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ron gomez

Trad climber
May 13, 2019 - 05:43am PT
Thanks for the heads up, will be sad if this goes....so much history, so many stories, it bonded a community and allowed for renewed friendships.
Thanks Chris....do what is best for you and your crew, i feel a lot of us get it.
Peace
climbski2

Mountain climber
The Ocean
May 13, 2019 - 06:44am PT
Thank you Chris.

The writing was on the wall anyway. I'll copy some of the stuff I have here that I wrote. What little is of any real value lol.

My deep respect for the time and effort you put into making a great campfire as long as it has lasted.
Jan

Mountain climber
Colorado & Nepal
May 13, 2019 - 07:09am PT
Thanks to Supertopo I was able to reconnect with the climbing world and old friends after many years away, resolve a lot of karma, be entertained by our history, learn a lot of science and stretch my intellect in many other ways on the What is Mind thread. It's inspiring how many different niches ST occupied in my life. Nothing will ever replace it.

Please give us as much advance notice as possible before closing. A deadline always inspires action even though I had already been downloading my favorite threads.

And do consider putting the historical material into some kind of archive.

Many thanks for the wonderful years I was able to participate.
Happiegrrrl2

Trad climber
May 13, 2019 - 07:37am PT
Thanks for the update Chris.

Are you CONSIDERING sale of the domain and forum? Or is that too difficult due to being somehow interconnected with the gear review site?

If not, this would actually be a great time for someone to launch a new climbing site if they wanted to. If I had funding, I would. But I don't, so I can't. If somebody who does have funding wants a creative "ideas person" on their team, I'm happy to brainstorm(for a percentage of the forum income). Contact me through TalismanToo.Etsy.com.

If anyone thinks it's just "old men" here, they are wrong. There is a sizable amount of lurkers. I know from meeting people all the time who don't post, or post very little, but still read the forums. Maybe not enough to make a site financially workable, but that doesn't mean a site that IS financially workable isn't possible.

Although if said person insists that being able to be jerks and nasty and threaten others is part of the equation for success, not going to be sustainable and I wouldn't be interested. If you need to be as#@&%es, there's Youtube. Have at it.
ddriver

Trad climber
SLC, UT
May 13, 2019 - 07:53am PT
Other forums enable user donations instead of paid memberships. Seems a better fit for this group. Hold a fundraising drive once or twice a year using paypal or whatever works for you.
John M

climber
May 13, 2019 - 08:02am PT
I'm guessing its less about the money and more about the hassle. Its like being on the board of an HOA or on a city planning board. Too many headaches because its impossible to please everyone. Its pretty weird how much hatred this place can generate. Its gotta be hard dealing with that all the time.

But yep.. I would donate if that would help.

Thanks for all of your effort Guys!
JLP

Social climber
The internet
May 13, 2019 - 08:06am PT
Other forums enable user donations
Yes, I agree and have seen this appear to work well enough.

Another thing I've seen is for a forum to pick up a few primary sponsors - like REI and MP.com, but not necessarily as formal or in an ownership sense.

This all reeks of contemplating options to deal with some lawsuit threat.

I don't know how he'd separate the cost of the forum from the cost of the site as a whole to support his guidebook business - other than the soft cost of maintenance time.
MGuzzy

Trad climber
Orangevale
May 13, 2019 - 08:10am PT
Thanks for your efforts Chris, RJ and everyone else working on the backend.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
May 13, 2019 - 08:14am PT
I doubt the dirtbags would make a fundraiser worth holding. They’ve clearly not responded adequately to the gay cruise and Bentley ads.
Don Paul

Social climber
Washington DC
May 13, 2019 - 08:17am PT
Appreciate the 18 years of work you put in. Has been great entertainment but nothing lasts forever. I agree with comment above that domain name should be turned over to someone who wants to take the reins.
Da-Veed

Big Wall climber
Bigfork
May 13, 2019 - 08:23am PT
Thanks Chris for all you have done, I have been on this site since the beginning (I have changed my login a few times). I hope it doesn't go away but with all the political BS I see on here in the last few years I would fully understand.

I kinda feel like I'm being broken up with!

Gunkie

Trad climber
Valles Marineris
May 13, 2019 - 08:47am PT
Three words: Go Fund Me

I'll absolutely contribute. Set a goal; let it rip.
limpingcrab

Gym climber
Minkler, CA
May 13, 2019 - 08:52am PT
I guess it holds true

Lawsuits ruin everything
telemon01

Trad climber
Montana
May 13, 2019 - 09:18am PT
People say herding cats is difficult -

Well Cmac has gone one further by herding monkeys

Well done Chris, thank you for creating the Supertopo Universe.
I’ve learned a lot and have enjoyed my time here
micronut

Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
May 13, 2019 - 09:31am PT
Thanks Chris for taking the time to touch base with "the people." We appreciate the effort you've put into keeping this place a living breathing thing over the years.

It will be a real tragedy if it goes. It's the virtual Camp 4 of the climbing world and there's no denying it.

Hopefully somebody will create another genuine online place to hang out, meet good people, slander a bit and enjoy the stoke from behind the keyboard when we can't be outside. It's my hope you realize the worth of this place and the real relationships that have been made from this forum.

Because of this place and this place alone
I've.....


Attempted El Cap and sat on many summits with Mark Hudon
Fished the East Walker and Hot Creek with Stimbo
Become close personal friends with Limpingcrab (pros and cons..)
Caught the biggest trout of my life on Pyramid Lake with WTF
Bushwacked through poison Oak forests with Jaybro
Ran into more than a handful of Supertopo users on Tuolumne or Valley routes and have always enjoyed the random "Hey! You're Micronut! I love your trip reports!"

All of these were complete strangers before The Taco and I'm grateful to now call them friends.
Gunks Guy

Trad climber
New Paltz
May 13, 2019 - 10:18am PT
Chris,
Please consider gofundme if it's really the cost issue.

If it's more complicated than that, any chance of releasing it open source or public domain? I bet there are people here with skills that would be willing to keep it going.

In any case, thanks for doing this for the community for all those years.
Happiegrrrl2

Trad climber
May 13, 2019 - 10:20am PT
Because of Supertopo I:

 Went to Facelift
 Went to SushiFest
 Felt kinda like I had someone along for the ride on my cross-country trips in a van I sometimes worried about
 Got support from people to get myself a few miles further down the road on many an occasion
 Realized that my creative work was valued
 Climbed routes in CA/AZ that I otherwise wouldn't have
 Learned a lot of interesting tidbits about politics, climbing, cooking and many other topics
 Had the opportunity to be there for someone when they were struggling and allowed themself to be vulnerable enough to post about it



Ward Trotter

Trad climber
May 13, 2019 - 10:23am PT
Thanks, Chris.
Mike Bolte

Trad climber
Planet Earth
May 13, 2019 - 11:04am PT
Thanks Chris! This has been a terrific service to a large community. I personally have learned so much history, met or reconnected with many good folks, and got turned on to some great places/climbs. If a funding model gets adopted/attempted, I will certainly be on board to contribute.

best, Mike
matty

Trad climber
under the sea
May 13, 2019 - 11:37am PT
Having a membership due or a verified membership program might help prevent people from trolling and posting inappropriate/copyrighted material...but that would also discourage new users from posting/joining. Dunno the answer but I'm sure many of us here would be willing to pay in one form or another to help run the site depending on the details.
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