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nutstory
Trad climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
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Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 15, 2019 - 11:03am PT
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Apr 15, 2019 - 11:05am PT
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Dood, this is political, yer gonna get banned.
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nutstory
Trad climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 15, 2019 - 11:11am PT
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The spire of Notre-Dame de Paris does not exist anymore. It has just fallen down...
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Apr 15, 2019 - 11:26am PT
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This is horrible. It doesn't matter if one is religious, or supports Catholic Church, this is a great loss.
Of course from my perspective the almost certain destruction of the Great Organ is deeply saddening. Built in about 1860, it is (or was) one of the finest examples of the large symphonic organs of it's time. To hear Olivier Latry play a recital on it was on my bucket list.
This is worth a listen. His tempo is slow, and melancholy, appropriate today. The sound quality leaves a lot to be desired, but screw that.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Apr 15, 2019 - 11:31am PT
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I didn’t even think of the organ. I have heard it and it was incredible.
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Apr 15, 2019 - 11:33am PT
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Unreal....
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Apr 15, 2019 - 11:33am PT
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6921425/ISIS-plans-copy-Paris-Bataclan-massacre-swathe-fresh-attacks-Europe.html
Shocking documents detailing a wave of ISIS attacks across Europe have been discovered on a hard drive dropped by members of the terror group as they fled their last stronghold in Syria earlier this year.
The chilling plans are believed to be inspired by the terrorist attack in Paris four years ago, when ISIS killers stormed the Bataclan concert hall and other areas of the city and killed 130 people.
Two years later, they committed another atrocity in Manhattan where jihadis crashed into cyclists and runners in the city, killing eight.
ISIS are now planning to repeat this horrific attacks in a new wave of atrocities across Europe, including an attack on a high-speed train network in Germany and on an oil pipeline in Switzerland.
Is the Notre Dame fire part of this plan?
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nutstory
Trad climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 15, 2019 - 11:35am PT
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850 years old!
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Apr 15, 2019 - 11:39am PT
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Yowza!
YES IT IS A (GASP), A MOMENT OF NEXUS; A MOMENT WHEN RELIGIOUS & CULTURAL LOSS ARE AT THE SAME TIME EQUAL IN THE TRAGEDY OF THE EVENT
Ksolem, said it so well
This is horrible. It doesn't matter if one is religious, or supports Catholic Church, this is a great loss.
Of course from my perspective,
the almost certain destruction of the Great Organ is deeply saddening.
Built in about 1860, it is (or was) one of the finest examples of the large symphonic organs of it's time.
To hear Olivier Latry play a recital on it was on my bucket list.
This is worth a listen.
His tempo is slow, and melancholy,
appropriate today.
& Ksolem,
Thank You,
I have that playing on the desktop.
with the live footage muted
Also, I have no idea Why I rubbed you the wrong way but please accept my apologies...
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Apr 15, 2019 - 11:43am PT
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Lemme get this straight. You undertake a massive reno project on one of the world’s cultural icons but you’re too short-sighted to install a massive temporary fire suppression system with guards 24/7? Now you’ve really got yerselves a reno proj!
FYI, a halon suppression system might cost $10-20 million.
Re-building that roof will be an easy $500 million. Easy.
Nah, prolly a billion.
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brotherbbock
climber
So-Cal
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Apr 15, 2019 - 11:44am PT
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Such a bummer...
Glad I got to see it.
I'm watching and hoping the two towers on the west facade don't burn down next.
This is a tragic loss...
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Apr 15, 2019 - 11:55am PT
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The stone will likely stand. The rest...
Also, I have no idea Why I rubbed you the wrong way but please accept my apologies...
I'm not sure what you're talking about. If I said something untoward I'm sorry about that... I dunno, maybe we both misunderstood something. Cheers.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Apr 15, 2019 - 12:09pm PT
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What a full-blown tragedy! One the most beautiful of the Gothic cathedrals irreparably damaged including the contents. I visited it as a child full of wonder at such a storied place. Damn...
Edit- I hope that you are right Wolfo.
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seano
Mountain climber
none
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Apr 15, 2019 - 12:36pm PT
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Ksolem,
I thought of the building, but not the organ. That "last play" of some amazing Bach is inspiring and tragic.
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Wolfo
Mountain climber
Germany
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Apr 15, 2019 - 12:43pm PT
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Most of the big european cathedrals burned down several times in the past, that's why vaults became standart in the 11/12th century.
The roof comes down and the vaults protect the interior of the church.
We'll see, maybe it works for the Notre Dame, as many times before...
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brotherbbock
climber
So-Cal
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Apr 15, 2019 - 12:54pm PT
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Muslim terrorists did it.
Nope....
It was that damn hunchback.
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A Essex
climber
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Apr 15, 2019 - 01:02pm PT
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god's punishment for the Pedophiles????
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brotherbbock
climber
So-Cal
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Apr 15, 2019 - 02:24pm PT
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It appears the towers are safe....
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Apr 15, 2019 - 04:13pm PT
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The nave and the Great Organ of Notre Dame de Paris:
Image is from Wikipedia Commons, and free use is granted to copy, distribute, and transmit the work with proper attribution as follows:
Pierre-Yves Beaudouin / Wikimedia Commons / CC BY-SA 3.0
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Apr 15, 2019 - 04:34pm PT
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Just heard that Macron declared
"The worst has been avoided."
Is he on crack or smack?
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