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divad

Trad climber
wmass
Apr 22, 2019 - 02:37pm PT
Not since the Civil War has this country had a bigger divide. To ask climbers on a "Climbers Forum" to avoid any political interaction is a sterilization of thought. Climbing, for good or bad is political. Who sits around a campfire without poking the coals and fanning the flames?
Psilocyborg

climber
Apr 22, 2019 - 02:48pm PT
https://www.phantasytour.com/bands/phish/threads

Go there for an unmoderated free for all. If you play rough you might get doxxed
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Apr 22, 2019 - 04:39pm PT
^^^ Problem is, I don't give a crap about what a bunch of undifferentiated people think on a given subject. The world is full of goofballs that bring nothing to a discussion other than the desire to be heard. And that is neither noble nor valuable in itself.

What has set this site apart is that it consists largely of people that I connect with on a fundamental level that transcends this or that (even heated) disagreement.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Apr 22, 2019 - 04:43pm PT
This may be a first,but, I agree.

I even liked the chief.
Wallbanger

Gym climber
Newport beach
Apr 22, 2019 - 06:29pm PT
no politics on this climbing forum nobody cares to hear your political opinions
Wallbanger

Gym climber
Newport beach
Apr 22, 2019 - 06:36pm PT
keep your political opinions to yourself this is a climbing forum we dont care about your biased views on what you think is happening
johntp

Trad climber
Punter, Little Rock
Apr 22, 2019 - 06:54pm PT
The thing about political discussions is that no one is going to change anyone's perspective. An exercise in futility.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Apr 22, 2019 - 07:00pm PT
Wallbanger, given yer grammatical liberties it could be a challenge devining yer predilections.
zBrown

Ice climber
Apr 22, 2019 - 07:17pm PT
SuperTopo is not a Place for Political Discussions


JE (a paragon of rationality IMO) admitted changing his perspective due to "polite" political discussion on ST. Others too.


He did eventually stop participating due to the low signal to noise ratio though.


I certainly have changed my opinion of drug smugglers due to Licky's thread.




ruppell

climber
Apr 22, 2019 - 07:29pm PT
The thing about political discussions is that no one is going to change anyone's perspective. An exercise in futility.

For futile minds.

Does that resemble you?
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Apr 22, 2019 - 10:44pm PT

Some political questions:
 Access
 Bolting
 Guiding to Himalayan summits
 The use or non use of Sherpas
 The use of technology to get to the top
 The removal of moss/lichens
 Chipping and chopping
 The use of permanent ropes or ladders along a route
 Chalk and tick-marks on stone
 etc
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Apr 22, 2019 - 11:04pm PT
"The thing about political discussions is that no one is going to change anyone's perspective. An exercise in futility."


Who ever said that was the goal?

I just want to understand the world. Other people have things to teach me.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Apr 22, 2019 - 11:06pm PT
I even liked the chief.

I liked bantering with him, until he stalked me at work. That's one problem with using your real name.

I could disagree with JohnE and we could still be on amiable terms, not that way with The Chief.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Apr 23, 2019 - 04:29am PT
Gary, I did not know that, I will change my opinion.
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Apr 23, 2019 - 10:00am PT
Likewise: I was 'stalked' by someone with a similar notorious reputation here at ST- he posted personal information here from other web sources, and had threatened violence in earlier posts.

Sh#t like that is going to happen if somebody gets a bug up their arse to go after you- using your name here only makes it easier for them.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Apr 23, 2019 - 10:16am PT
Bring it.
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Apr 23, 2019 - 10:30am PT
...Likewise: I was 'stalked' by someone with a similar notorious reputation here at ST- he posted personal information here from other web sources...

I can't imagine the life empty enough to have the time or desire to do something like that.... Freaks...
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Apr 23, 2019 - 10:52am PT
Likewise: I was 'stalked' by someone with a similar notorious reputation here at ST- he posted personal information here from other web sources, and had threatened violence in earlier posts.

Sh#t like that is going to happen if somebody gets a bug up their arse to go after you- using your name here only makes it easier for them.

I had a somewhat similar experience, although no threat of violence.
But it is a little unsettling when someone starts posting (irrelevant) details about your life that wouldn't be known just from ST -- it's pretty clear they want you to know they're following you, and presumably not just because they think you're a fascinating person. Definitely made me rethink the wisdom of putting my real name out there.

That and dealing with ridiculous defamation and nonsense (from some idiot "Fat Dad" who said I was pretending to be a lawyer) sort of soured me from posting on ST, although obviously I still do from time to time!
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Apr 23, 2019 - 10:55am PT
"I'm guessing you were stalked by someone who was an anonymous avatar."

Not in my case. This person's name and location was pretty well known here at ST.

Edit: Of course it's not unique to ST. But it points out the fact that simply using one's real name doesn't reduce the slime factor at all.
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