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dirtbag
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Oct 14, 2018 - 07:04pm PT
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Is that a maga rally or a tea party protest?
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EdwardT
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Oct 14, 2018 - 07:11pm PT
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It's a Hillary / Boxer / Booker fundraiser.
"Give us your money and go harass Republicans.
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Fritz
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 14, 2018 - 07:22pm PT
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Mguzzy! Thanks for the Vox link. Here's a little more, but for the whole story of Trump evading, lying, & denying, his way through the interview go to the article link: https://www.vox.com/2018/10/14/17975644/trumps-60-minutes-interview-transcript
Donald Trump trusts Kim Jong Un but not American climate scientists. He knows more about NATO than Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis. He thinks the European Union was created to take advantage of America on trade. And he isn’t sure whether or not Vladimir Putin is involved in assassinations.
In short, his sit-down interview with 60 Minutes’ Lesley Stahl revealed the president of the United States to be grossly dishonest, woefully ill-informed, and congenitally incapable of admitting error or demonstrating any kind of moral or intellectual growth.
He is, in other words, totally unfit for high office and fairly obviously so. Even more amazingly, despite Stahl covering an incredibly wide range of issues, she broke essentially no new ground. Every terrible, disqualifying thing he said was something he’s said before.
Donald Trump says a lot of things that aren’t true
I’ve written up a lot of Trump interviews, and one untrue thing he almost invariably says is that the US trade deficit with China costs us $500 billion a year. This is neither how trade deficits work, nor the correct figure which should be more like $350 billion.
For Sunday night’s performance, Trump was seemingly prepped that his number is wrong, but instead of using the accurate one he simply modified his usually statement, telling Stahl “I told president XI, we cannot continue to have China take $500 billion a year out of the United States in the form of trade and other things.”
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Oct 14, 2018 - 07:42pm PT
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Yes, Jim, we all know how important it is for us to vote for change. I don’t think there’s much doubt as to whether the polititards here will vote in November, or which way they’ll go. The tougher question is how to get younger or disenfranchised people to the polls...that’s more than a third of the electorate, and we all know which way they’d likely roll if they actually showed up.
Anyway, it’s been a relatively quiet several days for the WH...makes you wonder what’s coming down the pike this week...
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John M
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Oct 14, 2018 - 07:46pm PT
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All of the Bernie voters stayed home in order to give a f*#k you letter to Hillary.
nonsense...
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Oct 14, 2018 - 07:52pm PT
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Behave politically if you want to change policy. The first thing to do is get active and vote for your candidate.
You on the right path Jim
The Bernie voters behavior seems to me to be
mainly an empirical issue
I have no idea if it's true or not
So where is the empiricism?
Whining about what an asswholeTrump is may be great fun, but it's still just (un)funny whining
It's almost as effective as complaining about what a horrible spelling corrector an Apple is
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dirtbag
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Oct 15, 2018 - 06:47am PT
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Ground chuck, I hear ya, unfortunately we are stuck with this babbling f*#k.
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EdwardT
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Retired
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Oct 15, 2018 - 06:51am PT
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LOL
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dirtbag
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Oct 15, 2018 - 06:52am PT
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Anyway, it’s been a relatively quiet several days for the WH...makes you wonder what’s coming down the pike this week...
One thing I’ve learned about this one is that every three or four weeks the sh#t hits the fan. We’re about due. It would be good timing, too, with the election in only three weeks.
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HermitMaster
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my abode
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Oct 15, 2018 - 07:58am PT
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10b4me
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Lida Junction
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Oct 15, 2018 - 08:10am PT
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Stop the madness. And I thought the Oval Office performance with Kanye was as low as it could go. Vote Blue on November 6. +1
We don't matter to him his position matters to him. He's not here for the American people, he's here for his own ego.
been saying this all along.
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Mighty Hiker
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Outside the Asylum
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Oct 15, 2018 - 10:30am PT
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Well, the NYT had a long article on Saturday, showing that Kushner had income of over $300 million in the last decade, but paid little income tax. Combine that with the article ten days ago that showed that almost all Trump’s money up to 2000 was given to him by his father, and often acquired and transferred by shady if not criminal means. Often to bail out Donnie’s failed businesses. And that a Democratic house seems likely to immediately subpoena the tax returns for Trump and all his companies and relations. And that’s not counting whatever Mueller, and prosecutors in New York, are finding.
Edit: Whether or not Trump's voters care about income tax investigations, Mueller's work, or the work of the New York state prosecutors, makes no difference. If/when he's charged, we'll see how it plays out. The Times strategy of focusing on his past and his associates is uncovering serious malfeasance.
That said, the goal of the Democrats for 2018 and (especially) 2020 is to make the case for how they'd do things different or better. Why waste time assailing Trump's (lack of) character, which is well known even to his supporters?
As for that revolting piece of "art"? Well, Roosevelt I would probably have punched Trump out. And I doubt that Lincoln, Bush I, Bush II or Eisenhower would have sat at the same table with him.
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apogee
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Oct 15, 2018 - 11:16am PT
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From what I'm reading, Trump-family taxes & Mueller's report aren't as high on the voters minds as you might think. There's so much chaos associated with this 'administration', it creates a numbing effect to almost anything new.
If this uber-chaos approach was intended, it seems like it's working- it so hard to keep track of it all, what you are left with is how is your life right now. A productive economy and low unemployment is probably much more front & present in the minds of swing voters.
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dirtbag
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Oct 15, 2018 - 11:19am PT
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I would love for our next president to be boring.
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perswig
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Oct 15, 2018 - 11:33am PT
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Apogee's post hits the 10 ring.
I don't know about the 'intended' part, but between those who don't really care how cavalier he has been with language, appearances, respect from world bodies and leaders OR respect for others, and those who don't see the financial issues or borderline nepotism that he has trended toward, the gains made in the last 2-3 quarters are likely to influence their mid-term decisions.
Even if those gains could potentially be attributable to delayed effects from the prior administration.
The Dems have done little to get their thumb out and offer a concise plank position for any of the above, nor to provide new blood that would inspire swing voters to come to their side or even get out to vote this November. Inertia, lack of motivation, and hysteria-fatigue may again allow change to slip through their hands now and quite possibly in 2020.
Dale
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dirtbag
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Oct 15, 2018 - 01:44pm PT
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My prediction, fwiw, is that November 7 will be a very bad day for roger stone. That is the day when Mueller’s pre election exile ends.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Oct 15, 2018 - 05:27pm PT
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That interview says a lot,I certainly will not worry ,but,that was the face of a desperate man.
His heart rate must be sky high,he does not drink or smoke.
This is what two many cheeseburgers and no cardiac looks like ,despite his demeanor.
It won’t be long now.
Lol.
Winning. Whining.
Is there a difference ,really.
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