop.

Here we have Chez, Driver, and the Butthead:

Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Dec 4, 2008 - 08:47pm PT
Tuolumne store parking lot 1986:

Bee Hay, Dick Cilley, Shelley Presson Dunbar, "E", unknown blond guy:
(look how nice 'n twisted E looks...heh)



John Rosholt, Shelley, Mike & Brenda Waugh....
Maybe a guy named Jim?


Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Dec 4, 2008 - 10:16pm PT
Bruce Hawkins and Tom Carter, 1987/1988
Some Dead Man area parking lot; maybe the Lion's Den:

WBraun

climber
Dec 4, 2008 - 10:22pm PT
This whole thread, people in parking lots. WTF?

This is the modern world "Parking lots"

Where's my my gawd damn cow so I can grow some carrots in those wasted space of "Parking lots".
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Dec 4, 2008 - 10:27pm PT
It's parked over by your neighbor's big-screen TV.
.......Grazing on nutritious advertising.
marty(r)

climber
beneath the valley of ultravegans
Dec 4, 2008 - 10:34pm PT
Damn, that first van repair shot of Mussy is the most Tom Baker/Dr.
Who image yet!
Jaybro

Social climber
wuz real!
Dec 5, 2008 - 01:06am PT
Add a long scarf and a Tardis and who else could it be?

on the other hand, I took this shot of Russ, Sooze and Cracker the other day, and don't really see the resemblence

Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Dec 5, 2008 - 02:04pm PT
Russ used to be a machinist.

His employer once asked that he set himself up with a nice set of brass hammers.
In response he took an old chunk of metal, like a twisted piece of bicycle handlebar or something, wrapped it with some athletic tape and made do with that just to spite them.

He called it the “Mangler”….
deuce4

climber
Hobart, Australia
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 5, 2008 - 03:41pm PT
I like the "before" and "after" of Mussy as Mechanic. First one, tools spewn all over, chaos reigns. The next, all tidy and shizz.

Of course, paralleling the rise from Camp 4 rugrat to Bastion of Society™
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Dec 5, 2008 - 04:35pm PT
And note:
In the first MussyMechanic™ snapshot, even the SLIDE has grease on it!
Off White

climber
Tenino, WA
Dec 5, 2008 - 06:09pm PT
Tarbousier said: "Bee Hay, Dick Cilley, Shelley Presson Dunbar, "E", unknown blond guy:"


I'm almost certain the unknown blond guy is Steve Amter, I knew him in Tucson in the mid 80's, he later moved to the DC area where I hear he still is. Grossman could confirm identity.

I'm not buying Watusi as LEB's lout, it just doesn't much sound like Mike.
richross

Trad climber
gunks,ny
Dec 5, 2008 - 06:48pm PT
I thought the blond guy was Steve Amter too. I know him from the Gunks in the mid 70's. He was at the Gunks reunion in October. Here he is in the far left of this photo at Rock and Snow for the Vulgarian panel. Hey Dick Cilley, I remember you from your visits to the Gunks.

Jaybro

Social climber
wuz real!
Dec 5, 2008 - 06:54pm PT
I know what you mean, Off, but wondered if some of the humor we take for granted, could be interpreted in a different way by a chance encouneree?
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Dec 5, 2008 - 11:45pm PT
Hey richross?
Who's that tasty lookin' cute chick in your photo?



Tarboussier,
Puttin' a mean rack of nuts together, Caveman site parking lot, JT, winter 75/76:


photo Larry Stone
Jaybro

Social climber
wuz real!
Dec 5, 2008 - 11:57pm PT
Vera Komarkova
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Dec 6, 2008 - 12:37am PT
Vera:
She 'dat russian doll who used calf splints for edging?
Captain...or Skully

Social climber
Where are YOU from?
Dec 6, 2008 - 01:25am PT
." He was probably pissed off at something I said or did."



No! knot possible.
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Dec 6, 2008 - 02:00am PT
I dunno Lois...


Here's the 'Tusi in a parking lot,
Baja Cali, on the way to Gran Trono Blanco 1982,
Stopped at the local Metalurgica to pick up some chalk:

richross

Trad climber
gunks,ny
Dec 6, 2008 - 02:00am PT
Tarbuster and Jaybro,You know Vera? She climbs vera well.

Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Dec 6, 2008 - 02:02am PT
It kind of looks like he's EATING the chalk. Must have a different kind in Mexico.
deuce4

climber
Hobart, Australia
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 6, 2008 - 05:01am PT
name that parking lot:




BrassNuts

Trad climber
Boulder Colorado
Dec 6, 2008 - 11:55am PT
The Yo Lodge parking lot in September '83. Johnny Woodward (sitting on pavement) Walt Shipley (on bike) and others milling about...
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Dec 6, 2008 - 11:58am PT
Can't see Woody?
But Shipley on his bike, left side of frame...
(edit) gotcha...I see the British school marm shoes.
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Dec 6, 2008 - 11:59am PT
Deuce:
Trees in the B&W look like Canon Tajo P. Lot
WBraun

climber
Dec 6, 2008 - 12:33pm PT
Mexican climbing team in that big group.

Dimitree talking to Walt?
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Dec 6, 2008 - 12:50pm PT
WBraun

climber
Dec 6, 2008 - 12:59pm PT
Tar

I'm going to the Cookie now, meet us there .....
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Dec 6, 2008 - 01:12pm PT
In the not too distant future Werner,
We'll be able to claw our way right into these pictures!

If that were the deal today, I would join you; but I'm going ski touring right now instead...
Have fun with them cracks!!!

Mimi

climber
Dec 6, 2008 - 01:15pm PT
Yeah, WB, have a great time today!

That's not Meatie, WB. Not sure who that is. Kinda resembles Leclinsky (sp?).

For further clarification on the CColonmobile saga. When I first met the Colon, he was concerned about his car probably because it was beginning to rebel against the total lack of care he was giving it. Not to mention how bad it smelled because of his feet, but that's another story.

I asked him if he changed the oil regularly and he said a prof at USC told him it was not necessary to ever have to change the oil in a car. I and a few others around were shocked, of course, and highly recommended that he do so when he got to town next time. Well, Russ and WB provided the rest of the story. CColon actually chastised me for his folly and said if he wouldn't have changed the oil, the engine never would've blown. LOL
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Dec 6, 2008 - 03:58pm PT
A classic shot from Wolfgang Gullich's biography A Life in the Vertical, 1994.


From left to right; me, Yabo, Lynn, Bullwinkle and ?
mastadon

Trad climber
Tahoe
Dec 6, 2008 - 08:20pm PT
Must have been the early 80's. I think Ron was preening up for one of his TV gigs. WBraun in the background prepping for whatever.....


Timson early March, mid 70's. We were the only people living in C4. Pretty grim lifestyle.


Anyone remember Mark Moore? Mid 70's, C4 lot.


Stephanie Atwood, C4 mid 70's.











Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Dec 6, 2008 - 10:10pm PT
Darnit' that Kauk feller is cute.
I may haftah switch teams.

That's when he had the Opel; you can just make out the defining tail lights.
mastadon

Trad climber
Tahoe
Dec 6, 2008 - 10:20pm PT
Mr Tarbaby, before you switch sides you might want to check this out. I bet you remember these features.....
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Dec 6, 2008 - 10:43pm PT
okokokok I'm back.
Who is that!
Wait-a-half-second: It's Mary D!!!

Even her lats are cute...
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Dec 6, 2008 - 11:02pm PT
BRANDED!
"What can you do when your branded..."
(then they bust' up his sword & toss it...r'member?)
Steven Amter

climber
Washington, DC
Dec 19, 2008 - 06:00pm PT
I just wanted to confirm that OffWhite and Rich Romano are correct: that is me (Steve Amter) in the photo (unknown blond dude). I was either there climbing with Dave Sessions (son of the old guidebook author), Dick Cilley, John Sherman, or my old Gunks partner Andrew Kaplan (who was also at the Gunks reunion). In 1986, I was living in Tucson and making occasional trips to J Tree and Yosemite. Good times.

Offwhite, who are you? Did we climb in Tucson?

Steven Amter

climber
Washington, DC
Dec 19, 2008 - 06:09pm PT
Oops- I did not read carefully enough. I meant to say Richie Ross in my last post (Sorry amigo).
Loomis

climber
*_*
Dec 20, 2008 - 11:00pm PT
Ahwahnee parking lot Yosemite, California
Mike Fogarty and I brewing up coffee before an ascent of the Prow. 1983
Russ Walling

Social climber
Upper Fupa, North Dakota
Dec 20, 2008 - 11:14pm PT

My guess: Duane Raleigh with Walt. Looks like my van (or Schultzs') and Too_Tall's rig further back. The timeframe is just about right for the pairing.
rich sims

Trad climber
co
Dec 21, 2008 - 01:00am PT
79 racking up for RNWF another blue VW
deuce4

climber
Hobart, Australia
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 22, 2008 - 03:40pm PT
That photo of Walt on his bike: It looks more like Dimitri to me. And is that Lydia the pocket Russian in the background? (She was actually from Yugoslavia). Those red pants and bright clothes were her standard.

She's racking for one of those routes on the right side of El Cap...
bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Dec 22, 2008 - 04:22pm PT
yeah john, that's definately canon tajo. you can just make out "a farewell to arms" in the upper center of the pic, on the huge block sitting up on the slabs...

deuce4

climber
Hobart, Australia
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 22, 2008 - 04:27pm PT
yep, the Canon Tajo parking lot. Booming with social activity!

Bob, did y'all go to Josh for T-day this year? Any stories of pulling off the pigpen with army boots?

cheers
bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Dec 22, 2008 - 04:36pm PT
no john, we all just hunkered down this year. but by about mid-day on thanksgiving the international switchboards lit up as we all started calling one another to gripe about how unnatural is felt to not be in josh for thanksgiving. we all vowed to go next year. this was the fifth time i've missed t-day in josh in the last 34 years. definately going next year, no matter how bad the weather forcast looks...
dickcilley

Social climber
A cova Dos Nenos
Dec 23, 2008 - 08:52am PT
Rich Sims ,You gotta have more photos.Post Up.What was the name of the girl on your left?
Maysho

climber
Truckee, CA
Dec 23, 2008 - 10:08am PT
Woman in the center of Rich Sims pic, looks a lot like Lisa Issacs, who used to be around the scene in the 70's. I stayed with her last week in Mammoth where she is now runs the environmental office of Mammoth Mountain.

Peter
dickcilley

Social climber
A cova Dos Nenos
Dec 23, 2008 - 10:35am PT
I think your right Peter.
Steven Amter

climber
Washington, DC
Dec 29, 2008 - 01:06pm PT
A comment on Tarbuster's Dec. 4 second photo and caption ("John Rosholt, Shelley, Mike & Brenda Waugh.... Maybe a guy named Jim?"):

I'm pretty sure the standing guy with the biking cap is my climbing partner Andrew Kaplan, gunks climber and ace bike racer from NYC.




Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Dec 29, 2008 - 06:31pm PT
Off White lives in Tenino, WA not far from Olympia. I see him fairly often.
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Dec 30, 2008 - 02:30am PT
Steven Ampter,

It's amazing how productive this forum is at collecting people!
A couple of years ago when I first posted that photo which you are in, we were wondering...

As to the second one, with Mike and Brenda Waugh, I'm not so sure about your guess.
Jan Mcollum (sp) AKA G_Gnome, said he knew that guy and I believe he was from San Fernando Valley California.

Not that I know or remember anything,
Mostly I just took pictures and caused mischief!!!

Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Dec 30, 2008 - 02:44am PT
These two shots are a little bit sad...

Billy Westbay, his wife Angela (both gone now) & Ceto Kirkpatrick,
'Lodge lot doing a little Hack Sack:




Dave Schultz and Kurt Albert (prone),
Shortly after Wolfgang Gullich died,

Dave was demonstrating a pretty cool rigger's trick;
Putting a figure 8 knot into a rope, with one hand & only the flick of the wrist:

east side underground

Trad climber
Hilton crk,ca
Dec 30, 2008 - 12:00pm PT
is that uncle ned with his back to the camera? Back in the day when he was fit-hehehe
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Dec 30, 2008 - 12:39pm PT
Well it is not Ned Guy (Keith Guy) if that's who you're thinking.
I would've remembered him being there, otherwise I haven't a clue...
Possibly some uber-bricked German fellah.

Time to crank up the "who's back is that?" machine.
Chicken Skinner

Trad climber
Yosemite
Dec 30, 2008 - 01:28pm PT
It looked like Keith to me too.

Ken
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Dec 30, 2008 - 01:36pm PT
I just knew Wally would tag the Bill Russell transport.
Both of these photos were taken in the 90s, so I don't think Keith Guy for that reason alone.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Dec 30, 2008 - 08:31pm PT
I ain't lyin'
Can you wash it off, do you suppose?!?
Captain...or Skully

Trad climber
North of the Owyhees
Dec 30, 2008 - 09:07pm PT
Kinda looks like during chillin'...
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Dec 30, 2008 - 10:31pm PT
Nice one, Walleye!
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Dec 30, 2008 - 10:33pm PT
You are a class act Mr. Wally.

Hey, doesn't Bill Russell, I mean isn't he starting to look like Harvey Keitel?
Steven Amter

climber
Washington, DC
Jan 4, 2009 - 06:37pm PT
Tarbuster:

You're probably right - Andrew Kaplan says he doesn't think that's him in the photo.

Sir loin of leisure...

Trad climber
X
Jan 4, 2009 - 06:41pm PT
swillium is runnin some sorta camel toe thing there...interesting...
survival

Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
Jan 4, 2009 - 06:47pm PT
Freekin' walleye...I just about spit up a lung when I saw that one!!!

Tar, you're right about Bill R!
Bad Lt. era isn't it?
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Jan 4, 2009 - 09:39pm PT
Swilliam Russel a.k.a. The Bad Lieutenant ... standing (or something) proud on camel toes.

rich sims

Trad climber
co
Jan 5, 2009 - 01:14am PT
Dick Peter
The Gal in the middle is Melanie. I met them when Cliff Howard another guy Jim (maybe) and I were hiking up to do the Lost Arrow Tip. I saw two gals taking pictures of each other at the top of Yose Falls and told the guys I would catch up.
I hiked over to offer to take pictures of them together.
This led to both of them hiking over with me to watch.
That led two non climbers to the top of the Arrows tip.
Then the Ahawanee Sweet Shop and some climbs at Manure Pile.
They were so kind a few days later to meet Cliff and me topping out on Half Dome.
Melanie and I remained friends for a number of years. Her mom and Dad were really cool.
I was just in contact with her last September. Yes Dick she remembered you and was at my cooking (Lodge parking under the trees area) when Cliff , Yabo and someone , maybe Bard had a hot sauce drinking contest.
She was surfing for an event in Yosemite and stumbled on ST. She was scrolling posts and saw my name and thought I wonder? So she emailed me and we caught up on the past twenty five years.


Linda is still good friends with Melanie
Cliff is Linda showing her how it would work


Melanie Sanders


Dick the first climb we ever did
Leroy

climber
Jan 5, 2009 - 08:32am PT
Great stuff Rich,Check out the 1 in. legloops.
Captain...or Skully

Trad climber
North of the Owyhees
Jan 5, 2009 - 09:17am PT
I like the Crown Royal bag on his harness.
Styley!
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Jan 5, 2009 - 11:18am PT
Cool shot of Mr Cilley on lead there!
What the heck is that? Something at Arch Rock?
ktmt

Sport climber
Montana
Jan 8, 2009 - 04:25pm PT
Great shots and memories. But what's the parking lot without a shot of Fish's GKBH impaled on his bus’s antenna? Someone's gotta have one of those in their archives.
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Jan 8, 2009 - 04:30pm PT
Oh yeah, must be Midterm...
TrundleBum

Trad climber
Las Vegas
Jan 8, 2009 - 04:44pm PT
Midterm, sure?
looks like 'English Breakfast' at a funny angle.
Nefarius

Big Wall climber
somewhere without avatars.........
Jan 8, 2009 - 05:43pm PT
I was thinking Leanie Meanie at a funny angle... Been a while though.
mastadon

Trad climber
Tahoe
Jan 11, 2009 - 08:44pm PT

The man, the myth, the legend....

nita

climber
chica from chico, I don't claim to be a daisy
Jan 11, 2009 - 08:45pm PT
Jesus Christ.....I like your style...Back in my day -I was a animal i tell you..

hey buddy...



mastadon

Trad climber
Tahoe
Jan 11, 2009 - 09:20pm PT

Nick was a f*#king animal in his 70's, I can only imagine what he was like when he was younger.
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Jan 11, 2009 - 09:54pm PT
a YOUNG NICK???
Oh Please,
He wud'v taken it ALL from us, plus a few slaps for good learnin'...
Lacey

Social climber
Boise, Idaho
Jan 11, 2009 - 10:38pm PT
Remember the story of Nick getting attacked on the head by a crow on the way up to one of the high camps..... God love the guy.... He would always be in his robe going to take a shower when I was on my way to work at TM lodge... "Looking good" he'd always say.....
Off White

climber
Tenino, WA
Jan 12, 2009 - 11:50pm PT
Steve Amter said: "Offwhite, who are you? Did we climb in Tucson?"

Yup, and I went by Off White back then too. Here's a photo from 1985, maybe 6 months before Faith & I (with then-little-Ben) moved to Tucson. It's even a parking lot of sorts that a number of Supertacos have been to, so it's even on topic.


You and I did FIUTT and Desire one day in Tucson. You led Desire and must have thought I was looking a little iffy, since you set up a sling shot top rope and ran the rope straight through a 1" sling, perhaps not feeling confident I would make the anchor and not wanting to lose any carabiners? Hah, that might be why I remember it so clearly. We hung out at parties (Davidson's, Jimmerson's, etc) and Beanfests & such as well.

Good to hear you're still out there!
drljefe

climber
Toostoned, AZ
Jan 13, 2009 - 12:01am PT
Damn, Tucson, and Arizona are "hot" topics these days!
F*#k It Use The Tree!
Steven Amter

climber
Washington, DC
Feb 6, 2009 - 11:58am PT
Off: how are you?

I pulled out my old copy of Steiger's guidebook and DAMN, I had notations for climbing both Desire and FIUTT with you. Good times!

I have no recollections for setting up a sketchy belay system - if I did rig it to lower on a bare runner(!), a safety no no, I was an A-hole!

Steve

Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Sep 1, 2009 - 10:21am PT
Bump your AZZZZZ!
MisterE

Social climber
Bouncy Tiggerville
Dec 3, 2010 - 07:35pm PT
Bump for a classic.
Funk 29

Trad climber
Wallowa, OR
Dec 3, 2010 - 09:24pm PT
Awesome thread Deuce. Love the History in photos!
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Jan 2, 2011 - 02:00pm PT
Another nostalgic Camp 4 thread...

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1172273/Old-Camp-Four-etc-Photos
Chief

climber
The NW edge of The Hudson Bay
Jan 2, 2011 - 02:39pm PT
Bump for a great thread John, just saw it for the first time.
It's hard to believe all that time's gone by.
Glad to have been there.

PB
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
May 13, 2011 - 01:21am PT
Nostagia Bump!
tom Carter

Social climber
May 13, 2011 - 02:42am PT
Thanks Steve I thought I saw a thread somewhere back there.....


It used to be sooooo empty.

I must admit there was a section down? Up thread that is priceless. Mine do not compare, but they are frozen moments of an amazing time.
mastadon

Trad climber
crack addict
May 13, 2011 - 08:51am PT


Mr Carter Sir,

That's gotta be Lucy and Virginia..
Is that Vern in the background?? Great photo! Love your old Opel.

You're really pulling out some golden oldies!
tom Carter

Social climber
May 13, 2011 - 08:11pm PT

Name these two.

Haul bag by...?

Copy of C4B's

mastadon

Trad climber
crack addict
May 13, 2011 - 09:23pm PT

I know! I know!

Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
May 13, 2011 - 09:45pm PT
Buttermilk Mountain Works?
guido

Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
May 13, 2011 - 09:45pm PT
Jeeeez Tommy lad, I remember that pumpkin of an Opel leaking gas all over the place. At $4.00 + you would probably have to take care of that leak in the reality of today.

cheers Guido
tom Carter

Social climber
May 15, 2011 - 03:40pm PT
Lot of stuff happens in those Parking lots.....



Tobia

Social climber
GA
Aug 21, 2011 - 01:18am PT
Werner
My family had a LeMans identical to yours; well identical when new as I doubt it we ever lived in it.

Sierra Ledge Rat

Mountain climber
Appalachia
Aug 21, 2011 - 08:58am PT
Camp 4 parking lot in the late 1970s and 1980


mastadon

Trad climber
crack addict
Aug 21, 2011 - 04:48pm PT

Mr Tobia Sir,

That first shot of Bill Fry is great. Haven't talked to him in a long time....

That second shot, the one of you and Pinky, must have been taken when I was rebuilding the differential on Bill Fry's truck behind the Gassineering Station in Tuolumne. There's plastic over the differential and at the ends of the axles. Bill's truck had a big horsepower Corvette 327 and he managed to snap the pinion gear.

Great shots. Keep 'em coming!
Russ Walling

Gym climber
Poofter's Froth, Wyoming
Aug 21, 2011 - 06:20pm PT
Sierra Ledge Rat: Great pics, but Young Chu never owned FiveTen. I'd fix that one pretty quick.
Mike Bolte

Trad climber
Planet Earth
Aug 21, 2011 - 06:34pm PT
Young Chu (left), former owner of Five Ten

bit of hornet nest poking there

EDIT: I see Russ beat me to it
Tobia

Social climber
GA
Aug 21, 2011 - 07:03pm PT
Mr. Mastadon,

You are correct. If you remember Bill asked me to help him, which led me to you since we pulled your VW engine out somewhere near that parking lot.

We had to go to Bishop to get parts for your VW. We used my camper (red toyota) to haul parts. Do you remember what happened with the VW the first time we put the engine in?

Bill let me have sleeping rights in the truck while he was in the TMCC.
That is KB's rig parked next to Bill's truck in Curry Village lot.
I had a picture of your Dodge camper but I can't find it.
I talked to Bill not to long ago. He is in Carson City.

That is Brossman's truck in the background.
Road trip to another parking lot... Ask Nita why she is holding the women's room sign.
Tobia

Social climber
GA
Aug 21, 2011 - 07:28pm PT

YPCC warehouse parking lot (no one thought I could drive it). 1978


Pinky with Brossman's daughter behind TMCC
Tobia

Social climber
GA
Aug 21, 2011 - 07:55pm PT
Sierra Ledge Rat:
Who's gold volvo? Cool ride and would be nice to have now.
mastadon

Trad climber
crack addict
Aug 21, 2011 - 08:24pm PT


Tobia-what happened the first time we put the engine in??
Tobia

Social climber
GA
Aug 21, 2011 - 08:33pm PT
We (you I should say because I merely lifted when you said lift) had to pull it out and put it back in because the distributor was reversed. You realized it as soon as you cranked it. I can't remember what was wrong originally, I know we toted some parts to a machine shop in Bishop.

VW's pesky little critters. When dredging for gold we used a VW engine to drive the pump. Is dredging still banned in California?

Wasn't that a 59 VW? It had the little flags for turn indicators. It was red. I have a picture that Jane took of us sitting around it trying to get the motor out I think. Seems like it was on the other side of the building by the propane tank.

Still got the Dodge?
mastadon

Trad climber
crack addict
Aug 21, 2011 - 10:32pm PT

That VW was one I bought from Terry Counts (who's in two of your pictures above with Nita) with a bad engine. It was a 1960 European model with the turn signal semaphores that flopped down when the turn signals were activated. I ended up giving it back to her many years later after she married Pete Minks and was living in Tahoe City. Don't know what ever happened to it.

Haven't had the Dodge since the early 80's.

Tobia

Social climber
GA
Aug 21, 2011 - 10:39pm PT
I was trying to remember Terry's last name. It was right on the tip of my tongue. All of the pictures of Terry & Nita are in Death Valley.
I met Minks once when he was hanging out in the Meadows. Mike White had a particularly funny name he called him to get his attention.
I still don't know why the VW didn't run right the way you had it in originally.
Did that spark your memory?

mastadon

Trad climber
crack addict
Aug 22, 2011 - 12:14pm PT

Is this the Mike White you're speaking of??
El Cap, 1980
can't say

Social climber
Pasadena CA
Aug 24, 2011 - 06:18pm PT
Here's a couple I stumbled across from the spring of 86
Tobia

Social climber
GA
Aug 24, 2011 - 10:50pm PT
That would be the one. He was always saying "leave the wristw#tch next time" when hanging around the kitchen at night. He was a pretty humorous guy.
I was always trying to talk him into selling his old Ford with the camper shell.

I saw the pictures of his retirement villa you posted somewhere. He hasn't changed much.
Dickbob

climber
Westminster Colorado
Nov 27, 2011 - 07:37pm PT
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Nov 27, 2011 - 08:29pm PT
County 5, yup, that would be Laramie...
I think '88 would be his Salathe year...
mike m

Trad climber
black hills
Nov 27, 2011 - 09:12pm PT
Lacey

Social climber
Burns,Oregon
Dec 27, 2011 - 12:03pm PT
Going through storage and ran across these... The good 'ol days.....
WBraun

climber
Dec 27, 2011 - 12:14pm PT
The above two photos prove that no one ever climbs.

We just hang around in parking lots and drool ......
Lacey

Social climber
Burns,Oregon
Dec 27, 2011 - 08:40pm PT
Sierra Ledge Rat

Social climber
Retired to Appalachia
Dec 27, 2011 - 10:11pm PT
cool stuff
Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Dec 27, 2011 - 10:20pm PT
R.B.

Trad climber
47N 122W
Dec 27, 2011 - 10:36pm PT
Barry W., Jim G., James E., R.B.;
AZ Boys hanging out at C4 Parking Lot on Bobbly Wobbly's "Baja Bus" June 1985
(Thanks for the flash to the way back machine Deuce)
Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Dec 27, 2011 - 10:36pm PT
alpinesallie

Boulder climber
Carson City, NV
Dec 27, 2011 - 10:43pm PT
great, classic pics!
Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Dec 27, 2011 - 10:44pm PT
Lacey

Social climber
Burns,Oregon
Dec 27, 2011 - 11:17pm PT

The Good 'Ol Days......
fsck

climber
Dec 27, 2011 - 11:47pm PT
brent, doctor, lakey, stoney j, heavy duty. moab visitor center lot. ca 2003

lakey and crystal
Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Dec 28, 2011 - 01:21am PT
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Dec 28, 2011 - 01:25am PT
I quite like all the shots - thanks, all! Lacey's are nicely framed, too, although sometimes it's hard to see details.
tom Carter

Social climber
Dec 28, 2011 - 01:36am PT
Nice Lacey!

How about that photo of Donny!
telemon01

Trad climber
Montana
Dec 28, 2011 - 02:22am PT


First time in the Valley, 1985
Inner City

Trad climber
East Bay
Dec 28, 2011 - 02:28am PT
This thread is an all-timer. What a feeling it conveys. Thanks to all for posting!
Powder

Trad climber
SF Bay Area
Dec 28, 2011 - 11:09am PT
Fascinating!!! =D
Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Dec 29, 2011 - 09:17pm PT
Todd Gordon

Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
Dec 31, 2011 - 09:23pm PT
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Dec 31, 2011 - 09:44pm PT
bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Jan 9, 2012 - 01:57pm PT
Bonus bump for a bitchin' thread!

Tucker and Dan, C4, 1987ish.

bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Jan 9, 2012 - 02:03pm PT
When you get right down to it, Hidden Valley CG is just one big paking lot, right?

The usual suspects, Thanksgiving 2003.

Fat Dad

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Jan 9, 2012 - 02:20pm PT
Re the photo of Largo and the crew on this page, I still can't used to the fact that they paved the back side of Trashcan Rock. It's big enough for a supermarket.
bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Jan 9, 2012 - 02:20pm PT
Rebecca, Tim Wilson, Ron Carson, Smith Rocks parking lot, April 1987.

deuce4

climber
Hobart, Australia
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 9, 2012 - 03:55pm PT
Bob, I wish we had more pictures of all the events that happened earlier that day in Josh--what a blast that week was!
bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Jan 9, 2012 - 04:19pm PT
I got a few, Duecy! I'll dig 'em up and scan 'em and post 'em and stuff.

bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Jan 9, 2012 - 04:26pm PT
Duecymomma and #1 BVB daughter Hanna. Crushing, all of the days!


Thanks for watching her so Joc and I could get some craggin' in, John!
bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Jan 9, 2012 - 04:31pm PT
Exhorting the playaz onward to Funk Face and LHMFP.

bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Jan 9, 2012 - 04:35pm PT
Pre-Thankgiving, pre-Monte Vista, Holloween prime-the-pump lubrication session, Chez BVB. Ralph, ET, Duecy.

bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Jan 9, 2012 - 04:39pm PT
Kyle, communing with Monzonite.

StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Jan 9, 2012 - 04:40pm PT
bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Jan 9, 2012 - 04:44pm PT
Duecy demonstrating the refined Harding Slot sequence while Colombo enjoys his evening dose of Castor Oil.

bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Jan 9, 2012 - 05:10pm PT
The notorious, jaw-drpping, mind-bending, (c) bone-crushing 1 am .26 BAC chalkless army boot send on Pig Pen. Crowds Roared; Jesus Wept; legends were born.


bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Jan 9, 2012 - 05:25pm PT
Duecy alpine rock training.

deuce4

climber
Hobart, Australia
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 9, 2012 - 05:28pm PT
the tale of pigpen's glorious army boot ascent recounted here:
http://www.bigwalls.net/climbMovies/bobsVacation/popup.html

"took it for a ride around the block" classic!
bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Jan 9, 2012 - 05:40pm PT
The Thanksgiving feast pallet fire madness. Can you ID the playaz?

bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Jan 9, 2012 - 05:59pm PT
Duecy crushing Kurt's Problem. I thought it was hard for the grade! The CRIMPERS! The DIMES! Oh My!

gonamok

climber
dont make me come over there
Jan 9, 2012 - 08:10pm PT
Me and the watusi with my '63 bug on my first trip to the valley, circa 1976
gonamok

climber
dont make me come over there
Jan 9, 2012 - 08:17pm PT
Doug Munoz, Michael Paul, Greg Epperson, Todd Tremble, Asta, Roger and Linda Peck, John McManus and Shari...the San Diego mob...doing the communal breakfast thing at the monument
gonamok

climber
dont make me come over there
Jan 9, 2012 - 08:30pm PT
La Jolla, San Diego - A day of seacliff climbing and swimming winds down on the clifftop, grillin and chillin as the sun sets over the pacific. It doesnt get any better than that.
gonamok

climber
dont make me come over there
Jan 9, 2012 - 08:39pm PT
epi with his fan club at La Jollaclimbing on the cliffs at La Jolla was super fun. Sadly, the cliffs are now completely buried under tons of sand.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Jan 5, 2013 - 08:55pm PT
Nice shots Ron!
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Jan 5, 2013 - 10:41pm PT
W&S lot



San Miguel




can't say

Social climber
Pasadena CA
Jan 6, 2013 - 08:28am PT
Wind and Sea parking permit

the guys who coined the term "Surf Nazi"
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Jan 6, 2013 - 11:35am PT
proto surf nazi-mobile

Tobia

Social climber
Denial
Mar 19, 2013 - 04:24pm PT
Off White

climber
Tenino, WA
Mar 19, 2013 - 05:12pm PT

Galen at ease on the front porch of his residence, in the Lodge lot, summer of 1977. Its a pity you can't live in your van in that lot for two months anymore.
hooblie

climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
Mar 19, 2013 - 05:21pm PT
still viable is living in the trunks of revolving sedans, under the same old premise ... what you get away with you can keep
Tobia

Social climber
Denial
Mar 19, 2013 - 11:43pm PT
Definitely would be hard to pull of in a beetle; but then again so would a good night's sleep. Does the ditch by the propane tank in Tuolumne Meadows still provide ranger protection?
Off White

climber
Tenino, WA
Mar 20, 2013 - 01:23pm PT
In that beetle the passenger seat was replaced by a wooden locker, and Galen isn't the tallest individual, so it actually slept pretty well for him. As far as profile, the rangers just didn't pay any attention, there were at least a dozen occupied vehicles in that lot all summer, it was like an auxiliary free campground. Here's the inside of my home from that summer, shot while sitting in the same lot right next to Galen's bug:


nothing very subtle about a multicolored VW bus. BVB (on the right) and I are both over 6', so a Beetle wouldn't have cut it,
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Mar 20, 2013 - 02:20pm PT
Off White:

Great photo of Galen and the VW!
Kind of like Proto Man in his natural habitat.

Plus, in your last shot, I'm going to suggest you were freshly extracted from the Northwest, given that Chouinard Fantasia is still hanging up to dry!
redrocker

climber
NV
Mar 20, 2013 - 02:54pm PT
Tarbuster,

In the third photo on the very first post on page 2 of this thread (message 21) I'm almost positive that's Wendell Broussard in the red jacket. I believe that's Richard Harrison that he's standing directly behind.

Can you confirm whether or not that is indeed Wendell.

Sorry if everyone in that photo has already been identified somewhere in this thread, I haven't read every post.

bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Mar 20, 2013 - 02:59pm PT
That Van photo was from summer of '77, Roy. Off left for Olympia in '78, me in '79, Galen in 1980 or '81 I think. The great migration. 5 different species of psyloshrooms grew right on the Evergreen campus...Ho Man.
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Mar 20, 2013 - 03:20pm PT
Yes, Beebs ... Twilly took Paulsy and I on the Evergreen campus soccer field tour.
We filled up the hat with mushrooms (a swarm of professors looked askance, grinning in our direction) then we went and climbed the Sunny Muffin Tree.

The parking lot of our minds began to sway from way up there.
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Mar 20, 2013 - 03:23pm PT
Red Rocker: yes that is Wendell!
And thank you for his last name. Also Richard Harrison.

Wendell was/is a really gentle man and very keen climber.
The photograph is from early 1980s.
redrocker

climber
NV
Mar 20, 2013 - 03:34pm PT
Thanks Tarbuster.

BASE104

Social climber
An Oil Field
Mar 20, 2013 - 03:56pm PT
I didn't spend as much time in the parking lot as the locals...

Anyone remember the Rangers on a full blown stake out looking for a BASE jumper back in the mid eighties? They were stopping anyone who even remotely fit the description and knew that he had spent the night in the SAR site.

Yeah, that was a close one. They were in plain clothes all over the place yacking to each other on the radio. Fortunately I was able to hear it all.

What was weird was we didn't even jump anything the night before. They wanted this one guy in a bad way.
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Mar 20, 2013 - 04:26pm PT
"Stakeout" doesn't even begin to cover it!

Shelly and I were asleep in the PleasureDome™ way out in the North 40, Upper Pines or something, when the Rangers came knocking very early one morning to grill us on the whereabouts of a particular jumper. (Jonathan RIP).

Apparently TeamStakeout™ thought we knew something. Following a jump from Glacier Point, they were making their interrogation rounds in Camp Four where Little Sue innocently told them straight away exactly where we might be found! Not like we were hiding out or on the lamb or anything … just not so easy to find … after they left we about died laughing that Sue spilled the beans on our whereabouts so easily.
FTOR

Sport climber
CA
Mar 20, 2013 - 04:56pm PT
not sure this was the same event but a base jumper put it out there that he was going off the lost arrow, then jumped ypb while all eyes were on the tip. rangers were pissed as never before. i was a pitch below with a motodrive camera catching the action as he went by. stashed the chute in the talas and made a clean get away, though injured. sadly, john is no longer with us.
BASE104

Social climber
An Oil Field
Mar 20, 2013 - 07:45pm PT
Nahhh...not the same one. A lot of C4 regulars were involved in the escape out of the park.

They were after the two most wanted on Earth, meaning these two hypothetical people never told anyone Jack.

It was pretty wild. I never got busted. I had to run for it here and there around the country, but I never got nailed.

Nobody has been seriously injured around me, either. I am a lucky charm.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 31, 2014 - 09:49pm PT

I remember the making of the legend... I had no idea there was a camera there... or I wouldn't have put my hands so close to your ass.
Flip Flop

Trad climber
Truckee, CA
Apr 1, 2014 - 01:19am PT
Werner,
Check out Ravenhairs and One of the Thirteen.
Rollover

climber
Gross Vegas
Apr 1, 2014 - 09:29am PT
^^^^
Holly!!(second from left)
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Apr 1, 2014 - 01:04pm PT
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Jul 13, 2014 - 06:54pm PT
Long Live the VW Bus!

I had a 71 and drove it many a mile!
throwpie

Trad climber
Berkeley
Mar 17, 2015 - 04:17pm PT
I guess this shot belongs here...an accidental picture of the C4 lot itself...circa 1972
mastadon

Trad climber
crack addict
Feb 25, 2019 - 07:45am PT
Just got some old Yos pictures from Mike White that deserve to be seen. I think he got some of them from Fig

TM Herbert reaching for a concerned Whitey. Dennis Miller in the background with Chris Bonnington on the right.

Bob Ashworth indicating his displeasure. I think that’s Dale Bard’s panel truck in the background.

Crappy photo. Drone Stephens sitting on the rock. Whitey in the foreground. I don’t recognize anyone else.
Here’ a classic. Peggy Bridwell and Jim Pettigrew sitting on a car in the Annex parking lot across from the gas station.





mastadon

Trad climber
crack addict
Feb 25, 2019 - 08:24am PT
I kinda remember Pettigrew being like an African honey badger-unpredictable and volitile. That expression on his face is priceless.

Here’s Drone, Brossman and Fig at a table in Camp 4

Brossman before he went MCA corporate
rmuir

Social climber
From the Time Before the Rocks Cooled.
Feb 25, 2019 - 03:50pm PT
Absolutely killer thread!

Jack Roberts (RIP), racking for Cosmos in the Spring of 1976…



That's the open boot of my burnt-orange MGBGT.
mastadon

Trad climber
crack addict
Feb 26, 2019 - 07:01am PT
Drone at the wheel of his broken down Caddie. Whitey in the middle on the roof. I have no idea who any of the others are.

Blinny, you knew a different Pettigrew than many of us did. I reunited with him 10 years or so ago and he was a completely different person than he was in the 70’s.
steveA

Trad climber
Wolfeboro, NH
Feb 26, 2019 - 12:56pm PT
1973-British site
johntp

Trad climber
Punter
Feb 26, 2019 - 05:45pm PT
mike a.

Sport climber
ca
Mar 1, 2019 - 04:45pm PT
dee ee

Mountain climber
Of THIS World (Planet Earth)
Mar 2, 2019 - 10:37am PT
HB, AJ, TB

StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Mar 2, 2019 - 11:16am PT
johntp

Trad climber
Punter
Mar 4, 2019 - 07:03pm PT
rocky510

Trad climber
Bishop, CA
Mar 18, 2019 - 11:42am PT
[photoid=555586]

Oldfattradguy2

Trad climber
Here and there
Mar 18, 2019 - 03:08pm PT
Thanks rocky,

Steve M. (RIP) used to crash on my floor in the gunks, then again so did you. I even got to watch you get kicked out of the Thesis after the bartender refused to play your new Blag Flag cassette.
rocky510

Trad climber
Bishop, CA
Mar 18, 2019 - 04:47pm PT
Haha, that's hilarious! Many good times were had at The Thesis! John Rosholt also RIP.
hamie

Social climber
Thekoots
Mar 18, 2019 - 11:00pm PT
Somehow missed this thread before. Probably a good time and place for this photo.

Phil Bircheff (left), Bridwell, and Dave Bircheff behind the tree.

The young lady sitting on the ground had seriously underestimated the potency of the newly available LSD, and was totally wasted. She kept trying to crawl under the car at the back, and we had to physically restrain her!


At that time only the older A Team owned cars. The rest of us peons had to walk to our climbs, and back again. Unless one of the elite deigned to give us a ride, which was a rare event.

Soooooo long ago now.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Mar 21, 2019 - 08:33pm PT
Look what I found...Scarfin' archives again...
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/2824064/The-Lesher-Archives
Bad Climber

Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
Mar 22, 2019 - 09:00am PT
So good. Keep this ol' shiz bumped.

BAd
NBB

Social climber
Boulder
Mar 22, 2019 - 09:15am PT
ron gomez

Trad climber
Mar 22, 2019 - 10:26am PT
HBB...The guy in the foreground could it be Banny Root?
Peace
Robb

Social climber
Cat Box
Mar 22, 2019 - 11:21am PT
Yup, that's Banny
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Mar 22, 2019 - 11:33am PT
ron gomez

Trad climber
Mar 22, 2019 - 01:33pm PT
The Fish’s.
Peace
Oldfattradguy2

Trad climber
Here and there
Mar 24, 2019 - 11:06am PT
Wilderness Bound, the New Paltz version of outward bound but for kids who wanted to be degenerates and learn the fine art of being dirtbags as opposed to true wilderness skills. Should probably have its own thread.

1978, cascades

zip

Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
Mar 24, 2019 - 11:24am PT
I yearn for those days when life was much simpler.
johntp

Trad climber
Punter
Mar 24, 2019 - 11:32am PT
I yearn for those days when life was much simpler.

At least we experienced those times. A lot of people never did "enjoy" their youth.
zip

Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
Mar 24, 2019 - 11:46am PT
My goal is to be homeless as soon as possible.
No more mortgages, property taxes, tenants, and HOAs.
Gonna live in my car and my boat.
Once a dirtbag,,,,,,,,
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Mar 24, 2019 - 12:36pm PT
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Mar 24, 2019 - 12:56pm PT
Walleye, will check but early ‘80’s for sure. We followed the snow plow.
Tobia

Social climber
Denial
Mar 25, 2019 - 04:56am PT
Stahlbro,

Your pic with the VW had to be after '84, the last time I was there and they didn't have the little gable awnings over the gas pumps.
Fossil climber

Trad climber
Atlin, B. C.
Mar 25, 2019 - 05:06pm PT
I Sure regret I wasn't taking pictures early on. Could have added a 1941 Buick
Roadmaster and later a 1950 Studebaker to the memorabilia.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Mar 26, 2019 - 07:42am PT
From the Lesher Archives.
WBraun

climber
Mar 26, 2019 - 07:55am PT
One more kant hurt :-)

Mike Bolte

Trad climber
Planet Earth
Mar 26, 2019 - 04:16pm PT
johntp

Trad climber
Punter
Mar 26, 2019 - 04:25pm PT
I Sure regret I wasn't taking pictures early on. Could have added a 1941 Buick
Roadmaster and later a 1950 Studebaker to the memorabilia.

Me as well. Rarely carried a camera BITD. Digital has made it so much easier. So many good times were not recorded that I wish there were photos of.
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Mar 27, 2019 - 06:58am PT
Wow, lots of great photos in the last couple pages!

Mastadon's offerings from Mike White showing Drone and Brossman in 10 gallon straw cowboy hats are so vintage it hurts, in a good way.

Mike Bolte's portraits of Bill Fry (Frey?), Messick, Pinky bring it all back.

Old Fat Trad Guy 2: that group shot of the Wilderness Bound crew really sings!
I would love to see a full thread on that crew. You holding more photos?

There's so much going on here:


Looks like the trip leader on the left next to the blue Jansport D4 frame pack. He's shielding himself with his blue ensolite, while young woman to the right has her hand out in case he's about to throw it at the guy to her right, who is chucking pebbles at the trip leader. Young woman #2 standing in the longsleeve orange shirt is pointing the finger, calling out the photographer! Old-school army green A-frame mountain tent off the side of the road. Long wood-shafted ice axes strewn about, all of them 70 cm or taller, 2 guys in the upper right corner are grooving on a rare patch of Pac Northwest sunshine – I feel like I'm there!!!
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Mar 27, 2019 - 07:03am PT
Roy, I never would have known the lanky Miss P is Pinky, as I have only ever met her at Facelift just before she retired from running her campground.

Great gal!

Thanks for the identification.
TwistedCrank

climber
Released into general population, Idaho
Mar 27, 2019 - 07:13am PT
Marty Lewis, his Bonneville, my boom box and I. TM, 1981.
Oldfattradguy2

Trad climber
Here and there
Mar 27, 2019 - 07:35am PT
Tarbuster, You got a lot of it right! except the person pointing is a guy, he actually grew up in New Paltz, his dad was professor at SUNY.

I have more photos to post at some point (link below)...What I wish I had was a photo of the trip leader sitting in a van with a broken key that got us busted for taking "free" showers at a KOA, we got off easy they made us pay for camping. Just to think that my parents paid for me to learn stuff like this instead of petty long Island criminal stuff.

https://toddeo.smugmug.com/History/My-Parents-Paid-for-This/

Need to scan with a better scanner....
mastadon

Trad climber
crack addict
Mar 27, 2019 - 09:11am PT
Camp 4 parking lot in March 1974 or ‘75. We were the only people (morons) staying in camp.
WBraun

climber
Mar 27, 2019 - 09:21am PT
Don

When are you gonna be in El Cap meadow again so we can talk sh!t about everything under the sun again lol?

:-)
mastadon

Trad climber
crack addict
Mar 27, 2019 - 09:26am PT
El Cap meadow? I’ve been there half a dozen times in the past few weeks. I came by your little workshop cubbyhole looking for you but you were probably off free soloing Twilight Zone or something.
Leigh Stephens

climber
Chico
Mar 28, 2019 - 08:38am PT
This is such a great thread, these pictures are awesome. Thanks everyone for sharing! It's cool to see more stuff about this part of Drone's life that I was too late for :)
Mike Bolte

Trad climber
Planet Earth
Apr 3, 2019 - 10:55pm PT
from the 1980s: Bob, his rig and Bill Frey's (correct spelling of Frey by the way Tobia and Tarbuster).

Story I got was Mastadon rebuilt Bill/Drone's Chevy in the parking lot down in the Valley when the gas station was still there by the main store.


EDIT: as I said, Bob Ashworth is the human in the photo, the trucks in the photo used to belong to Bob (the biggest rig on the left) and Bill Frey (the smaller, but still pretty big rig on the right)
Tobia

Social climber
Denial
Apr 4, 2019 - 07:19am PT
Mike,
Funny how I misspelled "Frey". I email and text him all the time and have always spelled it correctly (except on any post).

I sent him a text the other day to look at the pic I posted of the truck on the Drone thread. I'm sure he will accept my apology and he understands the way my mind works.

Thanks for the correction.

I attempted to rebuild the rear end in the TMCC parking lot, but ran into problems. Mastadon bailed me out and did it correctly. Unfortunately Bill tested it after my attempt and drove it to Mammoth before it started coming unglued. Not sure which was worse the failed repair or Bill's disappointment in my efforts.
WBraun

climber
Apr 4, 2019 - 07:44am PT
I remember that truck like it was yesterday.

That truck setup was pretty common for climbers back then ....
Tobia

Social climber
Denial
Apr 5, 2019 - 05:23am PT
I remember it like yesterday as well, after spending so much time in and under it.

I sent the pic that Mike posted to Bill. He replied that wasn't he in the photo, it is Bob Ashworth. Could have fooled me.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Apr 5, 2019 - 05:34am PT
That sure does look like Bobby Ashworth, Tobia.
I worked in the Yosemite Village Mountain Shop with him (and Andy Cox, RIP) his first year with Curry.
A real solid guy with whom I never got to climb.
Tobia

Social climber
Denial
Apr 5, 2019 - 12:35pm PT
I remember Bob hanging around the TMCC, but it looks like Bill Frey pose.

The last vehicle I knew Donnie to have was an old Dodge Valiant station wagon.

Edit:
I just read Mike”s post, I misread it. I’ve got to get my eye”s checked.
Mike Bolte

Trad climber
Planet Earth
Apr 5, 2019 - 04:20pm PT
a bit far afield from parking lots but Mr Frey and I have taken some pretty fun bonefish and birding trips to various Bahama islands in the last five years. For his friends here who have not seen him in a few decades






mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Apr 5, 2019 - 09:07pm PT
mastadon

Trad climber
crack addict
Apr 6, 2019 - 06:34am PT
The old Camp 4 sign where it resides these days.
I NEVER would have recognized Bill Frye and i know him pretty well. He looks like he could be in the witness protection program on a desert island.

mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Apr 6, 2019 - 08:35pm PT
mastadon

Trad climber
crack addict
Apr 7, 2019 - 08:31am PT
Is the party actually on Easter day? I will certainly tell Eddie, the Little King!
Mike Bolte

Trad climber
Planet Earth
Apr 7, 2019 - 08:48am PT
Thanks for the heads up Andy!
Mike Bolte

Trad climber
Planet Earth
Apr 9, 2019 - 04:14pm PT
one more from the 80ish. Some of these Bill Frey took and he had some challenges with the aperture, exposure, ASA, triangle thing. Some of these are really dark. This one looked like a black slide till I put my military tactical 5000 lumen LED flashlight behind it.

WBraun

climber
Apr 9, 2019 - 04:30pm PT
Brossman and Ashworth
Mike Bolte

Trad climber
Planet Earth
Apr 9, 2019 - 05:27pm PT
yup - Bruce was The Boss at the time
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