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Floorabove

climber
The Gunks y'all
Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 8, 2018 - 04:41am PT
I’m sorry for you on the West coast that will wake up to this horrible news.

i-b-goB

Social climber
Nutty
Nov 8, 2018 - 07:00am PT
Prayers for all those involved. People want something done about guns. There should be armed security at bigger venues. It should be the law that if anyone uses a gun during a crime or assault the penalty would be an automatic life sentence! But unfortunately those that do these kinds of mass shootings don't care if they die! They just said the suspect was an ex-military Marine, Ian David Long with PTSD, he used a handgun. To bad he didn't get mental health care treatment so it didn't end like this. Condolences!
Spider Savage

Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
Nov 8, 2018 - 07:05am PT
Side effect of psychiatric drugs.


Side effect of a highly incompent mental health industry.
Aeriq

Social climber
Location: It's a MisterE
Nov 8, 2018 - 07:06am PT
Really glad my mother-in-law is not into country line dancing right now.

Condolences to all.



https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/08/us/thousands-oaks-california-bar-shooting/index.html
Levy

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Nov 8, 2018 - 07:12am PT
This is so sad and due to it's proximity to my home and the community I live in, it hits especially hard. My condolences to all the families and friends of the victims and especially to the friends and relatives of the brave Sherriff's Deputy who was the first responder and shot as he entered the bar.

I am a passionate 2nd ammendment supporter but but the time to act to prevent these acts of insanity is now. We especially need a more robust mental health care system.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Nov 8, 2018 - 07:27am PT
PLEASE, SIR, MAY I HAVE SOME STRONGER GUN LAWS?
PUH-LEESE?
PUH-LEESE?
Credit: mouse from merced

My condolences to the community and to the officers and patrons whose lives were ended.

You cannot trust today's John Q. Public with firearms. How many times does it need to be said?

Talkin' to a frickin' wall, here.

Take that "passion" and stick it, Levy.

donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Nov 8, 2018 - 07:38am PT
Prayers helps the prayers and that comfort is good. What this country really needs is some substantive action to protect people from future gun violence.
The gun culture that has developed in America is absolutely shocking and has no parallel in the industrialized world.
It is not just the avaiability of weapons it is the “culture” of guns that permeates our society. The weapons used in slaughtering our fellow humans (pistols and semi automatic rifles) are designed exclusively for killing humans...nobody hunts with them.
Sometimes I feel ashamed to be an American.
A Essex

climber
Nov 8, 2018 - 07:45am PT
Trump doesn't care...



...one little bit
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Nov 8, 2018 - 07:47am PT
Trump does care....

Big news stories like this take the focus away from him....tough stuff for a narcissist.
Fat Dad

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Nov 8, 2018 - 07:53am PT
A short while ago a former Supreme Court Justice (Brennan I think) opined that it might be appropriate to repeal the 2nd Amendment. I agree.
10b4me

Social climber
Lida Junction
Nov 8, 2018 - 07:53am PT
Trump doesn't care...



...one little bit

he will blame it on California democrats.
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Nov 8, 2018 - 08:01am PT
I doubt Trump has a strong personal opinion about gun control...if anything, my guess is that he personally believes they should have stronger controls.

How it plays politically, however, is an entirely different matter. He knows damn well that his base have been well-programmed to believe it is the central issue to being an American, and therefore Trump will serve those interests (and resultant votes) with whatever rhetoric they want to hear.


Politics of this issue are insane. My great condolences to all involved directly and indirectly in this most recent tragedy.
10b4me

Social climber
Lida Junction
Nov 8, 2018 - 08:05am PT


A gunman who killed 12 people at a Thousand Oaks bar was a former U.S. Marine who may have been suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder, the Ventura County sheriff said.

Ian David Long, 28, lived in Newbury Park, not far from the club where he threw smoke bombs and rained bullets on a crowd of more than a hundred people Wednesday night.

Sheriff Geoff Dean said his department had had several interactions with Long, including a call to his home in April for a complaint of disturbing the peace. Deputies at the time said Long was irate and acting irrationally, Dean said. They called in mental health professionals to evaluate him, and they concluded he did not need to be taken into custody.
Gene

climber
Nov 8, 2018 - 08:09am PT
A short while ago a former Supreme Court Justice (Brennan I think) opined that it might be appropriate to repeal the 2nd Amendment. I agree.

It was John Paul Stephens
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/27/opinion/john-paul-stevens-repeal-second-amendment.html
justthemaid

climber
Jim Henson's Basement
Nov 8, 2018 - 09:15am PT
This is completely insane for this particular community. I grew up near Thousand Oaks- violence, crime and gun-toting wack-jobs is far outside what anyone living there would expect. I guess there are no "safe" communities any longer.

Donini:
The gun culture that has developed in America is absolutely shocking and has no parallel in the industrialized world.

It is bizarre that America has gone down this dark path. I don't know what the solution is. The NRA holds too much sway, testosterone-ridden gun fanatics refuse to see reason or compromise and most Americans seem totally indifferent after the initial shock wears off. Any discussion about gun control actually just makes gun-nuts rush out and by 10 new guns they wouldn't have otherwise purchased. ( I know- I have a close friend who does this with some regularity any time a gun-control proposal is even mentioned) . There is not a good solution to dealing with the mentally ill people who own guns.

Meh.
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Nov 8, 2018 - 09:35am PT
..he will blame it on xxxxxxxxxxxxx ...

Blame falls on the killer. Maybe start there. Root causes and all...

Instead, politicians climb on top of the dead to make whatever squishy platform they can. Every single time. Gets old.
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Nov 8, 2018 - 09:35am PT
It is bizarre that America has gone down this dark path. I don't know what the solution is.

To paraphase John Bachar Sr., the US needs a Department of Peace, instead of a Department of Defense. I don't know the history of the gunman, but it certainly must be troubling to do what many members of the armed forces are trained for.

'The Department of Defense, as decades of history show, is a euphemism for Department of War. By contrast, a Department of Peace would be dedicated to the resolution of conflicts by exhaustive, peaceful, nonviolent, non-threatening means, rather than by the use or threats of force if “irresolvable” impasses in negotiations ultimately occur. In short, let’s agree to disagree and coexist without killing each other.' - John Bachar Sr.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Nov 8, 2018 - 09:44am PT
Police made contact with him in April and called in a mental health team to clam him down. That should have been enough to revoke his right to own firearms. Got to vote for Democrats to get any change
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Nov 8, 2018 - 09:51am PT
Yes, blame the perpetrator but keep in mind...there are deranged people in other countries but the outcomes are not the same.
The “gun culture” and the incredibly easy access to weapons designed to kill people makes America different...don’t you all feel proud.

Keep America exceptional!
Safeguard tge Second Amendment and the death penalty.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 8, 2018 - 09:53am PT
Got to vote for Democrats to get any change

Since 1958 the Dems have controlled both houses of the CA legislature except for a couple years. Why hasn’t that worked?
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