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Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Feb 8, 2019 - 03:36pm PT
Apogee, do you carve your recordings into separate tracks? That is the time consuming work. I gave up trying to digitize my collection of 7000 titles. When I want it in digital form I just go to mp3va.com, 15 cents a song or a buck and change for the whole album.

MP3 compresses by using an algorithm that removes the information (frequencies) that the average ear can not hear with other frequencies. Most people can not tell the difference. If you use uncompressed files then it should pretty close to analog. Neil Young was pushing this system a few years ago.
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Feb 8, 2019 - 03:49pm PT
Yeah, labelling the individual songs was pretty labor intensive...when you record the album, it’s one long file..after a while I got better at recognizing where a song starts and ends, and how much ‘buffer’ to add. The harder songs were those that kinda run into each other, or live albums. Husker Du’s ‘Land Speed Record’ was especially challenging...super fast, not much gap from one song to another.

I had naively thought there would be some kind of Gracenote process I could apply to each album to label them for me...uh, no. It was all manual, one at a time...the perfect task for a single, anal retentive guy like me.

Edit: Sorry for the thread-drift, Aeriq!
Aeriq

Sport climber
100-year Visitor
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 8, 2019 - 03:58pm PT
No worries.

I can say a lot about this but then all these modern puffed up so-called scientists here will just get butthurt ..... :-)

A wiser man than myself kept his trap shut!

LOL!
Aeriq

Sport climber
100-year Visitor
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 9, 2019 - 08:52pm PT
Cold-ass locked-down Saturday SCIENCE! experiment night.

Fired the kiln up to 1400+ degrees


Mixed up a batch of Starlite... paying ummmm....not enough attention to proportions of course... then rolled it out.


Burrito'ed the egg




Balm test... taquito'ed a chapstick.



Delivery to kiln.


Sacrificial offering ^^^

So... we gave it 4 minutes at around 1400 degrees... and at 3:30 we had smoke...and FIRE! Oh shit! Opened it up to flames - that extinguished rapidly.


Fortunately... we have a good fan in Skip's studio. Cherry chapstick + burning carbon filled the room.


Warm not hot to the touch... not exactly as portrayed in the video... LOL... then again -

we are Starlite noobs.


Final egg-


Well, it's a hell of a difficult way to poach an egg.


Sequel- fate of the chapstick later ;)









Ricky D

Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Feb 9, 2019 - 09:28pm PT
If you are going though that much trouble with melting sh#t and all- may I suggest you consider hash oil? Much more profitable assuming you don't torch the abode.
Aeriq

Sport climber
100-year Visitor
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 9, 2019 - 09:39pm PT
You have no idea of our hash-oil ordeal.
justthemaid

climber
Jim Henson's Basement
Feb 9, 2019 - 09:44pm PT
The Hash oil ordeal... not so profitable for anyone involved BTW...

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/3028352/Neat-Freak-Potheads-Please-Advise-OT
zBrown

Ice climber
Feb 10, 2019 - 06:55pm PT
There is a Starlight Bowl in
Balboa Park

Undergoing renovation


What does it have to do with this?

I don't know

I do not get it

Jim Clipper

climber
Feb 10, 2019 - 07:02pm PT
F'ing awesome!!! If you head down towards the Monument, Locker may be able you teach you a little about cooking things. Seriously, looks like good fun.
Ricky D

Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Feb 10, 2019 - 08:09pm PT
If you put Starlight on the 395 - would the gumbies from LA be able to get back home tonight?
Aeriq

Sport climber
100-year Visitor
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 10, 2019 - 10:23pm PT
Thanks Jim and Tad!

Proud effort,
ya done or still in research mode? :)

Still in research mode. We think the egg poached out because the weight displaced the bottom still-moist starlite in the kiln, making contact with the firing dish.

Gonna let it dry and re-fire next time, and put it on a tripod or something...

I forgot to take a picture, but the lip balm container was fine - just the wax melted out.
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Feb 10, 2019 - 11:04pm PT
I wonder if the difference has anything to do with direction of the heat source? A propane torch directs heat from one direction, whereas a kiln's heat is from all directions.
Aeriq

Sport climber
100-year Visitor
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 10, 2019 - 11:13pm PT
For sure, ap!

That was why we wanted to try the kiln experiment, it's multi-directional and contained.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Feb 10, 2019 - 11:19pm PT
Carcinogenic?
Aeriq

Sport climber
100-year Visitor
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 10, 2019 - 11:24pm PT
No. I had a panic moment during the firing about that while I was outside having a puff.

The carbon burn-off seemed to have no lingering or bad effects. Neither did the puff (except for the panic moment)...
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Feb 11, 2019 - 01:20am PT
COOL STUFF `N STUFF
FRUMY

Trad climber
Bishop,CA
Feb 11, 2019 - 07:53am PT
If you want after LJ is done making his HD roof rack you may use my welding set to try and see if you get any different results. With a rosebud tip you should be able to get well over 2000f.
Aeriq

Sport climber
100-year Visitor
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 11, 2019 - 08:40am PT
Thanks, Mark - we would like to try the direct flame!
justthemaid

climber
Jim Henson's Basement
Feb 11, 2019 - 08:59am PT
The moat of flaming wax likely skewed the results. Starlight did completely shield the plastic chapstick container though.

Winemaker

Sport climber
Yakima, WA
Feb 11, 2019 - 08:38pm PT
I watched the BBC series about Maurice Ward and his 'starlite' and was struck by the similarity of the inventor refusing to revealing any details to others and a gentleman I once worked with. I was working at a marine engineering company in Seattle designing off shore oil drilling and mooring equipment; a co-worker was a gentleman who had emigrated here years ago from Poland and was a very good engineer and designer.

When I first joined the company he and I were working on redesigning fish processing equipment for canning salmon. He told me he had been working on a machine for producing woven rugs and had had a break though that would revolutionize the industry. When pressed for details he absolutely refused to speak about it. He later developed lung cancer and lived for about a year, but steadfastly wouldn't discuss his invention, although we were friends and he knew I had no intention of ripping him off. I didn't and don't understand his motivations, as I don't understand the motivations of Maurice Ward.
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