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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Dec 11, 2018 - 06:46pm PT
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Trump hasn't done anything to warrant impeachment which means he'll likely win the Nobel peace prize....
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Dec 11, 2018 - 07:46pm PT
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Being a John is a crime,especially when you cover it up during an election to be POTUS.
What is the matter Sketch?Too cold?
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7SacredPools
Trad climber
Ontario, Canada
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Dec 11, 2018 - 08:01pm PT
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Mary Elizabeth Williams' piece on Piers Morgan and his grovelling for the CoS position is hilarious.
"It takes a truly brave artist to allow himself to be regularly laughed at as a caricature of English pomposity and bombast; to play, for decades, the role of Basil Fawlty without the charm. Yet Morgan not only does it flawlessly, he evolves in it. In his current incarnation, he's the aging man on the melting iceberg of tabloid journalism, eternally thirsty, begging for validation while courting contempt. And while his latest stunt is unlikely to land him a post in the current administration, it should absolutely seal his qualifications for a retrospective at the Tate Modern."
https://www.salon.com/2018/12/11/piers-morgan-is-our-greatest-living-artist/?fbclid=IwAR0vNs8k7nMZ4TEQHUzjV8FzYLjl3VjwECQ5piCDKzb36JG_zvLVanwKuQg
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couchmaster
climber
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Dec 11, 2018 - 08:11pm PT
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Moose said: "Still no strong candidates to challenge him.
Moose"
Well, about every 15 min the political news changes. He's the last 15 min change: It's beto. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/beto-o-rourke-narrowly-tops-moveon-2020-presidential-straw-poll-n946501
Invariably these kinds of stories get started and run in the news by someone with an agenda, in this case, given Beto's drunk driving running from the cops thing (who of us have not done that?) it might even be Trump cause that F* the cops spew won't play well with anyone who doesn't live in California and believes that the law is whatever they think it might be at that very moment. Jus sayin' -midwest ain't playin'.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Dec 11, 2018 - 08:22pm PT
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"So far, all the disgusting doings by Trump don't qualify as the impeachment offenses."
I agree, Moose...though it's conceivable Mueller might bring something forward that qualifies, I'm not holding my breath. More likely, there will be more dirt that gets painfully close to Trump that will have some kind of impact on his re-electability.
Dirt speculated that Trump will bow out of his candidacy due to the lack of campaign funding that will come his way due to the vast accumulation of dirt on him during his 2016 campaign and ever since. I think this is a very plausible scenario...one that could become clearer as Mueller's final reports come forward. We'll see.
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Dec 11, 2018 - 09:23pm PT
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[Click to View YouTube Video]
I didn't really know much about Nancy Pelosi before watching this, and I have more respect for her now:
 In our society, we accept when men use irrational methods to seize power in a heated debate/argument, such as by increasing the volume of their voice, raising their pitch, and using body language to express anger/dominance/indignation/dismissiveness.
When women use these same tools, they are harshly judged as being over-wrought, emotional, irrational, harpy/screetchy biotches not worth listening to.
Nancy did an amazing job of regulating her behavior, tone, and word choice to not play Trump's game, where she would be certain to lose because of our societal prejudices for male and female behavior. It's like being in a boxing match with your hands tied behind your back.
Even with the unfair constraints working against her, she still came out of the discussion seeming more rational, reasonable, and claiming her power without relying on the caveman tools that Trump does. That earns my respect.
Unfortunately a large part of America probably thinks that Trump came out strong in that discussion. Our collective failure to teach effective communication and problem resolution strategies to the members of our society creates the space for people to vote for this type of governance. Generations raised to laugh at Jerry Springer and Ricki Lake shows and soak up gossip headlines about emotionally crippled and dysfunctional music/TV/movie stars has destroyed our boundaries for maintaining civil discourse to resolve serious problems.
I feel the urge to crack open the abscess and let out a full on wide-ranging rant, but I'll lock it down right about here.
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10b4me
Social climber
Lida Junction
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Dec 11, 2018 - 09:30pm PT
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Unfortunately a large part of America probably thinks that Trump came out strong in that discussion. I heard a conservative guy say just that. He said that dems can't go mano a mano with trump.
well, get someone who will.
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Dec 11, 2018 - 10:26pm PT
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Dec 11, 2018 - 11:16pm PT
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Dear 'God'...
Please let that happen.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Dec 11, 2018 - 11:50pm PT
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I'm not sure the dog-catcher would take that job at this point...
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Dec 12, 2018 - 03:36am PT
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
Dec 11, 2018 - 06:00pm PT
Edward, as I have said many times, it is not my job to educate you.
You are an adult now, use the new thing called an internet search engine to verify for yourself what defines campaign illegalities,
Don't trust your "gut instincts" as Donald says he does, instead use and value self education
No racist claims? You must be slipping.
It's not a matter of researching the topic. It's about you being full of sh#t. Your backpedal speaks for itself.
Have a nice day. ;-)
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WBraun
climber
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Dec 12, 2018 - 06:27am PT
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Search for the idiot on Google and I found YOU
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Dec 12, 2018 - 07:20am PT
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I feel the urge to crack open the abscess and let out a full on wide-ranging rant, but I'll lock it down right about here.
NutAgain, if you'd like to deepen your angst and depression further, I would recommend the book, The Fifth Risk, by Michael Lewis.
I just finished it. While a part of me hopes not to, I am considering a re-reading again just to sink further in some of its stunning insights and details. Last Sunday Lewis and the book were profiled on Fareed Zakaria GPS; there he gives a good summary of what's going on and what he learned.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2018/12/10/exp-gps-1209-lewis-fifth-risk.cnn
God help us.
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dirtbag
climber
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Dec 12, 2018 - 07:21am PT
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Regarding the chief of staff mess...While it’s amusing on one hand to watch the rats in the White House scramble, the reality is that increasingly, it is being staffed by kooks, crooks, and malcontents. We really do need the best people, and in a normal White House, attracting such people would be fairly easy.
But, this is not a normal White House. Let’s hope the sh#t doesn’t hit the fan the next two years.
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dirtbag
climber
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Dec 12, 2018 - 07:24am PT
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I didn't really know much about Nancy Pelosi before watching this, and I have more respect for her now:
Just based on her huge but understated role in passage of the ACA, she will be ranked among the most effective speakers. “Obamacare” should be called “pelosicare.” I’m a huge fan.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Dec 12, 2018 - 07:45am PT
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A very conservative friend , who worked in the Reagan thru the Obama administrations laughs when Trump is discussed...He says Trump can't hire anyone because he doesn't know anyone , the disadvantages of being a hotel magnate...Trump's claim that he's an outsider are true...My friend continues by describing Trump as a nutjob... Furthermore , he describes Mattis as woefully inadequate ....Don't throw the babies out with the swamp water...
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Dec 12, 2018 - 08:28am PT
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he describes Mattis as woefully inadequate
I would like to know why and how. Does he not offer the president his opinion?
Are his opinions inadequate? I’ve never known any Marine officers, and I guarantee I’ve
known more than most anybody in this august body, lacking in either opinions or the
willingness to express them. And IMHO Marine officers are often very well read which
is an attribute universally applied to Gen Mattis.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Dec 12, 2018 - 08:33am PT
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I would recommend the book, The Fifth Risk, by Michael Lewis.
It's on my Christmas list.
I've read Liars Poker, The Big Short & Flash Boys. All, fun, informative reads.
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