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jromma

Sport climber
CA
Topic Author's Original Post - Jan 12, 2019 - 09:14am PT
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/11/us/joshua-trees-cut-down.html

who would do this :(
LowNRight

Trad climber
CA
Jan 12, 2019 - 09:22am PT
10% of the population.
originalpmac

Mountain climber
Timbers of Fennario
Jan 12, 2019 - 09:59am PT
Bunch of savages. More than likely, Trump supporters who b!tch about 'entitled liberals'
Jody

climber
Occupied Territory
Jan 12, 2019 - 10:35am PT
More than likely, Trump supporters who b!tch about 'entitled liberals'

Wrong. I know that it was liberals trying to pin it on conservatives trying to make them look bad.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 12, 2019 - 10:37am PT
Millenials think they are just as free to do any stoopid thing that comes into their vacuous
noggins as any Billy Bob or Festus.
rincon

climber
Coarsegold
Jan 12, 2019 - 10:39am PT
Those trees look like they fell over naturally to me.
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
Jan 12, 2019 - 10:40am PT
Itís ISIS getting into our Country through ports of entry.
JLP

Social climber
The internet
Jan 12, 2019 - 10:43am PT
10% of the population.
10% do it with intent, another 80% accomplish the same thing with good intentions, the remaining 10% are losing the battle to protect what's left of the pretty places.
krahmes

Social climber
Stumptown
Jan 12, 2019 - 11:01am PT
who would do this :(
Maybe someone with agenda using false flag tactics?
Just saying I've seen numerous examples of forest fire fighters ending up being the ones who start the fire.
I've spent a lot of time in the last 2 years rolling around the IV mostly in the areas where guns and off road vehicles rule and I don't see this.
A New York Times "reporter" shows up and this is found.
If it was just some yahoo guy; "F" that dude. If it is someone promoting an agenda showing the need for the NPS in Park, that person will rot in hell.
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Jan 12, 2019 - 11:07am PT
The simple fact is that urbanization has reached JT, with all the shitheads that come with it. Several years ago a friend and I went up rattlesnake canyon; graffiti was everywhere. F*#king morons.

No need to turn this thread political. The perps are mostly low life kidz that have no respect for anything.
KP Ariza

climber
SCC
Jan 12, 2019 - 11:10am PT
.Those trees look like they fell over naturally to me.

I thought the same thing. I canít figure out how a tree of that size could be snapped in half like a match stick.
krahmes

Social climber
Stumptown
Jan 12, 2019 - 11:17am PT
I walked up Rattlesnake Canyon in March 2018 trying to get to Willow Hole and I didn't see graffiti everywhere. Not saying it is not there (I've seen the photos), but someone saying this is proof it was loco locals who knocked over the Joshua Trees is a bit of stretch. You don't know who or knocked over these trees, I would bet it someone with an agenda.
Chaz

Trad climber
Jan 12, 2019 - 11:18am PT
We know it never would have happened if the Visitor Center had been open.
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Jan 12, 2019 - 11:56am PT
I walked up Rattlesnake Canyon in March 2018

We were there in maybe April 2016. There was graffiti on many boulders up to a half mile into the canyon, which lead the NP to close the trail.

Curious if the NP cleaned it up.
Spider Savage

Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
Jan 12, 2019 - 12:08pm PT
Bunch of savages.

HEY!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 12, 2019 - 01:09pm PT
^^^ Re-education camps. They work well in China.
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Jan 12, 2019 - 01:16pm PT
Credit: apogee

"Everything's fine....nothing happening here....it's all a bunch of fake news...."
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
Jan 12, 2019 - 02:43pm PT
I realize my eyesight isn't 20/20, but it doesn't look like a chainsaw was responsible and I don't see tire tracks as if a vehicle pushed the tree over. The author of the article says trees were knocked over so vandals could get their vehicles through the area, but besides that one tree anyone could go around the area looks pretty open. Is this just more "yellow journalism/hype"?
Batrock

Trad climber
Burbank
Jan 12, 2019 - 02:45pm PT
How did that help them get their car around it?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 12, 2019 - 02:51pm PT
Bat, youíre not really trying to analyze this logically, are you?
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