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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Apr 23, 2019 - 01:26am PT
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hey there, say, john...
wow, as to your quote:
Apr 22, 2019 - 11:58pm PT
I live on the Big Island in Hawaii. I bought my Toyota Corrola 2 years ago.
My average speed for two years has been under 35 MPH. Pretty mellow here in Hamakua.
hee hee, sounds like my kind of place...
i am not feeling good at freeway driving, :O
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Apr 23, 2019 - 11:42am PT
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I live on the Big Island in Hawaii. The Big Island is awesome, but not a good location for a climber.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Apr 23, 2019 - 12:16pm PT
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Tolman Paul is living in a dream world, the commute from Eagle River was heinous 35 years ago! How can it not be worse now?
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tolman_paul
Trad climber
Anchorage, AK
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Apr 23, 2019 - 01:17pm PT
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The Eagle River commute is worse, which is why we moved from Eagle River to Anchorage four years ago. Mileage only dropped from 18 miles to 12 miles, but time wise my 45 min to 1 1/2 drives each way dropped to 20-30 minutes. I'm also 40 minutes closer to everything we do South of town, which seems to be our primary spot to recreate.
Way less stressful to spend under an hour commuting per day vs 2+ hours a day. That extra hour lets you get stuff done you wouldn't otherwise. When I was in the Bay Area I was 10 miles from work and it took me an hour and fifteen minutes to get to work, same on the way back, and that was 25 years ago.
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mooch
Trad climber
Tribal Base Camp (Riverkern Annex)
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Apr 23, 2019 - 02:59pm PT
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Hopscotch the rich culture, great culinary joints and wide diversity of people......eventually the traffic becomes your central focus. ;)
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aspendougy
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Apr 23, 2019 - 04:01pm PT
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Many routes are fine much of the time, I have gone from Malibu to Pasadena in 35 minutes. Some trips are bad all the time, and then others, it is Russian Roulette, sometimes traffic is fine, other times not. I would say on average, 70% of my trips are fine for traffic, and 30% are bad.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Apr 23, 2019 - 06:37pm PT
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I left that sh#t show to live close to Yosemite.
Oddly, Yosemite has the same problem now.
I am the problem.
There is no spoon.
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jeff constine
Trad climber
Ao Namao
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Apr 23, 2019 - 07:53pm PT
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no problem good climbing is about 1.2 hr drive away, if you know where to look.
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Larry Nelson
Social climber
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Apr 24, 2019 - 07:37am PT
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Is there a compassionate way to cull the herd?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Apr 24, 2019 - 07:39am PT
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The DMV could do that if it insisted on competence as a condition of obtaining a driver’s license.
3/4 of SoCal drivers wouldn’t get a license in Europe.
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capseeboy
Social climber
wandering star
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Apr 24, 2019 - 07:43am PT
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I am the problem.
Your not alone my friend.
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WBraun
climber
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Apr 24, 2019 - 08:03am PT
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Yes .... WE ARE THE PROBLEM.
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10b4me
Social climber
Lida Junction
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Apr 24, 2019 - 08:19am PT
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I've lived here all of my sixty five years, and have seen the traffic go from bad to horrible. There was a time, that if you started a road trip at three in the morning, you had the road to yourself. Those days are long gone.
At one time California drivers were known as being pretty good. Those days are long gone.
edit: several people have talked about using mass transit. Well, ridership is down. I guess gangbangers, drug dealers, and homeless people have an impact.
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capseeboy
Social climber
wandering star
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Apr 24, 2019 - 08:33am PT
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Few years back drove through Sacramento I-5 in early AM. Well, apparently it wasn't early enough. The smog/fog was thick and visibility was poor. Lord'e me. Did not matter, trucker's like bats out'a hell screaming up my bumper like no tomorrow. F'me. Had to speed up and drive blind or risk getting rear ended. Scared the liven bee jeezers out'a me. Same thing happened on a lonely road near Taft CA. Blows my mind. Made climbing seem safe in comparison. Hoohya! ps visibility was so poor I would pass an off ramp before I had time to take it. Full speed ahead and dam the torpedoes.
Edit:10b4me I feared getting on the light rail at PDX more than travel in Nicaragua, laugh not loud.
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G_Gnome
Trad climber
Cali
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Apr 24, 2019 - 09:01am PT
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I live 2.4 miles from work so my commute involves no freeway time. I also live as close to the edge of LA as I can so that my get out of town time is minimized. At the same time, I almost never go to JT anymore because of the drive.
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formerclimber
Boulder climber
CA
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Apr 24, 2019 - 09:50am PT
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^ I'm surprised that someone can survive even a week in LA smog. Toxic smog is there - it might not be as bad as decades ago - but it's there and quite heavy. You can smell it approaching LA county, can see it and can feel the lungs struggling with it.
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Bob Harrington
climber
Bishop, California
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Apr 24, 2019 - 10:53am PT
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10b4me says: I've lived here all of my sixty five years, and have seen the traffic go from bad to horrible.
Geez, even in Lida Junction? I'da thought it would have improved since the Cottontail closed...
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Apr 24, 2019 - 11:05am PT
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I grew up in LA in the '60s and '70s.There's no smog these days...
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August West
Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
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Apr 24, 2019 - 11:06am PT
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The DMV could do that if it insisted on competence as a condition of obtaining a driver’s license.
3/4 of SoCal drivers wouldn’t get a license in Europe.
Once traffic gets bumper-to-bumper, there isn't much to be done. But for heavy traffic that is still moving fairly quickly, a better driving culture would increase both the speed and the capacity of traffic. It is pretty annoying when drivers who want to drive a little slower (which is fine) don't stay over in the right lane (which is not fine), presumably because they don't like being in the truck lane and/or the lane that entering traffic has to merge into.
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