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donald perry

Trad climber
kearny, NJ
Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 27, 2019 - 05:29pm PT
I am starting a new discussion board and calling it SUPERBACKUP.

Basically the style will be the same as here. It will look the same and feel the same but the rules have changed: I love to moderate trolls.

Trolling will be tolerated until someone messages the moderators on our own thread (me and 9 others) who will initially warnings.

Posts will not be deleted by management.

Accounts will be suspended until people cool off.

Mad-Hatters will only be allowed to post x number of times a week.

Everything will be done by vote, 10 people will run the forum, who will in turn work for the forum members and not the other way around.

Posters will own their own content and be allowed to change their posts or delete them at any time, unless someone quotes them. When responding it will be a good idea to quote what you are responding to.

Each member will be screened to keep spammers off.

Only climbers and their friends allowed.

I think I can run a forum with minimal interaction, not as stringent as gunks.com. What the hell happened to that thing anyway?

The idea here is to create together, historical content which will have eternal significance and having backup, will never nowise be deleted. The forum will have a new MO.

smash, Smash, SMASH! - Songify This: "No matter what you've done you deserve respect, even if you make mistakes, your lovable, doesn't matter your looks, skills, or age or size or anything, your worthwhile, no one can ever take that away from you, your worthwhile, no one can ever take that away from you."
donald perry

Trad climber
kearny, NJ
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 27, 2019 - 06:35pm PT
This is what I mean about too much moderation:

http://www.rockclimbing.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2650411;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;
ruppell

climber
Apr 27, 2019 - 06:41pm PT
I think I can run a forum with minimal interaction, not as stringent as gunks.com. What the hell happened to that thing anyway?

It died with the 90's. I'm pretty sure your ranting, lack of punctuation, and flat out take over of many threads lead to it's demise as well. Plus, it was run from Chris from the GCC. That combo was toxic. Maybe if he had ten jurors to help mitigate the sh#t show it would still be around. But most likely not.
donald perry

Trad climber
kearny, NJ
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 27, 2019 - 07:12pm PT
Gunks.com was being migrated to a new version of the same, everything was in the process of being moved over. (I had nothing to do with it's demise, rather I spammed the spammers, and I still have some copies of the threads.) Then all of a sudden, seemingly, nothing! I asked the moderator to sell it to me, he just sat on it.

ruppell

climber
Apr 27, 2019 - 07:50pm PT
For f*#ks sake man go talk to Chris. He still owns the domain. Make him an offer to buy it then run it however you see fit. The site always sucked but maybe you'll change that.
donald perry

Trad climber
kearny, NJ
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 28, 2019 - 06:39am PT
I asked him if it was for sale on facebook. No repose, as of yet.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Apr 28, 2019 - 09:57am PT
buahaha

superbackup.com is for sale!
donald perry

Trad climber
kearny, NJ
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 28, 2019 - 01:04pm PT
Okay, I bought it:


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Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Apr 28, 2019 - 05:07pm PT
Wide fetish name has more class
L

climber
Just livin' the dream
Apr 28, 2019 - 05:15pm PT
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supperbackup.com

Hmmm....Supperbackup.com

Kinda makes me hungry......
donald perry

Trad climber
kearny, NJ
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 28, 2019 - 05:35pm PT
"Wide fetish name has more class"

Maybe you don't understand what I'm doing.
donald perry

Trad climber
kearny, NJ
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 28, 2019 - 05:44pm PT
Just got a response from Gunks.com. "not for sale. 6 more months of grad school, then back to the Valley." I suppose you should consider all those posts deleted. Perhaps he will make a book out of it and sell it. The TOS on these forms are that once you post you do not own the post anymore, right? I would like to change that, and this way the person who posts can be responsible for photos.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Apr 28, 2019 - 07:30pm PT
The problem with this proposed site, as with several other "history archives" that have been proposed/started, is that the principle people involved have a public persona that provides no sense of credibility regarding the nature of the moderation.

By stark contrast, SuperTopo has become what it is organically and without some "cause" that the forums needed to reflect.

I think that the fact that a NEW sense of "cause" has emerged around here, and that it's lawyer-driven, is the basis of the sense of betrayal among many long-time participants.

Good luck with the effort, but I won't bother with it.
donald perry

Trad climber
kearny, NJ
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 28, 2019 - 09:59pm PT
All I am attempting to provide is a place where things don't disappear, as they have with gunks.com or now with supertopo. I have a friend who had all his posts deleted who tells of the massive obliteration of route and area information of others as well, without warning and seemingly without reason. It will only work if people gain an interest in it, which may never happen. All I want to do is create the possibility for this to happen in some kind of context where important contributions are insured to remain. What I think important would not count in this case. The ground rules need to change for this to take place. I trust you understand my concern. The goal of the project is preservation, something I did not think was important until now. It does not seem to me that WideFetish Forum is geared with the same intrests, maybe I am wrong? If someone has a better idea in mind (rather then do nothing) I would like to know what it is.
Mike.

climber
Apr 29, 2019 - 07:31am PT
"The TOS on these forms are that once you post you do not own the post anymore, right?"


I thought you had all the answers. Nope, just another jag-off trying to be cute.
donald perry

Trad climber
kearny, NJ
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 29, 2019 - 07:40am PT
If I had all the answers Mike I probably would not be writing this post or this thread. I wonder what I would be doing instead. Probably not reading threads, right?

Now if I thought I had all the answers ... you really don't want a smart guy do you? The dumber the better.

What happened to your thumbnail Mike?

Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Apr 29, 2019 - 10:16am PT
Time for supper!
Gunkie

Trad climber
Valles Marineris
Apr 29, 2019 - 01:33pm PT
Gunks.com.... geez, it was like 6 isolated desk jockeys yammering back and forth every few days. I occasionally jumped in as a 7th isolated desk jockey. Nice folks, but Donny, you crushed that place like a penny placed on the train tracks. Besides, climbing in the Gunks only holds so many good stories.

donald perry

Trad climber
kearny, NJ
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 29, 2019 - 07:49pm PT
Sh#t! I spelled supper rather then superbackup!

Now I understand "Hmmm....Supperbackup.com

Kinda makes me hungry......" WTH!
Mtnmun

Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
Apr 29, 2019 - 07:58pm PT
If I get too much salt in the gravy, I will need a supper backup for sure.
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