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Jello
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Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 26, 2007 - 08:31pm PT
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…but it’s going to cost you!
One of the most gratifying hats I wear is my Executive Director of Ogden Climbing Parks (OCP) hat. Managing this small non-profit organization allows me to give something back to climbers, as well as to the community where I was born and grew up. For a couple of years we’ve been pretty low-key—just putting things in order with property owners, the city of Ogden, Weber county, the local trails organizations, the Forest Service and so on. We have also purchased the refrigerated ice tower I designed for the ESPN Winter X Games.
We have plans that will benefit every type of climber:
-Adding parking and trails to the St. Joe’s bouldering area on the east bench, and improving the landings while at the same time mitigating erosion problems.
-Building a trail up to and along the base of the Schoolroom Cliff, home of some of the first 5.11 (trad) routes in the country, now home to many fine sport routes, as well.
-Negotiating access and building trails to several almost untouched limestone crags, with potential for a couple hundred routes from 1 to 3 pitches. Ogden’s mayor has offered to pay for anchor and supplies need to establish the routes.
-Expanding the farmed ice in Waterfall Canyon to include a thousand-foot swath of low angle to moderately steep cliffs and gullys southwest of Malan’s Waterfall, and east of the three existing via feratta.
-Finalizing the agreement with the landowner of Waterfall Canyon, allowing traditional and sport climbing to take place at no charge, under the management of OCP. This opens up about 100 low-end trad climbs up to 4 or 5 pitches in length, and a couple dozen decent sport routes.
-Starting operations of the Jeff Lowe School of Mountaineering, offering instruction and guiding by AMGA certified guides, particularly targeting youth and underserved members of the community.
-Erecting the (redesigned) Hollowgraphic Ice Tower in the Big Dee Sports Park at the mouth of Ogden Canyon.
-Hosting a Ogden Hard-Core Climbing Film Festival, featuring films that are squeezed out at the larger Mountain-Film festivals.
To accomplish all these things, we will need money. We have applied for and expect to receive grants from one or more private and public foundations (see sample cover letter, below) but we will need the participation of local individuals and businesses, too, along with the climbing community in general. And that’s where you come in.
In a month OCP will launch a major fund-raising campaign. There will be a way for everyone to be involved, at whatever level you choose. But for my SuperTopo friends, specifically the fat cats among you, I’m making an exclusive one-time offer: the chance to literally have me cook breakfast and dinner and clean house for you for five days, while you get to go climbing on the Tower or any of the other venues each day, guided or partnered (as the case may be) by one of our guides!
Here are the specifics:
BENEFITS
-Five days and nights room and board at Jeff Lowe’s house, at a mutually agreeable time, any time after December 1, 2007. Jeff will do the cooking and cleaning.
-Five days guiding/instruction/partnering, by an AMGA certified guide who knows the area.
-Lifetime “Founding Member” membership to Ogden Climbing Parks with discount card.
-No-fee access (reservations required on F-C-F-S basis) to climbing on the Ice Tower, for as long as the Tower remains in operation.
-Signed copies of Ice World and Jeff’s new book, Many Climbs (upon publication.
-Waterfall Ice, Alpine Ice and Clean Walls, DVD’s
THIS IS AN AUCTION, AVAILABLE ONLY THROUGH SUPERTOPO. THE AUCTION WILL LAST FOR THREE DAYS, BEGINNING 2-26-07 AND ENDING 3-01-07 AT 6:00 PM PACIFIC TIME. WINNING BID MUST BE PAID BY CREDIT CARD OR ELECTRONIC FUNDS TRANSFER WITHIN 24 HRS.
OPENNING (MINIMUM) BID; $3,000
BIDS CAN BE PLACED HERE ON THE FORUM, OR THROUGH E-MAIL TO JEPLOWE@NETSCAPE.COM (THE NAMES OF AF ANY E-MAIL BIDDERS WILL BE KEPT CONFIDENTIAL).
C-mon, folks, I’ll be your SLAVE! And you’ll be doing the climbing community a good deed. Let the bidding begin!
Your loyal friend and would-be slave,
Jeff Lowe
SAMPLE GRANT APPLICATION COVER LETTER:
OGDEN’S HOLLOWGRAPHIC ICE TOWER, Inc.
January 28, 2007
RAMP Tax Commission Board
Dear RAMP Board Members:
Children love to climb, it’s a natural instinct. When they climb, they develop their muscles, their balance, their flexibility and their brains. It takes a creative mind for a toddler to place a footstool on a stack of newspapers, pull herself up high enough to flop over onto the counter, then reach high on tippy-toe to grab the cookie jar off the top of the fridge! As they grow older, many people never lose the urge to climb and explore. Technical mountain climbing is just a more sophisticated and codified expression of that ancient urge.
I’m an Ogden native and have been a mountain climber ever since my dad guided me up the Grand Teton at the age of seven, back in 1958. Over the years I’ve worked as an instructor for Outward Bound, guided climbers around the world and run my own climbing school, among other things. I’ve witnessed the metamorphosis of a forty-year old housewife into an avid tiger of the heights. I’ve seen inner city dope fiends kick drugs in favor of climbing rocks, and I’ve seen the joy on the faces of kids of all stripes when they finally make it to the top of a climbing wall. The climbing experience offers something that’s very hard to get in today’s society, infatuated as it is with video games and reality TV; almost divorced from or afraid of the natural world and real challenge.
I was very glad to hear from Ogden’s mayor, Mathew Godfrey, that you are graciously willing to consider our request for a grant of $200,000 to help construct an ice climbing facility in the Big Dee Sports Park, In Ogden. Ogden’s Hollowgraphic Ice Tower is unique in that it is the world’s only free-standing, refrigerated ice climbing structure.
I originally designed the tower to be used by the TV sports giant ESPN, as the ice climbing venue for the Winter X Games. It was used for the X Games for several years until ice climbing was dropped from the roster of sports. Last fall I negotiated with Alpine Iron Works, the owner of the tower, to purchase it at a greatly reduced price. Although the tower originally cost $245,000 just for fabrication, the owner is making an in-kind donation of $215,000 of that value (this is exclusive of the cost of erecting the tower).
We have transported the tower in pieces from Crested Butte, Colorado, where it was last used, to Ogden. We have secured a lease on the site at Big Dee Park, from the City, and we are currently working on a slight re-design to make it a better teaching and learning facility, while maintaining the ability to host high-end competitions. This facility will be used by local and visiting climbers. Courses and special programs will be run for kids and adults with special needs. Competitions and festivals will be hosted with far-reaching publicity for Ogden. The community in general will benefit from having a “Tower of Dreams”, unlike any other venue, a place where they can personally experience the truth of this line from French writer, Rene Daumal: “What is above, knows what is down below. But what is below, does not know what is above.”
Thank you for your kind consideration.
Sincerely Yours,
Jeff Lowe
Executive Director
Ogden’s Hollowgraphic Ice Tower, Inc.
dba Ogden Climbing Parks
PO Box 693
Ogden, UT 84402
Tel: (801) 399-1130
jeplowe@netscape.com
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Feb 26, 2007 - 08:35pm PT
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A word of warning to the winner of the auction;
DON'T ask for the puppet show.
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WBraun
climber
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Feb 26, 2007 - 08:53pm PT
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Jello said: C-mon, folks, I’ll be your SLAVE!
Oh oh, make sure you know who'll be coming to your house.
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Jello
Social climber
No Ut
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2007 - 09:38pm PT
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Here's a picture of the Hollowgraphic Ice Tower. We will keep it iced for five months each winter. It will have six different facets, four ice of varying angles, including a free-standing pillar, and two overhangining mixed facets. It will allow 10 to 12 roped parties to climb at any one time. Each spring we will re-fit the Tower with a surface of soft wood slabs, for summer simulated-ice, and mixed climbing practice.
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Jello
Social climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2007 - 10:08pm PT
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OK, just had a phone conversation with someone who wants to remain annonymous, who promissed to pay $2,000 if we don't get our minimum bid of $3,000. I refused the offer, and tried to explain the value of the package this way:
-five days with a private AMGA certified guide $1,500
-Life time OCP discount card on lodging, food, etc
($40/year for est 20 years) $ 800
-Life time Tower access ($300/yr times 10 years) $3,000
-Signed books and videos 150
-five days lodging and meals cooked by me PRICELESS!
The caller said they might get back to me.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Feb 26, 2007 - 10:12pm PT
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And that's not including the puppet show!
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Feb 26, 2007 - 10:16pm PT
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With three (count 'em) THREE puppets!
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Jello
Social climber
No Ut
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2007 - 10:39pm PT
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Here's a picture of one half of Waterfall Canyon Climbing Park.
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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Feb 26, 2007 - 11:21pm PT
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It sounds like a pretty good thing you're working on there, jello. I'm no fatcat - it's way out of my league. But I'll be interested to hear the updates on your fundraiser.
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Jello
Social climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2007 - 12:41am PT
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Thanks, Happie. Wuddya think, Fatrad's always reminding us how much money he makes for himself and his clients. Don't ya think he oughta share the wealth a bit, and do some good for the climbing community? Maybe he's got a client who's interested in climbing?
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Feb 27, 2007 - 12:43am PT
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You're not suggesting that DaftRat put his money where his mouth is, are you?
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Jello
Social climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2007 - 01:01am PT
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That's exactly what I'm suggesting, Mighty. It would be win-win. OCP would recieve his support, and Fatty would have plenty of time to attempt to convert me to his world-view.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Feb 27, 2007 - 01:06am PT
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Let's hope you cook as well as you Climb!
Might be safer for the stomachs and make more money if you climb with them and let them bivy somewhere and get pro cooking!
Otherwise I can just see it.
"Hey Jeff Man, what's for dinner! Climbing was rad and I'm famished!"
"You're going to love it Bro, we had this same meal in Patagonia over and over and it's great. First we boil these Ramen noodles and then throw in these special dehydrated Whatzits. The real secret is in the special powder that spices it. I'd tell ya but I'd have to kill you"
"Umm, maybe I'll have to kill you instead!"
I'd bid but I'm not really attracted to ice climbing and money isn't really attracted to me!
Peace and best wishes
Karl
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Mimi
climber
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Feb 27, 2007 - 01:29am PT
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Wow Jello! I'm sure you'll get the investors you need to see this cool project fully operational. The lucky bidder will definitely get their money's worth.
Can't wait to visit and check it out.
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Jello
Social climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2007 - 01:47am PT
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If Fatty wins the bid, Locker, I'll have to draw the line on that fishnet thing...
On the other hand, if Mimi would like me in fishnets when she comes to visit..I have been getting in touch with my sensitive female par...er... side recently. It's just that I can only fully express it when I'm with a fellow(?) chick, ya know?
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Jello
Social climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2007 - 01:56am PT
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Hey Locker, we can definitely put some re-soles to good use, though. Thanks for the offer. I'll follow up with you.
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Nohea
Trad climber
Aiea,Hi
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Feb 27, 2007 - 02:35am PT
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I am two bottles of good wine into this evening so I cannot commit right now. However I see no problem with 3G and I'll join you Jan, feb, or Mar 2008 whenever you tell me its the best. I thought I was moving to the west coast next month but was held up by an great island offer. So I need a good mountain experience.
Aloha,
wil
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Mimi
climber
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Feb 27, 2007 - 02:37am PT
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Dude, you rock.
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Jello
Social climber
No Ut
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2007 - 10:18am PT
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Way to go, Wil. We'd have a great time for a good cause. Can I send you a few more bottles of vino? Let us know when you can commit.
Thanks for the good spirits!
-Jeff
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Cuckawalla
Trad climber
Grand Junction, CO
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Feb 27, 2007 - 11:14am PT
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I’m just a poor college kid from Grand Junction, but I do have some advice. I reckon you have a couple REI's near you. SLC, SANDY. I happen to work for the one here. REI gives money to the community every year, sometimes its gear, sometimes its good money. I think that what you are doing falls under something REI would be willing to back. IF I were you I would take your Grant proposition to the REI's around you and shmooze some Employees. The employees are the ones that nominate grants.
Hope this Helps,
Jesse.
Edit) Could probably even go to REI from a national level and apply for grants too. Even though REI has become extremely big, they are still somewhat of a Co-op and have money set aside for the community that they have to spend.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Feb 27, 2007 - 12:46pm PT
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Bump.
I'm hoping that Jeff will let us know once DaftRat's made a real bid. Then we can bid up the price he'll pay.
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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Feb 27, 2007 - 01:41pm PT
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Of course...if fatrad reeeally wanted to give from the heart....he stomp everyone's bid and then find himself just too busy to schedule that dream trip....and choose some non-politically motivated person to go by proxy(me! me!)....
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Jello
Social climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2007 - 03:19pm PT
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I know you're from the heart, Sir Fatman (just quite deluded!). Thanks for joining the game. I'll read the books, if you send 'em. 501(c)(3) ID is: 71-0975247
-ThankfullJello
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Jello
Social climber
No Ut
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2007 - 03:20pm PT
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Cuckawalla, I will follow up on your suggestions. Many thanks.
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Jello
Social climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2007 - 03:24pm PT
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Happie, you're always welcome to a meal at my place, fundraiser or not, if you get out this way. I dig your internet vibe, as I do a lot of TacoPeople.
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mack
Trad climber
vermont
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Feb 27, 2007 - 04:38pm PT
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Where exactly is this place? I live a long way away but I might
be interested in a week out there. Are there any bids yet?
Mack
PS I haven't gotten out to try your tips yets...hopefully this weekend.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Feb 27, 2007 - 05:06pm PT
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Mack,
Ogden, Utah is considered the Riviera of the Great Salt Lake.
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Prod
Social climber
Charlevoix, MI
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Feb 27, 2007 - 05:23pm PT
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Hey Jello,
Guy Kenny here, I worked for you way back in 89 doing SCC. This looks like a cool gig. Got a website yet? Post a link.
Prod
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Jello
Social climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2007 - 05:28pm PT
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Fat, Employer ID is: 71-0975247. Sorry, I was distracted when I posted earlier. I'll go back and fix it now, so no one else gets tripped up!
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mack
Trad climber
vermont
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Feb 27, 2007 - 05:29pm PT
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Jello,
Does it have to be during the ice season? I'm actually way more into rock climbing.
Mack
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Jello
Social climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2007 - 05:34pm PT
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Mack, Ogden is 35 miles north of SLC. You could come in the summer, it you wanted, but if you came in March, you could rock climb as well as work on the bruised-knee ice problem thing.
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Jello
Social climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2007 - 05:37pm PT
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Hello, Guy, good to hear from you. We are working on a separate website for Ogden Climbing Parks, but for now you can find a page on my site: www.jefflowe.info
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mack
Trad climber
vermont
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Feb 27, 2007 - 05:37pm PT
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March is good although I usually go to the carribean then...but if its like the Riviera, sounds like I would really dig it.
Have you had any bids yet?
Mack
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Jello
Social climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2007 - 05:51pm PT
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Thanks for helping out, Fatty! Openning your pocketbook a little tends to open my mind a little...
...just teasing!
I'll read the damn books just to be better prepared to argue against your stance. It should be fun, but don't bring any big guns like your friend Mack-Hain. I might buckle under the pressure.
-StandingStrongJello
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Jello
Social climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2007 - 05:53pm PT
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No firm bids, yet, Mack, although Wil sounds pretty positive. You could come anytime you like, after 12-01-07.
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paganmonkeyboy
Trad climber
the blighted lands of hatu
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Feb 27, 2007 - 06:04pm PT
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i don't have anywhere near that kind of money, but i humbly offer my time as a volunteer of some sort - computer work, writing letters, sparky or framing, digging ditches (really good at ditches...), just another live body on the ground...
tom
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Jello
Social climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2007 - 06:25pm PT
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Tom- many thanks for the kind offer to help. You are now officially on the list.
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Jello
Social climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2007 - 06:47pm PT
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We have recieved our openning bid of $3,000, via e-mail. Unless the bidder grants permission to use their name or avatar, they shall remain annonymous.
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Nohea
Trad climber
Aiea,Hi
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Feb 27, 2007 - 07:07pm PT
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Damn, I just got home from work and shot you an email but due to the still noncommittal nature of my email, I will have to talk with the wife to top 3G.
Well good on em! And good on you Jello for offering such a package. How about I trade you a 3 bedroom in sunny Aiea for a few cold Utah nights. Four surfboards to choose from, two mtn bikes, including the choice of 3 different single pitch climbing areas!
Aloha,
wil
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bachar
Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Feb 27, 2007 - 07:34pm PT
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Watch out folks - Jeff can get a little freaky at times....
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L
climber
The City of Lost Angels
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Feb 27, 2007 - 07:45pm PT
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John...which one is Jeff? Not the one in the brassiere I hope!
If there's one thing I can't stand, it's men wearing women's clothes
and not taking the time to coordinate!!!
I mean, look at that headband! Flamin' Purple! It doesn't match that flowery little brassiere at all,
which doesn't go with those ratty shorts in the least.
A FASHION EMERGENCY, that's what Jeff is!
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Anastasia
Trad climber
California
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Feb 27, 2007 - 08:05pm PT
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Now I know why Bachar hasn't shown these slides before.
"Laughing..."
You look good Jeff.
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bachar
Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Feb 27, 2007 - 08:10pm PT
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Sorry Jeff, I couldn't resist..."I want to be your slave for five days and five nights"
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Feb 27, 2007 - 08:19pm PT
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Just a slave, not a love slave. I think.
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paganmonkeyboy
Trad climber
the blighted lands of hatu
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Feb 27, 2007 - 08:19pm PT
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ok - now i've got rick james stuck in my head...
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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Feb 27, 2007 - 08:34pm PT
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The matching does happen...if you notice the yellow and blue of the halter top are picked up in the ensemble worn by the other guy....
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L
climber
The City of Lost Angels
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Feb 27, 2007 - 08:39pm PT
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Oh Happie! You're right! They're wearing "A Pair Apparel". Makes much more sense now...
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Feb 27, 2007 - 09:01pm PT
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Isn't that also Breashears, the Kloeberdanz Kid?
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Jello
Social climber
No Ut
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2007 - 10:03pm PT
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Holey Sh#t, John! I leave the house for a few minutes and come back to...what IS that? You musta gotten good with photoshop or sumpthin'.
-PervertedJello
PS, checkin' the old memory banks, I have NO recollection at all of posing for a photo like that. Can I, er...buy the original from you?
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Crimpergirl
Social climber
St. Looney
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Feb 27, 2007 - 10:15pm PT
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I don't have the big cash to play, but I'll follow up on Wil's idea...
How about I trade you a 3 bedroom in exciting St. Louis for a few cold Utah nights? While here you can tour the Anheiser Busch brewery, see the city jails, and drive though (quickly) limitless ghettos. And I'll wear the fishnets and bandana.
Tempting, eh?
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the Fet
Knackered climber
A bivy sack in the secret campground
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Feb 27, 2007 - 10:18pm PT
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Very cool. Whoever takes up the offer will have a fantastic time I'm sure.
BTW Ogden looks fantastic. I've got to get up to that area one of these days (I've only been to the Cottonwoods). If I could retire right now I'd probably move there. World Class skiing and climbing and a low cost of living, where else can you get that?
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Jello
Social climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2007 - 11:14pm PT
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But Crimpie, if you're here at my place, and I'm there at your place, then that means you're going to have to entertain fatty wearing those fishnets. You OK with that?
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Watusi
Social climber
Joshua Tree, CA
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Feb 27, 2007 - 11:54pm PT
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I was kinda going here myself...
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Standing Strong
Trad climber
the secret life of standing strong
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Feb 28, 2007 - 01:07am PT
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"jack, i want you to draw me like one of your french girls. wearing this. wearing ONLY this"
-LaughingLikeJello
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mack
Trad climber
vermont
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Feb 28, 2007 - 11:45am PT
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Bump...keep this on the front page
Mack
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Jello
Social climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 28, 2007 - 04:24pm PT
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OK, so here's the deal. We have two folks who have bid $3,000 each, Wil and a person who wishes to remain annonymous. Fat Jeff has also indicated he may bid. We can proceed with this auction as per the original terms, and raise something in excess of $3,000 for OCS, or, it occurs to me we could do better for everyone, and offer each of the two committed parties identical packages, for $3,000 for each package, yielding a total of $6,000 to OCS, and dissappointing no one. Then, if the Fatster want's to have a special "convert Jello to the worst of extreme capitalism" package put together specially for him, we could do that and bring up the total even more. What say you, Wil, Annonymous (you can answer by e-mail) and Fatrad? I think we need unanimity to change the rules at this point.
For your delectation, just thought I'd drop in a picture of one of the untouched crags we're working on access to. This one is decent limestone up to 400' high.
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Jello
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 28, 2007 - 04:57pm PT
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Thanks for the help and support, Jody's ET.
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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Feb 28, 2007 - 05:28pm PT
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drool.....
I think your idea(both get the deal as opposed to auctioning off till one goes out) is great. Hoping your two bidders agree.
Oh - and thanks for the dinner invite. I really have never been out there, and it is so on my list.... As well, of course, if you're ever in NYC, mi casa su casa.
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mack
Trad climber
vermont
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Feb 28, 2007 - 08:18pm PT
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Please don't wear a tutu
Mack
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Jello
Social climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 28, 2007 - 08:26pm PT
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Mack, I've grown up. I don't look good in a tutu anymore.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Feb 28, 2007 - 08:44pm PT
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Moved on to a bustiere?
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Jello
Social climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 28, 2007 - 09:02pm PT
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So Mack, who was the annonymous bidder, has agreed to the new deal, and to go public. Now, let's see what Wil says he's been able to sweet-talk his wife into. Thanks to all for your interest and support!
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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Feb 28, 2007 - 10:08pm PT
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Congratulations, Mack! I had the feeling you were the anonymous bidder(don't think it was too hard to figure out, though). What a great gift - to yourself and the organization Jello's fundraising for.
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Nohea
Trad climber
Aiea,Hi
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Feb 28, 2007 - 11:11pm PT
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Way to go Mack!
Thanks for the great offer Jello. The wife and I had Part 1 of the talk last night and we'll conclude tonight. All looks favorable.
Took me awhile to reply cause I am leaving my job Friday so I am training my replacement for the past two weeks meaning I am knott on my pc at work any more. But that will be over come Friday.
email incoming.
Aloha,
wil
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ground_up
Trad climber
mt. hood /baja
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Feb 28, 2007 - 11:15pm PT
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Jeff,
Would if I mowed your lawn for two years every week....?
You are a good man Mr. Lowe !
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Feb 28, 2007 - 11:17pm PT
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Glad it's worked out so well.
"I don't look good in a tutu anymore."
Who was it that thought you ever did?
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yo
climber
The Eye of the Snail
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Feb 28, 2007 - 11:28pm PT
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hahahahahaha
Some kind of perilous journey for young Breashears there. What sorts of early films did he make, anyhow? Ho man, still laughing...
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mack
Trad climber
vermont
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This is sooo exciting! Jello, do you have prior experience at this slave thing? I just bought a video camera, perhaps I can bring a little bit back for all you supertacoans. Bwahahaha.
Mack
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mack
Trad climber
vermont
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Thanks Happi,
I'm glad Jeff changed the rules...I was on pins and needles.
Mack
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Jello
Social climber
No Ut
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 1, 2007 - 12:48pm PT
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Recieved an e-mail from Wil in the wee hours of the morning. HE'S IN, TOO! So, Supertopians, I am humbled by your good spirits and generousity. Thanks to Mack and Nohea and Fatrad, and all of you, really, Ogden Climbing Parks fund drive has been given a nice jump-start.
Mal Daly e-mailed me with an idea that might allow more of you to get involved, too. He's kind of a genious at this stuff. I'll post it up later today, after I think through the details more fully.
The people here on ST are a special bunch. Thanks, again to you all!
-Jeff Lowe
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divad
Trad climber
wmass
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Mack, Don't know who to congratulate, you or Jeff. Both of you I guess.
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Nohea
Trad climber
Aiea,Hi
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That was great thing to throw out to us Jello! Yes Wine Pleese, and the back yard in a bivy sack will be just fine.
Great Job Mack... looks like we both got into a pretty cool adventure and was able to help out a little in the process.
Aloha,
wil
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maldaly
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Maybe we should organize a fundraising Taco-fest in Ogden similar to the sushi fest. Never know what might happen when a bunch of us get together...
Mal
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mack
Trad climber
vermont
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Thanks divad
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mack
Trad climber
vermont
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Congrats to you too Wil,
Got any idea when you'll go?
Mack
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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'Maybe we should organize a fundraising Taco-fest in Ogden similar to the sushi fest.'
now there's an idea.....
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Troy Lincoln
climber
Ogden, UT
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Please look at this project in detail. Ogden, UT climbers, bikers, hikers, and all other outdoor enthusiasts are very divided regarding this park. This is part of a larger development project that will dramatically impact a beautiful, natural mountain environment in an area that is quickly losing ground, literally, to big business, big money, and questionable politics (as if politics aren't already questionable). Make sure you believe that the values of climbing are represented here.
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Jello
Social climber
No Ut
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 3, 2007 - 04:05pm PT
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You are mistaken, Troy. Ogden Climbing Parks is not a part of any larger "development" project taking place in the area. I assume you're referring to Chris Peterson's proposal to develop a ski area on his property, which includes Waterfall Canyon. OCP has nothing to do with that. We have, however, entered into an agreement with Chris wherein I traded the design of some va feratta in Waterfall Canyon, for the right of all "real" climbers, to climb in the Canyon freely and at no charge. In constructing the via feratta, a new trail was built that gives access to previously untouched beginner to intermediate climbing, and a handful of potential sport routes. Additionally, Chris has agreed to let us do some low-impact ice farming on his cliffs. I think it's a good trade-off.
Whether or not the resort development will go in, in Malan's Basin which lies about a mile east of and above Waterfall Canyon, I don't know. There are a million hurdles for Chris to leap, before it can happen. He has a dream, which is being put to private and public scrutiny. If he succeeds in realizing his dream, it will be a tribute to his tenacity. Personally, I have mixed feelings about the resort, but I'm a believer in private property rights, and if Chris can answer satisfactorily all the challenges being put to him, I can see the benefits it might have for the Ogden economy. But I repeat, Ogden Climbing Parks, and I personally, have nothing to do with the resort plans.
-Jeff Lowe
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Nohea
Trad climber
Aiea,Hi
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You mean I can bring my mtn bike as well? Sweet! Naw this trip will be climbing.
Mack, I am just going to play it by ear. I’ll go according to Jello’s schedule. I may visit my folks in upstate NY this fall. If so I’ll shoot you an email and maybe I could trouble you to show me some Vermont rock. I always go up to the Daks when I visit them.
Aloha,
wil
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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So what happened with this?
What is the status of Ogden Climbing Parks and the Climbing Festival for 2008?
the LVC ice thread got me thinking.
thx,
M
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Ammon and Gabe's Mom
climber
Lake Arrowhead, CA
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Jello,
I am now living in Ogden, if your project needs more money I could donate some art work for an auction or whatever. Maybe you could ask everyone to donate something that could be sold for the cause. I also think a taco fest sounds great. Let me know, joan@eCelebrityPortraits.com
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O.D.
Trad climber
LA LA Land
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Jello -- that's so commendable to provide something so positive for the community.
As a high-schooler I was totally inspired by what guys like you and Grello were doing in the early 1970s. So inspired in fact that my climbing buddy and I found a nearby concave mountain face that, to our teenage adventure-inspired minds, seemed an awful lot like the Eiger nordwand. We made a mid-winter ascent (to get maximum Eiger-like conditions) which turned out to be quite an epic -- including a nighttime start and bivouac to avoid out the avalanches which roar down the lower face. You ought to recognize this mountain, as I imagine it's pretty much in your backyard..
I may not be one of the $3k fat cats you're looking for but I'll find a way to contribute to your endeavor. And the Taco Fest idea sounds great -- it'd be fun to get back to the hometown for something so worthy.
EDIT: Duh, just realized I'm about a year late -- but I hope Jello's initiative is moving forward.
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Jello
Social climber
No Ut
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 11, 2008 - 01:38am PT
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Munge- we've kind of gone off the deep end with the ice tower. We've moved the location to downtown, and re-designed it for year-round use. Of course this means the price tag has gone way up, too, so we're still raising money. But the city is behind the project all the way, and we'll get it done. Wil and his wife, Julie came last month and we had a great time eating and drinking, and Wil got some good climbing in with his guide, Doug Nidever. Next month Mack is coming. Doug will again be the guide. I'm really enjoying the slave part, especially since I had the full assistance of my daughter, Sonja, to do the shopping and cooking!
Joan, that's a great offer! Let's get together and discuss your ideas! My officve phone is 392-9181.
OD, that sounds like a real adventure! The picture below is the south side of Ben Lomond, in winter conditions. Probably more like the conditions you experienced?
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