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WBraun

climber
May 8, 2019 - 04:54pm PT
Klimmer can see tons of sh!t you never could ......
overwatch

climber
Arizona
May 8, 2019 - 04:57pm PT
tons of sh!t

you got that right
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
May 8, 2019 - 07:15pm PT
Added & Edited; 5/5/19, 5/6/19

It bothers me that my youtube feed is now getting crap recommended
I am getting BS conspiracy stuff & "phaux propaganda, as well as much more "stuff" geared toward those who are the low & un-educated types, who have given up thinking for themselves & are falling in line as did the German population, did in the 1930s.

When the lies keep verifying guilt,
when every statement fails to be honest
when falsehoods/fake facts are held up as real, and facts/truths called fake:
you as a thinking person need to look at why it is,
who is the recipient of favor,
why scapegoat the weakest in society

everyone needs to learn about the rise of fascism

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below is the type of wholesale idiotic garbage that I am ashamed to have show up on my dedicated to:
Rock Climbing/Grateful Dead/Bluegrass/Blues/Jazz/Funk/Rock `n Roll
(& recently, now, very Mysangonistic leaning Yoga) Youtube channel



https://youtu.be/Qcv9fOaTHks




I did not watch the video from some outfit theGrowingInsanity,
but from briefly looking but not reading anyone entirely three or 4 of the comments I thought of the following


Before the tragic death of his wife, Liam Neeson Lived part time in Highfalls Ny(the "other side" of Mohonk mnt) was a regular at & bought an interest in a small commercial property there, he was very approachable, sometimes sharing early mornings having coffee and a completely liberal-minded actor from the upper west side of Manhatten. where he had known JFK Jr. and the circle of very Liberal Democrats. He and his wife were friends of many fashion models who despised & ridiculed the toad-stool, now an illegitimate occupier of the presidency.

Any thoughts that JFK Jr would have or be in any way aligned with the swamp creature, oppressor, pussy grabber & thief who's blatant lying & total disregard for the law in general & the constitution as a whole ~ The one Who engaged in a treasonous conspiracy with a foreign enemy to rig the electoral process so conspicuously defeating democracy & destroying the United States is ridiculous
The magazine & its name was picked to pay homage to George Washington & to decry lying. It was a mouthpiece to spout a
an extremely liberal - pro-women's, pro-abortion pro-human- rights. It championed the poor and offered internships to street people, gave generously to causes like sufferers of Alopecia (bald women) & gay men.

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Klimmer2.0

Mountain climber
San Diego, CA
Topic Author's Reply - May 9, 2019 - 10:16am PT
divad said:

Klimmer, look at the difference in the ears in the pix you posted, there're not the same. Explain this if you can. I'll give you the differences in the noses as I suppose he could have broken it while climbing. Enquiring minds want to know..



Hopefully you do know that JFK JR. enjoyed/enjoys acting and playing a part. He got into acting in college and was even in a off-Broadway show production afterwards. He had a GF who was very much into acting and they were in the same production and hit it off for about 10 years or so as a couple. He did however, then end up marrying someone else. His past GF writes about this in her memoir "Come to the Edge: A Love Story"
by Christina Haag.

As a very famous person, who constantly had Secret Service agents watching over him, who is now supposed to be dead, he needs to be in disguise to somewhat hide his identity. But he is putting out very obvious clues now at least over the last 2.5 years. He is wearing a nose bridge of some kind to give the obvious nose bump in those images. Zoom in. It doesn't look right. It looks fake. His ears in both pictures are exactly the same. Make sure you are not confusing shadow and light. The ears are identical.


And let's say he is still alive...so what?

Yes, it does matter very very much if he is alive, if they are alive. The truth matters.

If he is still alive, then someone, media, government, and "The Deep State" are all lying. Maybe it had to be this way to stop them (the deep state) from trying to assassinate him. Maybe the government, "the white Hats" in our government, had to protect him to keep him alive and knew they had to do this ultimate plan to do just that -- protect him and his family.

The Deep State, "the black hats," do not want the world to know what really happened. They want the world thinking he was a bad risky pilot and that JFK JR. death, and the death of his wife and his sister-in-law was just that an accident due to bad judgment and pilot error on his part. They don't want people knowing the truth. They don't want people knowing it was an assassination. They don't want people asking questions. People would look into it and then question why? People would ask, who wanted him dead? Who would gain by JFK JR.'s death? The media has to be kept in the dark too. They are the mouth piece of The Deep State to propagate the lies and to hide the truth.

JFK Jr., his wife, and sister-in-law are all very much alive. He is revealing himself slowly and publically now. I would suppose for the world to get used to the idea that he is still very much alive. Call it conditioning. They don't want people falling over dead from a heart attack if he was to just right out reveal himself and say "Hey here I am!!!!"

Many people would die of heart conditions. It would be too much to see someone so well beloved come back from the dead. Think about it. Let the news of the 3 of them still being alive slowly trickle out and go mouth to mouth and then people have the time to get used to the idea and then also to ask why did he/they have to do this? Easier on everyone's heart for sure. Even mine. And I'm in good shape :)


I have some visual evidences that will blow your socks off that verify that he/they are very much alive.

Exciting times we live in.


Now I would like to ask was JFK JR. a good climber? How hard could he climb? 5.10? 5.11? What do you think? I would say with his overall fitness he could/can pull down some 5.10s for sure.
brotherbbock

climber
So-Cal
May 9, 2019 - 10:27am PT
Now I would like to ask was JFK JR. a good climber? How hard could he climb? 5.10? 5.11? What do you think? I would say with his overall fitness he could/can pull down some 5.10s for sure.

Nice attempt to try and relate this to an actual climbing thread LOL.

I got temporarily banned for doing a similar thing.

BTW those comparison pics are pretty weak sauce...
divad

Trad climber
wmass
May 9, 2019 - 02:14pm PT
Exciting times we live in.

Yes Klimmer, these are exciting times, perhaps more for you than the rest of us..
overwatch

climber
Arizona
May 9, 2019 - 02:22pm PT
Yes, it does matter very very much if he is alive, if they are alive. The truth matters.

You couldn't just stop with one very? I hope you get to rub his feet someday.
Klimmer2.0

Mountain climber
San Diego, CA
Topic Author's Reply - May 10, 2019 - 07:21pm PT
Haters gotta hate. Notice I don't respond in kind. The Golden Rule. Apparently your mothers didn't teach you that very real Bible truth.

Shame.



I think JFK JR. is a great guy. He loves adventure. No doubt he has climbed at least some. He's had very well known climber's surrounding his life. How many of us can claim to have been taught to ski by Jim Whittaker? Or have a famous Uncle that made the first ascent of his father's name sake mountain in The Yukon? Or had Hans Kraus the famous Gunks climber and doctor around to be our father's personal back physician who indeed healed his father President JFK right at the end, to then only have his father's life taken from him, from all of us, by an assassin?

JFK JR. he's a good man. Our Nation needs him. I know he is alive and he is working hard to get our nation back from the Deep State that nearly sent our nation off the cliff into ruin. He would know this better than anyone. Think about it ... They nearly took his life too.


JFK JR. is an honorary member of "The Civilian SEALS." He's a member because he has those qualities and deep love of adventure. Not easy to qualify. He expounds Truth, Justice, and also a love of Adventure in Sea, Air, and Land. There really isn't any membership. You just R. JFK JR is.

JFK JR. lives.

I'm happy about that. I will be honest. The day I actually truly realized it was true ... I cried. They were tears of joy when I realized there really is sweet justice in the world and not all tragic stories end badly. Sometimes they are simply wonderful beginnings ...

It truly is an incredible story. Mind-blow really. Books and movies no doubt will be made about all of this. Awesome time we are living in.
divad

Trad climber
wmass
May 10, 2019 - 07:46pm PT
it's also nice to know that the Easter Bunny and Tooth Fairy are for real..
Klimmer2.0

Mountain climber
San Diego, CA
Topic Author's Reply - May 11, 2019 - 10:03am PT
Take another look at these images ...





Its JFK JR. No nose bump. That is background light and pattern not his nose. His nose is smooth and looks exactly as it should.
Klimmer2.0

Mountain climber
San Diego, CA
Topic Author's Reply - May 11, 2019 - 10:21am PT
Here is JFK JR’s Twitter page ...

https://mobile.twitter.com/John_F_Kennnedy


Take a look at the image of the VIP car with the 3 bright Suns. Who is inside the car?



Same image color enhanced to bring out the detail in the shadow areas...



Zoom in and look! There he is, JFK JR !!! As he has said “Games R fun!!!”

jogill

climber
Colorado
May 11, 2019 - 03:36pm PT
I suspect a virtual person like JFK, Jr. could easily handle 5.16.
There is no limit.
monolith

climber
state of being
May 11, 2019 - 06:50pm PT
Weak sauce again, Klimmer.
Klimmer2.0

Mountain climber
San Diego, CA
Topic Author's Reply - May 14, 2019 - 06:32pm PT
JFK JR. honorary member of "The Civilian SEALS." He embodies these qualities so he's an automatic member ...

By the way, many ways to be a member, do any SEA, AIR, and LAND adventures, do all 3, and they don't have to necessarily be these 6 logos that I've included in the design below. These activities just happen to be me mostly.

Other outdoor adventure activities will work:

SEA: Sailing would work. Sea kayaking would work. Windsurfing or kiteboarding will work. Free-diving would work. Surfing of course would work.

AIR: flying a craft of any kind and being the pilot in command would work. BASE jumping would work. Wing-suit flying would work.

LAND: Ice, or Alpine climbing, Mtn. climbing, or Backpacking or hiking would work. Mtn. biking would work. Skateboarding or Carveboarding would work. Snowboarding would work. You get the idea ...


Prototypes for my T-shirt design ...


US CIVILIAN SEAL



THE CIVILIAN SEALS

overwatch

climber
Arizona
May 14, 2019 - 07:16pm PT
Slap in the face to the real deal

Civilian SEALS are not US NAVY SEALS

No shit!

No association at all

Except for stealing their acronym.

Pretty cool actually. At least I think so

As long as you think so

Yes the acronym SEAL means

I knew what it means without Google

Rock on Klimmer! Make one, wear it and see how it goes.
Klimmer2.0

Mountain climber
San Diego, CA
Topic Author's Reply - May 14, 2019 - 07:48pm PT
Haters have to hate.

Lol.

Sad really.

Not a slap in the face to the real deal at all. Big difference. Civilian SEALS are not US NAVY SEALS. No association at all. Just a very informal association (no membership/no dues required), of people who are like minded and into Truth, Justice, and Adventure in the SEA, AIR, and LAND environments. People who like to do it all and have good skills in these outdoor adventure sports. That’s what’s required. You either have it or you don’t.

Pretty cool actually. At least I think so. Not starting a club. No membership. You just R and you know it.
Klimmer2.0

Mountain climber
San Diego, CA
Topic Author's Reply - May 14, 2019 - 09:08pm PT
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.military.com/special-operations/about-the-navy-seals.html/amp


Yes the acronym SEAL means:

SEa, Air, Land. Can that acronym really be only for the US NAVY? It’s an acronym that means 3 terrestrial environments. In a way it’s a physical geographic acronym. The fact that it is the same as a marine mammal called a “Seal” is an obvious association very useful for the Navy of course.

But I’m not using it that way. Not trying to associate with a marine mammal at all. But the acronym SEAL does mean the 3 physical geographical environments. In that way I’m using it but clearly disassociating in from the military by clearly using the pre curser term Civilian. Civilians we can also do adventure in SEA, AIR, and LAND, for peaceful adventuresome purposes.

It will be ok. Not using their logo. Not using their official name. Only an acronym that means 3 physical geographic environments.

It does suggest something strong and extraordinary. Civilians can do that too. Not intending to hurt or disrespect or take away from the military. In a strong way, it’s a tip of the hat to the military. I’m prior service US Army. No disrespect meant at all. It’s not easy to qualify even as a civilian. You have to have real skills in SEA, AIR, and LAND, outdoor adventure sports. Not everyone can do all of that. It’s kind of extraordinary and rare for someone to have all of these outdoor adventure skills in the 3 environments. People who have these skills civilian or military should feel some level of pride for having achieved these abilities.

It’s pretty cool really. 2 thumbs up cool.
Winemaker

Sport climber
Yakima, WA
May 14, 2019 - 09:29pm PT
It does suggest something strong and extraordinary. Civilians can do that too

Yeah, give it up. Your comment to the 'end of ST' thread was good. Maybe keep it at that and become normal.
Klimmer2.0

Mountain climber
San Diego, CA
Topic Author's Reply - May 14, 2019 - 09:39pm PT
WM,

Why be normal? Why do what everyone else is doing? Do something or be someone different. Don’t be boring. Change the world.
overwatch

climber
Arizona
May 14, 2019 - 09:48pm PT
Do something or be someone different. Don’t be boring. Change the world

one roll of Reynolds wrap at a time
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