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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Oct 14, 2018 - 09:51pm PT
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I doubt I will buy another iPhone. My $1000 iPad is less than a year old and it is already
acting up. Screw that update crap - it’ll just slow it down more.
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BruceHildenbrand
Social climber
Mountain View/Boulder
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Oct 14, 2018 - 11:33pm PT
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Apple, Microsoft, etc. different dogs, same fleas.
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Adventurer
Mountain climber
Virginia
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Oct 15, 2018 - 03:03am PT
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I’m typing this on my six year old ipad and my iphone 5 is working fine as well. I don’t allow updates.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Oct 15, 2018 - 03:20am PT
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why are apple customers so stupidly loyal???? When I switched to digital photography everyone told me I needed Apple for photos. My first 2 computers cost well over 2k each and actually kind of sucked for photos because I photo would save multiple copies of each file and used too much space and basicly sucked.. Anyways after the 2nd g4 powerbook crapped out I switched topc for a fraction of the cost and much better platform for photos. PC File system is easier and photoshop is the same anyways.. My Samsung galaxy phone cost $100 bucks...
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Hoser
climber
Vancouver,Rome
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Oct 15, 2018 - 03:53am PT
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I love apple - havent used a PC in well over a decade.
This year I bought a chromebook for the wife, and two Xaomi Android phones from China for us - dual sim, dual app, top of the line sony camera...light years ahead of Apple and hundreds and hundreds cheaper. I am loving everything about our purchases!
I am now considering what to do about the laptop...could be a big change coming...
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climbski2
Mountain climber
The Ocean
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Oct 15, 2018 - 04:30am PT
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They already sabotaged it by making the battery non replaceable. Apple does all it can to be proprietary and force you to pay them extra for your device to simply function the way it should. Smart business model.
I have hated apple since anything after the original Macs
$1000 for a smart phone that is barely 10% performance better than an unlocked slightly older phone you can pick up used for $200 to $300...insanity. Talk about far past the top of the diminishing return curve.
I'm still on a Note4 and occasionally switch to a waterproof Kyocera. Both under $150 on e-bay
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Oct 15, 2018 - 04:31am PT
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Samsung Trac-fones...
I haven't spent more than ~$100/year for a phone.... ever. No contracts and they run normal modern Android apps.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Oct 15, 2018 - 05:45am PT
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Part of the price of living in the first world.
Reminds me of the old Beatles' warning that money can't buy you love or a really satisfactory camera phone.
We'll be checking out the upcoming Google Pixel 3.
I think Google loves me...66% sure of it, anyway. :0)
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climbski2
Mountain climber
The Ocean
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Oct 15, 2018 - 06:58am PT
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buy a camera if you want a camera. Buying a phone for photography is like buying a swiss army knife for carpentry. Better than nothing for simple jobs.
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10b4me
Social climber
Lida Junction
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Oct 15, 2018 - 07:52am PT
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As Steve Jobs once said, and Tim Cook says now
there's a sucker born every minute
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DanMerrick
Social climber
FKA Banquo from Mo' Hill, CA
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Oct 15, 2018 - 08:19am PT
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Apple, Microsoft, etc. different dogs, same fleas.
Except Apple has a better grasp on "you can get better but you can't pay more" cult marketing. Apple is contemptuous of their customers because they know their customers are dupes.
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BruceHildenbrand
Social climber
Mountain View/Boulder
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Oct 15, 2018 - 08:36am PT
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Dan,
agreed! I think a lot of the appeal of Apple products is that people think it makes them cool!
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Trump
climber
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Oct 15, 2018 - 08:42am PT
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If you’ve got plans for a better mousetrap, go for it! If our plans are for someone else to have better plans for a mousetrap, we might just find ourselves stuck in the same old one.
If you don’t feel good about your phone, you’re buying it for the wrong reasons. If you hate Apple, buy a different phone that you will help you feel good about hating Apple.
Ya can’t change them you can only change you. Who knows, with the right marketing you might become POTUS.
My iPhone 6 makes me so cool! Not quite as cool as everyone else in my family, but that’s on me.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Oct 15, 2018 - 08:48am PT
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Why Does Apple Have So Much Contempt for Their Consumers ?
Because that's how corporate America rolls.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Oct 15, 2018 - 08:51am PT
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Buying a phone for photography is like buying a swiss army knife for carpentry.
HaHaHa! But it’s really hard cramming my D810 in my pants pocket, nawmean?
Specially with the 600mm on it! 🤡
We should combine this bashfest with the Yoko one!
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Oct 15, 2018 - 10:31am PT
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I’ve used PCs and Macs, iPhones and Androids for years. If you think Apple’s pros are only about image (a common refrain) you don’t really understand the pros and cons of the different platforms.
The latest iOS actually improves performance on older devices. This was way overdue. It’s super lame that Apple won’t let you choose an older OS if you want.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Oct 15, 2018 - 01:39pm PT
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Toshiba laptop. $450.00 Samsung smart phone $100.00 and its a tracphone that costs me about $20.00 a month.. you are smokeing some serious first world crack if you need to spend 2k on a laptop and 1k on a phone...
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Moof
Big Wall climber
Orygun
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Oct 15, 2018 - 02:12pm PT
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Apple has a well curated line-up, and you pay for that (as well as a "fashion" tax). You might not like the choices they make (I often don't) but you rarely get non-functional junk.
Android is a seething snake pit with hidden gems, if you don't get bitten in the process. More often than not you get unsupported phones loaded with pre-installed bloatware/spyware/etc unless you move up to the near-Apple priced phones. A couple phones we got years back received zero security updates after buying them, but the non-removable bloatware updated itself to the point where no storage was left and the phones became unusable/worthless.
So my wife got the iphone she really wanted, and has been happy. I went the Motorola route for the last two phones and I am cautiously happy. I mostly use the thing to get texted grocery lists and find my way with maps. I ended up buying much more phone than I need just to get something that is from a reputable outfit (for now) that puts minimal crap on the phone (yet frustratingly not zero).
Android similarly messes up stuff with updates. Their Google Fit app was handy for keeping track of running, biking, hiking, etc. They turned it into a game with "Heart Points", rendering it mostly worthless to me. You really don't "own" the phone in your pocket anymore.
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Oct 15, 2018 - 02:38pm PT
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Because like just about every major tech company they are all about controlling and brow beating people and keeping them on a short leash. This is one of the dark sides of modern techno-arrogance which companies like Apple and Google foster in their in-house cultures.
And one very important thing they know which perhaps 99% of their "customer" base has no idea : the use of their products are profoundly injurious to human health.
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