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micronut

Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
Topic Author's Original Post - May 18, 2019 - 09:14am PT
Its called “Supertaco Refugees”. Just search for it. You have to put in a request and I will accept it.


It’s not a perfect fix, and it would require you to....gasp!.... use your actual real name, but it might be a way to stay in touch as this place burns to the ground.

I have met some amazing people on this site and there is amazing content in the form of trip reports, videos, historical threads that could be easily cut and pasted over to a Facebook Group before this place turns the lights out. And like I said, it’s not perfect, Facebook would immediately own it all anyway.... but they own all my other stuff so who cares.

It has been created and is now up and running, but I would have discretion to boot people off if they become violent, foul, hateful, etc....But these rules and rags are standard fare for Facebook groups and have been for years. A couple of the groups that I belong to have over 5000 members. When people use their real names, things tend to stay fairly civil.

I have started with a whole bunch of initial invites of some of you who are already Facebook friends with me. Then you can invite people as you want. We can make it as private or as public as we want. But it would be cool to immediately cut and paste some of the better ST content ( historical threads, good writing, informational posts) into the group immediately. Just make sure it’s your own content as per Cmac and RJ’s request.

I would love to stay in touch with a lot of you, and many of us are already Facebook friends, but getting people like Donini, Largo, Werner and some of the regulars could create enough of a critical mass to create something good over there. Like I said, not a perfect fix, but a good way to keep in touch as this thing falls apart. I can explain to some of your old fogeys how it works if you’re keen.

Scott

Come and find us!


P.S. I ended up using the name SUPERTACO after RJ specifically requested that I did not use the name Supertopo. Hopefully we don’t get sued by a taco truck user.
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
May 18, 2019 - 10:21am PT
Facebook, where you are the product....
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
May 18, 2019 - 10:30am PT
Will never have anything to do with FB myself.
Mike.

climber
May 18, 2019 - 12:39pm PT
Sorry, no FB.
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
May 18, 2019 - 01:10pm PT
As mentioned, no FB for me, either.

Kudos for the effort, though.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
May 18, 2019 - 01:16pm PT
I'll have exactly zero to do with FB. There are probably many like me.

A ST replacement has to be a genuine replacement, which means that somebody without an ax to grind (via heavy-handed "management") needs to put up and manage an actual forum.

The problem, imo, is that ST evolved organically, and that sort of evolution can't be just "made" to happen, even by "creating the right conditions."

FB is, imo, certainly not even "the right conditions."

Thanks for the effort, seriously, but FB is not the answer.

Edit: I see that as I typed this, several others agreed on the FB point. Again, there are many of us.
zip

Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
May 18, 2019 - 01:20pm PT
Couldn’t find it
rmuir

Social climber
From the Time Before the Rocks Cooled.
May 18, 2019 - 01:28pm PT
Couldn’t find it

Yep… It seems to not exist.
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
May 18, 2019 - 01:39pm PT
Of course micronut's no one can find....but my illegal Super Topo Campfire is up and running on FB and I can't figure out how to change the name. Go figure.
micronut

Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
Topic Author's Reply - May 18, 2019 - 03:41pm PT
Lynnie. Mine is up and running and I would be glad to transfer it to yours to make it easy. I’m just glad you are stoked and that we are on the same page. If you want to delete yours, go ahead, I already have invited about 140 people and it seems like it’s gaining some traction with about 30 members so far.

If you want to keep yours, I can shut mine down immediately but we would need to do so pretty quickly.




Its called “Supertaco Refugees”. Just search for it. You have to put in a request and I will accept it. Badabigbaddaboom.

Just let me know what you think. I’m just going to keep this thing rolling and be available.
I might even delete this thread in a day or so to keep some continuity and draw people to the other thread. Just thinking out loud.
Radical Rebirth

Trad climber
Texas
May 18, 2019 - 03:44pm PT
Invite me Micronut when you get a sec

Doesn’t show up
Riley Wyna
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
May 18, 2019 - 03:48pm PT
I can't find it?! And I'm familiar with FB. Typed in your title in the top upper left and clicked on the magnifying glass. I'd love for you to take over.
rincon

climber
Coarsegold
May 18, 2019 - 03:55pm PT
Search FB 'groups' for supertaco refugees.

Pop's right up!
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
May 18, 2019 - 04:04pm PT
Thanks, Rincon! I'm in.
micronut

Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
Topic Author's Reply - May 18, 2019 - 04:04pm PT
Looks like you’re in Lynne!

Riley....search for it in “ Facebook groups”. It should be there.
Tricouni

Mountain climber
Glenn Woodsworth, Vancouver BC
May 18, 2019 - 05:21pm PT
Micronut, rincon, I can't find it; it must be a hidden or closed group. Can you send me an invite? Glenn Woodsworth gwoodsworth@hotmai.com

Thanks
Tricouni
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
May 18, 2019 - 05:30pm PT
Has everyone found the FB connection? If not please let us know.
Tricouni

Mountain climber
Glenn Woodsworth, Vancouver BC
May 18, 2019 - 05:31pm PT
Lynne, I can't find it. Please send me an invite.
Glenn Woodsworth aka tricouni gwoodsworth@hotmail.com
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
May 18, 2019 - 05:33pm PT
Has everyone found the FB connection? If not please let us know.

Finding this group is difficult, because simply searching for "Supertaco Refugees" doesn't show it. I'm not a facebooker, and it took me several tries to find a way to search for "groups". And since I stumbled into it by accident, I can't tell anyone how to do it.

Maybe one of you facebook types can provide clear directions?
cybele

Ice climber
Salt Lake City
May 18, 2019 - 05:34pm PT
I can't find it either, when searching it does not appear for me.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
May 18, 2019 - 05:34pm PT
Type Supertaco Refugees in the search box,when results come up look over on the header where it says "groups" and double click "groups".It should come up ,just did for me.


I hope I am not "A fb type"....lol
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
May 18, 2019 - 05:42pm PT
Did you find it Brockman?
briham89

Big Wall climber
santa cruz, ca
May 18, 2019 - 06:03pm PT
Here's the group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/449723832238919/
ron gomez

Trad climber
May 18, 2019 - 06:04pm PT
Kat! If I got it....you’ll find it.....go to bottom of FB page, on right, 3 lines for menu, hit it. Go down to groups...hit it, go to search, hit it....then you got it
Peace
jogill

climber
Colorado
May 18, 2019 - 06:12pm PT
No FB for me. Active years ago and got hacked twice.
Brockman

climber
May 18, 2019 - 06:12pm PT
For the love of Pete. . . those who know where this page is. . . just copy the frikken URL and post it up.

Sheesh!
Bobbleseth

Trad climber
Utah
May 18, 2019 - 06:13pm PT


What a great start...

Who doesn't like rules???... (Rules are from the FaceBook Taco page)





"Group Rules from the Admins
1
Be Kind and Courteous
We're all in this together to create a welcoming environment. Let's treat everyone with respect. Healthy debates are natural, but kindness is required.

2
Respect Everyone's Privacy
Being part of this group requires mutual trust. Authentic, expressive discussions make groups great, but may also be sensitive and private. What's shared in the group should stay in the group.

3
No Hate Speech or Bullying
Bullying of any kind isn't allowed, and super degrading comments just for the sake of mean-ness will not be tolerated.

4
No Promotions or Spam
Give more than you take to this group. Self-promotion, spam and irrelevant links aren't allowed."
wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
May 18, 2019 - 06:20pm PT
May be why I am still "pending",LOL.

Supertaco level 2
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
May 18, 2019 - 06:26pm PT
https://www.facebook.com/groups/449723832238919/ Ekat, Brockman et al, here it is.
Brockman

climber
May 18, 2019 - 06:32pm PT
I "joined" but it's like frikken dial-a-ride. . .

tick tock tick tock tick tock . . . .

Is Verizon down, or what?

:-/

eKaterinaBallerina _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ah hell, you know the rest!
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
May 18, 2019 - 06:45pm PT
It's as fast as ST. Something must be less than usual optimum somewhere in the wild blue yonder.
WBraun

climber
May 18, 2019 - 06:54pm PT
Looks way tooooo sterile .....
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
May 18, 2019 - 06:54pm PT
That's why we're here on the Taco.
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
May 18, 2019 - 07:03pm PT
anything you load to FB becomes property of the zuckerlord.

bbp biohazard is/used to be an important spice of life here.

I think real name stuff is cute and all, too, but part of the goodness here was in the anonymity of the old wild and - gasp! - anarchic internets.
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
May 18, 2019 - 07:43pm PT
hey there, say, micronut and lynne...

i will go look...


also, madbolter1, as to this quote of yours:

A ST replacement has to be a genuine replacement, which means that somebody without an ax to grind (via heavy-handed "management") needs to put up and manage an actual forum.

The problem, imo, is that ST evolved organically, and that sort of evolution can't be just "made" to happen, even by "creating the right conditions."


yes, i can see that... the evolution...
and chris 'did not grind away' at folks-- thus,it grew in 'leaps and bounds' ...

that was a nice way of putting it... :)





say-- i will miss everyone, so, i will go mosey on over,
to see what micronut or lynne, can do as to keeping
in touch with folks, from here...


:)
Spider Savage

Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
May 18, 2019 - 08:12pm PT
Im in.
Aeriq

Sport climber
100-year Visitor
May 18, 2019 - 09:32pm PT
I wouldn't care to join an organization that would accept me as a member...
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
May 18, 2019 - 10:15pm PT
Silly Mon, you are already on FB.....you don't need to join FB STR if you don't feel like it.
Brockman

climber
May 19, 2019 - 04:59am PT
Verizon was down up here all day yesterday . . . things are looking up, this morning.

NO.

MORE.

DIAL-A-RIDE!

:-)
Jan

Mountain climber
Colorado & Nepal
May 19, 2019 - 10:20am PT
I'm in if the'll have me.
phylp

Trad climber
Upland, CA
May 19, 2019 - 01:15pm PT
Thanks for organizing this Scott. I just sent in my request.
Phyl
Roadie

Trad climber
moab UT
May 19, 2019 - 04:21pm PT
Hey Scott, I hate the book of face!!! a lot!!! I'll look but only half heartedly. Still looking for better format, ideas? Steve
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
May 19, 2019 - 04:27pm PT
It’s gonna take more than Faceplant to entice me into tormenting y’all.
Roadie

Trad climber
moab UT
May 19, 2019 - 04:31pm PT
Nope, couldn't find it. But I'm computer moron. And Facebook is evil.
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
May 19, 2019 - 04:48pm PT
Reilly & Roadie

& all who'll not plant a steamy wet kiss on a Zuckerbeger

don't drop the ball send Tarbuster an Email

I'm seemingly in ok company in not being dragged into that monster

but most likely I'll just drop back into obscurity

I am in fact a lover of Diabase.
The type of rock I hail from
& where I spent an inordinate amount of time as a youth

I am back to it now, after having made a bed of white Quartzite for 25 years
So here, where the hillsides' shoulders, all that is left of the mountains,
welcome me with crisp incut holds on variously orange to grey
tortoise-shell colored rock
I can be found at the Gnome name
All One Word
No Spaces or CapitalLetters

I sure have had a good time trying to absorb what you all have been putting out
I feel like I was drinking right alongside you and reading the very best things that there has been to read in these end-times

Stay away from cattle prods and powderd liquor
cheap is only a state of poverty
Michael
Gnome Ofthe Diabase
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
May 19, 2019 - 04:50pm PT
My people are in contact with Tarbaby’s. 😉
Failing that my bro is only an hour or so away.
Right now I’m 10 hours away, at Mach 0.81, give a tenth or two.
zBrown

Ice climber
May 19, 2019 - 07:09pm PT
Thanks for your efforts.

It is kind of hard to follow.

Maybe even harder to lead.



Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
May 20, 2019 - 04:41am PT
Did this fall apart?
Gunkie

Trad climber
Valles Marineris
May 20, 2019 - 05:34am PT
I don't use Facebook. Thanks for the effort anyway. I am sure a lot of folks will make use of that.
climbski2

Mountain climber
The Ocean
May 20, 2019 - 05:38am PT
IS RC.n00b still around ill bet its an empty space that could be used..

ahh yes i see the last post in the bigwall section is from last september..lol

probably be months before they even have an admin to mess with us

I try hard to keep my name off the internet. Nothing good comes of it unless carefully tailored for business purposes.
micronut

Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
Topic Author's Reply - May 20, 2019 - 08:08am PT
Jaybro, no....its up and running and doing better than I would have thought.

151 members and people requesting to join by the hour. 1,300 posts, comments and reactions as of this morning. Come jump on board. Its not perfect....but neither was Supertopo. (No email function, no liking or relating to comments in real time, clunky photo and vieo uploading.) We'll see!

Roadie, you need to get over there man! There are some great folks already on there and your writing and contributions are some of the best on the internet. Come give it a chance. I will personally miss your stories and writing when ST folds up next week. Facebook, with all its warts and issues, could still be a great venue for you to share your creative side. Think about it at least.

Scott
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
May 20, 2019 - 08:21am PT
I applied for refugee status here today. They were very encouraging!
burnin' vernon

climber
May 20, 2019 - 09:49am PT
Why, oh why, would anybody want to have _any_thing_ to do with Facebook?

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/05/18/democrats-facebook-stoller-226930

Are you folks ignorant, as in unaware, of just how bad this company is?

I am a backend IT Geek so maybe stuff I perceive as common knowledge is not?


Crazy....
Happiegrrrl2

Trad climber
May 20, 2019 - 10:05am PT
I just sent my request to join.

At one point BITD when RC.com was kicking people out, and I thought people ought be allowed to "be themself" online, I created a discussion forum board via https://www.proboards.com/free-forum-features

The one I made is defunct now, but it is NOT HARD to set up and run a board with this platform. It gives quite a bit for free - certainly enough to keep the SuperMen and TacoBelles (and to stay current let's include all the gender ingredients that made up the TacoSalad and just go with that).

A part of me, being the entrepreneur is saying "Make a new forum!!!" The more reasonable part of me is reminding me that I need to remain focused on my jewelry craft work and the business end of that.

However.... I couldn't stop myself. I claimed a board I've called ClimbersTacoSalad.

IF the WideFetish doesn't want to become a place for everybody and then some of their alts - which I can understand, and if people want to avoid the streets of Facebook - which I definitely understand, and IF people WANT a discussion forum board - I will set it up and continue, and ask for a few volunteers to help Admin/Moderate.

If not, then I won't.
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
May 20, 2019 - 10:17am PT
Man, I hope someone else is looking into a more sustainable, accessible alternative to ST than Facebook.
Roadie

Trad climber
moab UT
May 20, 2019 - 10:39am PT
Hi Scott, just emailed you. Text me! Just tried again to find it on book o face, no luck in looking for supertaco refugees in search bar. ???. Or friend me on facebook, which i'm embarrassed to say I'm on. S
micronut

Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
Topic Author's Reply - May 20, 2019 - 11:48am PT
Hey Roadie, the ST email function is messed up. The trick to finding the group is to search in the seach tab UNDER the "groups" tab on Facebook. Searching for it under the general use search-bar wont find it. my email is emailthejetts@gmail.com if you have any other questions. I hate the big monster of Facebook just as much as the next guy but its a good venue for sharing climbing and creative stoke and there's already tons of ST folks over there.
Robb

Social climber
Cat Box
May 20, 2019 - 12:05pm PT
Looking forward to seeing y'all over there.
Robb
jogill

climber
Colorado
May 20, 2019 - 01:18pm PT
A fundamental question that arises before any of this is resolved is the following:

After June 1st how are current members of ST notified of new forums being created?
looking sketchy there...

Social climber
Lassitude 33
May 20, 2019 - 01:23pm PT
Never have and never will do FB. Not sure why anyone would. Yet, every new and disturbing revelation about it doesn't seem to faze the addicted.

Sorry ST is going away as it had some unique content (hidden amongst the standard garbage).

Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
May 20, 2019 - 02:07pm PT
John Gill, I think many of us think of FB just for this purpose....a stopgap until someone steps up.

sketchy....just a way to stay in touch with folk. With friends and family all over the States and the World what other options do we have? Hope all is great!
brotherbbock

climber
So-Cal
May 20, 2019 - 02:34pm PT
Ahh damn though it was a website....

I'm off social media.
overwatch

climber
Arizona
May 20, 2019 - 02:55pm PT



Never have and never will do FB. Not sure why anyone would. Yet, every new and disturbing revelation about it doesn't seem to faze the addicted
+1,000,000,000^^^^^

Thanks for the link Burnin' Vernon, FFBF
Jamesthomsen

Social climber
Mammoth Lakes, California
May 20, 2019 - 05:15pm PT
https://www.facebook.com/groups/449723832238919/
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