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Gnome Ofthe Diabase

Out Of Bed
Dec 9, 2018 - 05:44am PT
I didn't get much past Tars post, just that you don't . . . .
Don't say don't!
Just internalize the recommendation always reply to requests positively.

Childerns' toy chalk bags !
Fiona Williams?(GRRRR,if it is the same, long story)
I never go -don't pull plastic- but in the gyms those sorta things rox.

Now I'll give you an X-mas idea, no zip pocket. No patch the size of a can of chew. We all know what that will do - it will make one drop the stash when you least need it to.

A whole side panel that is velcro'd, up -down both sides & across the 'top', gusseted along the sides & hinged at the bottom, causing one to have a 2 full size (one slim) pockets, is what I would love to see you do. it would sell - bucket loads - me thinks.

Happy Safe Trails to you, Too!

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2018 - 06:25am PT
It isn't that I don't want to succeed in life.... Actually, I do succeed. In life. There is more to life than money and a constant backlog of work.

I have sold less than 20 chalkbags in 2018. Last year I worked much harder and sold 43.

I have donated 6 chalkbags to non-profits in the last 2 years.

My chalkbags are what they are.

Most people just throw a 1.5 inch webbing around the top - no stiffener. No elastic draw that cinches down well. No finished ends of the drawstring. One piece of fabric for the body, with a T-bottom gusset, the web collar and 2 loops.

The plushy people buy up the toys at thrifts, at like 25 cents a pop. They open a seem and drop in a lining pouch. There is no labor involved in the body of the bag. And - yes they are cute. But there are are also a dozen people making them. I remember when the first person did it. And then came the copycats. I'm not a copy artists - I did that for the commercial handbag business. I know what that's about. And I know what it feels like to have an idea that you came up with used by others and dilute your potential.

I have no interest in working to develop the ClimbAddict line to sell en masse. It's not going to be profitable for me, no matter what. I do it because I like to pick out the fabrics and sell a few chalkbags. Seriously - it takes 2 hours to make one as they are. To add more labor? For people to stash their things? And how much more than $35 is the average climber pothead willing to pay for said chalkbag?

I get that people want a little zip pocket.... I just don't want to add them. That's what cargo pockest are for(IMO).

People who have my chalkbags stand by them pretty consistently. I know I am supposed to smile and say thank you when people make suggestions as to what I could do to make a better living(not just in the chalkbags but in my other ventures too). It happens nearly DAILY. It happens the majority of times someone talks to me about what I do.

It's tiring.

Edit: I am sorry for the rant. It's just that...really, it is tiring, but worse, it opens up a chink in my armour that let's the "you're worthless" thoughts creep in. And when that happens - nothing gets done. When I smile and say thanks, knowing I will ignore - not because they aren't good ideas, but because they aren't my path, it's disingenuous. For what do I say to the person when 3,6, 12 months later they ask what came of their suggestion?


Gnome Ofthe Diabase

Out Of Bed
Dec 9, 2018 - 06:33am PT
Darlin' you do you!

And You Do It Marvelously

just wanted to chime in & show off me smarts
that is just me doin' me
Lotz can't stand it
sokay by mee-tooo

Peace & happy trails

A Gnome, off belay.

Social climber
portland, oregon
Dec 9, 2018 - 09:18am PT
I know I am supposed to smile and say thank you when people make suggestions as to what I could do to make a better living(not just in the chalkbags but in my other ventures too).

disingenous: not noble

The seller/crafter/artist is open to abuse by the most unnoble pubic. When it's obvious that you have been on this planet for more than a few years, the suggestions seem to be a little more than helpful, they seem to be offensive, as in a one-upsmanship way.

Some come backs to people's suggestions, that you will never use because you are noble, could be as follows:

-That's a good idea, why don't you do that? (teenager
-I would use that idea, but the help just won't listen! (upset boss
-My price point is already too high for my demographic market.(outsourced
-Sorry, my art and metrics are in cognitive dissonance. (throw me a bone
-Yeah Butt... (offense/defense
-I'm doing this for fun? (sound like Eeyore
-I'm doing this for fun! (eases peoples conscience

What are some of your favorite lines?

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2018 - 10:44am PT
Gnome, I'm sorry. I had just gotten up and was had just enough coffee in me to be cranky. You've always been so kind, I should have had enough brains to just think and delete instead of hit the Post button.

Re: The border clips - I agree the first guy is an azz. The second not really an azz, but I can't help thinking the border guy hears this day in and day out, from white people with very little to fear as a repercussion for being difficult. That's why, after I reflexively answered yes to the question, left it at that. Nothing was going to be changed by me getting into it with the guy, who's just doing his job and was pleasant with me. And yeah, a part of me knew that I would likely have spent a LOT more time at that station if I'd rebelled than I was interested in committing to.Maybe the nice guy isn't even the one who tools when the time comes. Maybe it goes like "you wanted to play with the nice guy? Well, he's done his job, and now you get the NOT nice guy who revels in putting people through the ringer."

The third one is very funny, agreed. Especially the driver getting the last word.

But it still seems wrong, the question "Are you a US citizen?" Wouldn't "Are you in the United States lawfully?" be more appropriate, since a good number of people who are not citizens are within the country legally?

Russ Walling

Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
Dec 9, 2018 - 01:42pm PT
White guilt is soooo hot these days....

As a manufacturer I get people telling me how to improve stuff all the time... sometimes they are right, mostly they are wrong, but I will always listen just in case. A while ago when we were really pumping out the goods I would get all kinds of nutcases raving at me about what I should be doing or making... I used to say that if I gave each one 50 bucks and told them to never contact me again I would be waaaaay ahead in the end. This still holds true.

These days a simple nope, or not interested usually gets us back to the beer quicker. They are grownups for the most part and by now understand a simple “no”. Try it sometime for quick and simple relief.
Russ Walling

Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
Dec 9, 2018 - 02:50pm PT

LMAO!!!!! see!
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Dec 9, 2018 - 02:51pm PT
And WTF is wrong with answering a simple question?

and WTF is wrong with the Federal government abiding by the Fourth Amendment within 100 miles of the border. The right wingers like to hold the Second Amendment up as sacred. Shame they do not apply the same standard to the Fourth.

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 10, 2018 - 06:02am PT
White guilt is soooo hot these days....

I didn't mention anything about feeling guilty. I mentioned finding the behavior of putting people who are legally in this country on a defensive posture as a starting point to be despicable.

Not the same thing.

I don't feel guilty about White Privilege; I feel sad that we as a society still can't see people as people, and that there are those who are just fine with that.

As for listening to ideas from people, I do listen. Zippers, for example. First chalkbag I made, I showed to Dick Cilley, who mentioned wanting the brush band and a zipper.

Now brush band...I probably should have been adding all along. But the zipper was a conundrum, as at the time I was sewing start to finish by hand. Wasn't going to happen until I git back to NY and got my sewing machine out of storage.

Then, I came across the supplier where I get most of my fabrics. High end upholstery fabrics, sales office swatches, which at the time were 50 cents a piece, and could make body fabric for 3 chalkbags.

I asked around - This is an example of the chalkbag "look." Zipper, or not, and how much more will you pay for the zipper.

Some people want zippers, but just as many don't care if it has one, and if they liked my type of chalkbag didn't care to pay for the zipper.

Cost of zipper isn't free. That left me with deciding to put zippers on all and charge accordingly, or choose some to put zippers on. Since there are almost always no more than 3 of a pattern, to zip or not zip particular pieces was decided pretty easily - no zipper option on a pattern.

With more thought, I realized that the zipper desire wasn't really why people chose my chalkbags. Sure, I COULD sell a few more if there was a zipper. But it was my opinion that the extra cost to consumer was not the way to go.

So, every time someone offers a suggestion - I DO think it through. Sometimes the thought process is really quick. Sometimes it's because I already spent the time on a similar idea.

Like yesterday.... in Thatcher, AZ. I am walking Lucas and notice a small business, Rainfire Beef Jerky. Then I notice they have a vending machine so people can just pull over and buy it when the place isn't open.

A brilliant idea.

And as I investigated, I started thinking on how this could be an idea I could take advantage of. Everything seems like a Snap your fingers and done thing, but then of course the logistics come into play.

But for the beef jerky place, that was a no brainer. Good thing I didn't see the owner, or I might have made some suggestions as to how they could do better with the idea.....hahahah

Edit: Today I am in Mesa, AZ, and doing last minute stuff before heading to Quartzsite where I expect to stay a few weeks. So far, Penny's been doing well - not a problem the whole time.

It has been COLD almost every day until I got into AZ day before yesterday. I think there were 2 nice days since I left NY - that's was rough.

And of course yesterday I went out to walk Lucas in the trails outside town and it was HOT! But soooo nice.

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Dec 10, 2018 - 09:36am PT
your webstore is the vending machine.

Social climber
Wilds of New Mexico
Dec 10, 2018 - 10:01am PT
Glad you stopped at La Posta- cool spot! Next time check out the Adobe Deli in Demming for a unique middle of no where steak house experience! http://adobedeli.com/index.php

I've spent a good chunk of my life in the southwest so I don't even notice the border patrol stops... I do know it's faster to answer their questions and move on! I've been fully searched crossing the border coming back in to the U.S. but otherwise I've never had more than a cursory glance. I of course recognize it's not the same for everyone.

right here, right now
Dec 10, 2018 - 10:28am PT
Nobody really needs a zippered pocket on their chalk bag. I doubt that would increase your sales one iota.
Your stuff is mighty fine just as is, Terrie. As I see it, the cachet of your product is all about fabric selection and you are slamming it out of the park on that note!

My comment about a zippered pouch for the Copenhagen or Skoal was purely a joke riffing off of that other manufacturer’s cowboy theme. (I'm sure you got that, HappieG.)
Definitely enjoying this cross country TR.

right here, right now
Dec 10, 2018 - 10:52am PT
So what did that unplanned bivouac kit consist of?
Three squares of TP, a Bic lighter, one hand roll of the rad dank, and half of a foil space blanket?

back east
Dec 10, 2018 - 02:49pm PT
So how about this.

A car parts store that will LOAN you the tools to do the work on your car. Apparently Auto Zone will loan you tools to do the one off job on your vehicle that you likely don't have and won't buy.

Need a gear puller. They've got it.

Need a tie rod separator. They've got it.

Need a .........

Wait for it.......

MULTIMETER! They've got it!

What a great idea.


So take comfort Terrie in knowing that should Penny start feeling a bit woesome in Quartzsite that salvation is about 40 miles away in Parker, AZ.


Happy Motoring!
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
Dec 10, 2018 - 05:26pm PT
HappieGrrrl, where are you spending Cmas and New Years?

Jim Henson's Basement
Dec 10, 2018 - 06:09pm PT
Westward ho Terri! Happy travels!

Yeah- this time of year I am fully embroiled in live art sales. I get a lot of " suggestions" with some regularity. How I respond varies depending a) on my mood and b) how the person delivers their idea - I'll give anything from polite consideration ( if it's something new and they are cool) to bitchy snark. ( if it's something dumb and banal or if they are a know-it-all jerk) ).

The thing people seem to have the most difficulty with is that I'm not interested in increasing my sales. ( which Teri might be able to relate to) . I only do one show a year. People are incredulous that I no longer have a website and do not have business cards. If they see something they like they'd better buy it and Im not interested in doing any of the additional "good" art shows suggested to me ad nauseum.

My polite response is usually:"Thanks but I no longer need to do this as a full time profession "

Social climber
Dec 15, 2018 - 09:14am PT
hey there say, ... terrie... have not seen you post...

just checking to see how you are... or, where, you are...

say, yes, wondering where you will be for the holidays... :)

good question, lynne, :)

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 15, 2018 - 10:11am PT
I'm in Quartzsite,neebee. Got here Tuesday and will be staying through much of January; that is,if I can take the preponderance of things like gun-toting men and stickers such as this:
As seen in Quartzsite, AZ
As seen in Quartzsite, AZ
Credit: Happiegrrrl2

The BLM camping is very convenient, though I wish the drone of trucks on hwy 10 wasn't so...there.

I joined the gem and mineral club and am learning to shape stones. Here's the second one I've done.
Credit: Happiegrrrl2

Today I bought a few slabs and will work on making cabs from those this coming week. There's also a metalsmithibg shop and I am going to learn the basics and begin doing that sort of work too.

For me in my life right now this is a very good situation and should further my artistic work.

But, I am one of not so many people in my age set here. The place has a LOT of octegenarians, and then a population of nomadic young people on drugs. A lot of alcoholics too. So there are pros and cons about the place. But I do want to stay and take advantage of the gem club offerings and the rock vendors who are beginning to arrive for the season.

Thanks for asking.

Sonogram Sunrise Jasper in Sterling Silver frame <br/>
Sonogram Sunrise Jasper in Sterling Silver frame

Credit: Happiegrrrl2

Edit: Here's a recent piece I made once I got here. Funnily, I bought this stone here last year and waited all this while to wrap it. Partly it was because I wanted to use sterling silver and needed to purchase the flat banding,but I did that a few months ago....


Social climber
Dec 15, 2018 - 12:32pm PT
hey there say, terrie... wow, and wow, again!!!

hugs and love...

ahhhh, now i see, too, why you have not place to forward your card...

it is 'tailor made' for you... :)

just happened to find it, but-- it will welcome you home, :)
sending love and prayers...



Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 12, 2019 - 02:27pm PT
Well..at least my problem isn't *this* bad...
Credit: Happiegrrrl2

I have had THREE flat tires in the last few days, and just had to buy FixaFlat for this last one, since there's no tire place open til Monday.

They say the ground is so hard here that if you hit a rock *right* it has to take the path of least resistance, into the tire....

I feel like crying.

The first one was on Wednesday, and discovered by someone as I was in the lot at the mineral club. He helped me fill it up and told me where the tire guy was.

They fixed it, and explained that it was a "rock break," and to drive slow on the gravel roads. I DO!

Then, this morning I noticed the same tire very low. Filled up enough to feel kind of okay driving 1.5 miles to the tire shop and hoping they were open.

Luckily they were and fixed the tire again. Said it was a different place, otherwise they couldn't have repaired the first fix.

Then I noticed a different tire looked low, and when I looked at it a while later...flat. And tire guys closed now.

WTF? I'm already driving at idle in the BLM land. Three times in a few days???

Oh. The picture was from a guy looking to buy a new wheel to replace....that. He had been towing the car behind his Rosdtrek and around Not the heard...a strange sound... He has no idea how long it had taken to do that much damage. But holy carp!

I am going to move to a closer to the road camping spot tomorrow. But these tires are new, and its just so upsetting.
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