The 10,000 Hour Rule and Climbing.

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Bad Climber

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The Lawless Border Regions
Oct 15, 2018 - 06:30am PT
Hilarious thread. Interesting, too. Yeah, "5.7 is my bitch," too. The "rule" has been thoroughly debunked. Talent plays a WAY bigger role than Gladwell or the researcher who first put it forward realized. I read a fascinating article that discusses an adolescent chess phenom who beat the world's best. There was simply NO WAY for him to even come close to the 10k hours. In The Sports Gene, Epstein tells the amazing story of the lazy high jumper who beat the world champion and Olympic gold medalist. The upstart probably had fewer than ten HOURS of training under his belt. We've all seen it, too, in our own lives--the punk upstarts who grab rock and inside of a month or two are making you look like a stooge. Frustrating and amazing all at once.

Aeriq killed it with this line re. Gladwell:

Have you seen him - does he even lift? ;^)


BAd
JLP

Social climber
The internet
Oct 15, 2018 - 10:06am PT
416 days.
Um - sleep?

If you're actually "on" or doing "deliberate practice", as Gladwell puts it, for an average of 4 hours per day, gym or outside, call it an average of 3 days per week, every week of the year - it's more like 15 years. Call it 10-20.

It just means the people you see who are really good at something likely logged a lot of hours over many years to get there. That's the point of the book.

The corollary presented in the book is that hard work trumps talent. The "outliers" weren't handed a gift, they worked for it. Very few hit their genetic limits, yet most claim they have. The human body is incredibly adaptable if you push it. Excuses, laziness or simply other priorities in life come into play far sooner.
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