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formerclimber
Boulder climber
CA
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Apr 26, 2019 - 08:38am PT
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Olympia is like mini LA now...
Why would people want to live in SoCal (crowds, smog, rude people, expensive, hot weather, gangs) or coastal metro WA (crowds, endless rains, rude people, expensive) remains a great mystery of life. May be future historians will solve it some day.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Apr 26, 2019 - 08:58am PT
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Olympia is like mini LA now...
HaHaHa! Yeah, it takes like 15 minutes to get from our friend’s near Capitol HS to our other friend’s up by S Bay and Sleater-Kinney! And sometimes we see like 8 cars on S Bay Rd!
HEINOUS! Major cred loss, former!
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Apr 26, 2019 - 09:34am PT
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scientists have shown that as soon as you get more than 250,000 people in the same area that anti social behavior begins and you get a horrific freak kingdom like LA, with gang bangers, robbers, thieves, drug addicts, rapists, hip hops, munk ass punks, trick ass punks, winos; con artists, hobos, skid row bums, girls who can't keep and address and men who don't care,
Uh, huh. No meth labs in those wonderful rural towns. Nobody using the SS disability checks to buy their Oxycontin that's for sure.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Apr 26, 2019 - 07:26pm PT
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While it is true that air pollution is the worst in LA, in the country, it is ALSO true that the level is much smaller everywhere in the US:
"While emissions standards have greatly improved conditions in the City of Angels as well, Los Angeles still has the highest ozone concentrations of any major American metropolis. This is a result of its mountainous terrain, which trap air pollution in the Los Angeles basin. This topography contributes to the creation of smog, but at levels significantly lower than in decades past."
http://www.vitalsigns.mtc.ca.gov/ozone-concentrations
"Ozone levels are more than one-third lower today than at their high point in the 1970s"
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Apr 26, 2019 - 07:29pm PT
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I'll also note from the referred article, that the 2, 3, and 4th smoggiest areas in the US are:
2. Visalia
3. Bakersfield
4. Fresno
I guess their traffic is also unendurable?
Fresno is also noted to be the sootiest air in the country.
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jeff constine
Trad climber
Ao Namao
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Apr 26, 2019 - 09:32pm PT
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What Werner B down in LA....
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Apr 26, 2019 - 10:16pm PT
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What about
Berdoo, Oakland, Fresno, Bakersfield, Stockton
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Apr 26, 2019 - 10:22pm PT
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Chuck, murder is above those Olympia simpletons’ pay grade. Now, was they to run out of espresso they should turn surly if not wery ugly as quick as you can say “Bob’s yer uncle!”
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Yury
Mountain climber
T.O.
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Apr 27, 2019 - 05:29am PT
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ground chuck:
it takes about 5 years in a small town to realize what a fool you have been living in a big city, scientists have shown that as soon as you get more than 250,000 people in the same area that anti social behavior begins and you get a horrific freak kingdom like LA, with gang bangers, robbers, thieves, drug addicts, rapists, hip hops, munk ass punks, trick ass punks, winos; con artists, hobos, skid row bums ... In Canada the highest crime rates are in rural Manitoba and Saskatchewan.
The lowest crime rates are in largest Canadian cities like Toronto.
Can I assume that a similar situation exists in the US?
Are from statistical point of view largest cities like LA and NY the safest places in the US?
Again, first we need to exclude known ghettos like Chicago and Detroit.
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Yury
Mountain climber
T.O.
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Apr 27, 2019 - 06:08am PT
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Ken M:
I can (not) understand why you would want to have MORE congestion, MORE pollution, and travel slower.
Here are the facts:
https://la.streetsblog.org/2012/10/02/metro-expresslanes-and-carpooling-the-facts-the-benefits-and-more/ Ken M, I apologise but these are not facts. This is just old fashioned propaganda.
Why would you provide a link to a 6 years old article describing expected benefits?
Don't they already have real facts showing how this tollway improved overall flow of traffic?
I am also confused by stupidity such as "My ticket [for not having a transponder] was $238.00 + $2.00 toll charge and 50.00 penalty fee.".
Do such fines still exist now?
I am asking this question because up here anybody can drive on HW407 without a transponder for a mere $4.00 additional "camera charge" per trip + regular toll. In this case your license plate will be manually read and your bill will be sent to your mailing address.
For a visitor (e.g. a person who drove from LA and do not plan coming here one more time) it's essentially a free drive, because HW407 has no way to enforce payment of such once in a lifetime bills.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 27, 2019 - 06:17am PT
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Having morning coffee in my trailer at Indian Creek. Great view of the Henry Mountsins off to the west and several mule deer just went by....haven’t heard a car yet, I’ll deal with that somehow.
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yanqui
climber
Balcarce, Argentina
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Apr 27, 2019 - 08:17am PT
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You sure get around donini. Glad to see you're not wasting your youth.
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