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monolith
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state of being
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Jan 13, 2019 - 08:48pm PT
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The study is not about whether D supplements can raise your blood levels. They do.
It's about whether they have an impact on mortality and other factors. The study says they don't.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Jan 13, 2019 - 08:58pm PT
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Moose...Got any selfy thong pics you can share...?
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John M
climber
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Jan 13, 2019 - 09:07pm PT
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some scientists are starting to believe that glyphosate ( round up ) is the cause of the rise in many diseases such as celiac disease. They are also starting to link it to deficiencies in things like Vitamin D.
This study doesn't explain the vitamin D deficiency expect to say that the body uses vitamin D to get rid of glyphosate. ( my understanding ) which would be a reason for the deficiency. I have read other studies which seem to say that glyphosate blocks the production of vitamin D.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3945755/
an interview of a Doctor who works at MIT who is studying this issue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmAsTrsUjBc
I understand that these are side notes to what Fritz is pointing out in the article, which is that for some yet unknown reason sunlight is more effective at reducing certain diseases than supplementation.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jan 14, 2019 - 01:59pm PT
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OK
My D3 runs about 50. I haven't had it checked lately. My skin cancer doctor believes that 60 is a better level.
Also, get your bio-available testosterone and SHBG checked while you are getting you D3 done.
Here's another one for all the men out there (whether you're one of the king's or just a commoner).
Mood Swings in Men
“Mood swings in men are primarily a symptom of andropause, a hormone imbalance in men that usually occurs between the ages of 40 and 60,” explains Richard Giannotto, MD, a metabolic wellness physician in McLean, Va. This “irritable male syndrome,” as it’s often referred to, is the result of low levels of testosterone (low T) and high levels of the stress hormone cortisol, Giannotto says. “Resulting behaviors include anger, sarcasm, frustration, sadness, depression, being withdrawn, hostile, and/or anxious, and dissatisfaction,” adds Giannotto. Low energy can also be a problem with low T, as well as low desire.
Low testosterone in men can also mimic symptoms of low T and menopause in women. “I have some patients with low T who describe hot flashes, night sweats, and changing sleep patterns, which then result in sleep deprivation and more irritability,” says Damon Raskin, MD, a physician practicing internal medicine in Pacific Palisades, Calif.
No matter what the specific symptoms, Dr. Raskin says low testosterone in men is under-diagnosed. In fact, an estimated 13 million American men suffer from low testosterone, and 90 percent go untreated. “I see it all the time -- men come in and tell me they’re depressed, and they haven’t considered that their depression may be a symptom of low testosterone,” he says. “And in some cases, doctors themselves don’t consider low testosterone, and they treat the depression itself. But some studies show that up to one third of men who walk into primary care offices may have low testosterone, especially men over 40.”
... if you think you have symptoms of low T, see your doctor. “A lot of men, just by being men, don’t go to the doctor for anything,” Raskin says. “But in order to know for sure he has low testosterone, a man must be screened at the doctor’s office.” Raskin adds that the best time of the day for testosterone screening is in the morning. “You don’t have to have a fasting blood test, but a morning blood test will be a better test. In addition, be screened for possible secondary causes of low T or depression, including a pituitary tumor or other hormonal imbalances.”
It even affects firemen. But you have to join to read the article.
Firefighter Fitness: Low T and Cortisol: The Silent Killer
06/25/2013
By John Hofman Firefighters are often under a lot of stress, both physically and mentally. Stressful environments can increase inflammation in the body naturally, but it can also affect a firefighter's hormonal response. The hormone testosterone is associated with body fat and muscle mass in men and has beneficial effects with regards to the cardiovascular system. Any type of deficiency will lead to increased body fat, less muscle, and increased chance of disease. One study performed in the United Kingdom showed that men with heart disease die sooner if their testosterone levels are low. Another study found that low testosterone in men could increase the risk of developing Type ...
Also,
A study by an international group of researchers from organizations including the American Cancer Society finds that higher levels of vitamin D in the blood is associated with a lower risk for getting colorectal cancer. Previous studies have suggested a link but were inconclusive. The new study was published online June 14, 2018 in the Journal of the National Cancer Institute.
https://academic.oup.com/jnci/advance-article/doi/10.1093/jnci/djy087/5035027
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Bargainhunter
climber
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Jan 14, 2019 - 02:26pm PT
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Loved the article, especially these two lines which sum up the entire sentiment:
"We are always being told to replace something natural with some artificial pill or product that is going to improve our health, and it almost always turns out to be a mistake because we didn’t know enough. Multivitamins can’t replace fruits and vegetables, and vitamin D supplements are clearly no substitute for natural sunlight."
Thanks for posting it!
PS: I work in healthcare.
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Jan 14, 2019 - 05:49pm PT
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Go get 'em Fritz. Even though he is right, he clearly is going about it in the wrong way.
Journalists don't get paid for the truth. They get paid for words that attract lots of attention.
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capseeboy
Social climber
portland, oregon
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Jan 14, 2019 - 06:52pm PT
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Has anyone studied their D levels in the summer?
BargainHunter---I showed my daughter an article regarding no need for vitamins and she still gives them to the girls.
There's too much money in the health industry.
The health care system isn't healthy, caring or a system--Walter Cronkite.
During the heyday of CBS News in the 1960s and 1970s, he was often cited as "the most trusted man in America" after being so named in an opinion poll. Wikipedia
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Jan 15, 2019 - 04:59am PT
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SPF clothing.
I hate lathering up with oily sh#t on my skin. I'll put it on my face and neck and that's it. The rest of me gets SPF clothing. The first time I tried it was with arm coolers. What a diff they make for cycling. I've had a bit cancerous crap removed from my face and am careful.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jan 15, 2019 - 12:00pm PT
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“irritable male syndrome,” as it’s often referred to, is the result of low levels of testosterone (low T)
Specifically low bio available testosterone and you don't want high SHBG (sex hormone binding globulin).
Can happen to the best of us and another 13 million more (estimate).
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capseeboy
Social climber
portland, oregon
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Jan 15, 2019 - 05:37pm PT
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No offense intended. I thought I might have low testy because I'm not angry.
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DanaB
climber
CO
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Jan 15, 2019 - 06:38pm PT
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There's too much money in the health industry.
The health care system isn't healthy, caring or a system
What would be the optimal amount?
Well, it is dealing with people who willingly, knowingly, and deliberately drink, eat, and smoke themselves into chronic illnesses and early death.
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D'Wolf
climber
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Jan 16, 2019 - 04:40am PT
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Monolith (up thread):
The study says that vit D3 supplementation doesn't work improve health. You point out that the study wasn't about whether you blood levels can be raised by supplementation or not but whether it helped improve health.
The issue I take with the study is that they didn't use enough vit D3 to obtain a result (ie a therapeutic dose).
This is a typical government study. They did the same thing a few years back with vit D3 using 400 IU's then claimed (again) that it had no affect on health.
Take 5 mg of Tylenol for your headache and tell me how that works out for you...
2000 IU's is not enough. My GF takes 5000 IU's each day; I take 7000 IU's each day. This keeps our levels up where they should be.
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