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rockgeir

Trad climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 4, 2018 - 06:10pm PT
In celebration of a decade of sharing super-high-quality beta for Cochise Stronghold, I am proud and excited to announce the release Toofast Topos 2: Cochise Stronghold Rock Climbing!

Toofast Topos 2 is a massive expansion on our first book, and details 470 pitches of climbing on 25 formations in the Stronghold. The guide covers the east, west, and southwest regions of the Stronghold, including 113 multipitch routes, a selection of single-pitch crags, the original classics, familiar moderates, killer testpieces, and amazing, never-before-reported lines. Honoring the history, traditions, and inherent ethic of Cochise Stronghold rock climbing, 100% of the beta is firsthand and presented with the utmost detail and precision.

Check out or order the new 430-page book in digital format ($18) or paperback format ($38) at www.ToofastTopos.com. A discount is offered for those who want both versions.

Geir Hundal

Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Oct 4, 2018 - 06:20pm PT
Very nice topos

if anyone wants a sample here are some topos

http://www.toofasttopos.com/free/
rockgeir

Trad climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 4, 2018 - 06:28pm PT
Thanks Jon - I will be updating all of the free topos to the format used in the new book.

Here is one example from the book - it's downsampled to display here on the forum, but you get the idea. :)

F

climber
away from the ground
Oct 4, 2018 - 07:12pm PT
Headed there in a couple weeks. Never been. Ordered the Tanya Bok book a month ago and havenít received it and havenít gotten any answer back on the delivery ETA. Will probably dispute that CC charge and order yours, as long as it actually comes?
Looks like a rad zone, stoked to check it out.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Oct 4, 2018 - 07:31pm PT
F...I have enjoyed both Gierís topos and Tanyaís guide. I suggest you start with Sheepshead/Muttonhead on the west side...saw my first mountain lion there.
BrassNuts

Trad climber
Save your a_s, reach for the brass...
Oct 4, 2018 - 07:36pm PT
Cool! Thanks Geir!!!
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Oct 4, 2018 - 08:04pm PT
Cochise bump


rockgeir

Trad climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 4, 2018 - 10:13pm PT
F,

You can purchase Toofast Topos in PDF for an immediate download if you want. No need to wait for delivery.

Jim, glad you have enjoyed our work. :)

Geir
Tanya B

climber
Oct 5, 2018 - 09:26am PT
Hi F,

If you could send me your name I could look up your order. I have not heard from anyone missing a shipped book but would glad to solve this. Was just out there for 3 days and the weather was perfect so your trip has great timing. Thanks, Tanya
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Oct 5, 2018 - 09:41am PT
Hey Tanya, the ST messaging system doesn't work, so you need to post an email address for contact. Looking at your website, it looks like F can email you at cochiseclimbing (at) gmail.com.

Tanya B

climber
Oct 5, 2018 - 01:32pm PT
Thanks kunlun_shan,
That is the right website http://www.cochiseclimbing.com and the email is cochiseclimbing@gmail.com.
It looks like F is from AK. If so, the last guidebooks I sent to AK was ordered on the 21st and received on Oct 1st. I have the Complete Sets on sale so there was a big order I put out. If anyone knows who F is please let me know.

The place is just exquisite right now!
F

climber
away from the ground
Oct 5, 2018 - 02:03pm PT
Just checked at the P.O. Nothing yet. Sometimes they have difficulty delivering to igloos around here. Iíll give it a few more days. Thanks for shipping, I was starting to wonder.
skywalker1

Trad climber
co
Oct 5, 2018 - 02:07pm PT
Haven't seen the guidebook but is there "cragging" there? We are thinking of visiting but have children so a 7 pitch route won't work.

Thanks for any beta.

S....
ontheedgeandscaredtodeath

Social climber
Wilds of New Mexico
Oct 5, 2018 - 02:25pm PT
For cragging check out the Isle of You on the west side.
cavemonkey

Ice climber
ak
Oct 5, 2018 - 04:39pm PT
Yo F
Have some patience, Tanya's book is probs gold (haven't seen it),but straight from the horses mouth so to say. Her and Scott are good peeps and worth supporting. I do have the old Bob Kerry guide you could borrow if you are in a pinch, but frankly, a guy like you doesn't need no stinking guidebook. Just look up! I spent many winters there if you need some word of mouth info...... all I ever used.
rockgeir

Trad climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 5, 2018 - 06:34pm PT
cavemonkey,

Just fyi, Toofast Topos is written 100% based on firsthand experience. I led every climb in the book, ground-up, documenting each route meticulously as I went along. Actually, in almost all cases, I have climbed each route in my book multiple times. That is how I arrived at the level of detail and accuracy that I have achieved in Toofast Topos.

So far as I know, only a handful of other authors have undergone that kind of effort in producing their guides - I think some of the SuperTopo guides were written this way.

F, feel free to get a copy of my book if you like. Even the best climbers can benefit from a guide. :)

You can order (or instantly download) the book at www.ToofastTopos.com. I can be contacted by email at climb at geir dot com.

Enjoy!
Geir





jaredg

climber
california
Oct 5, 2018 - 06:46pm PT
In a pinch there's the old classic:
http://www.climbaz.com/Backcountry/backcountry.html
cavemonkey

Ice climber
ak
Oct 5, 2018 - 07:06pm PT
geir

I know you are local and have climbed a lot out there.
I also am familiar with all the bad blood in se az. Coming off kinda sleazy with your advertising.

And I disagree with you that all climbers can benefit from a guidebook. I personally know F, and don't think he needs either.

Just my two cents
rockgeir

Trad climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 5, 2018 - 10:50pm PT
Cavemonkey,

Nope. Not interested in sleeze or bad blood or any of that crap.

Have we even met???

Geir
rockgeir

Trad climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 5, 2018 - 11:23pm PT
For the record, I have been climbing routes and establishing FAs ground-up for about a decade. It is more challenging and fun for me. And some climbers I really admire inspired me to do it.

Doing an entire guidebook this way was the next big step. That does not mean that I expect that from everyone, but I submit to you that climbing at your best is very rewarding.

Toofast Topos is all about producing the highest quality, firsthand beta to equip climbers to climb at their best. More importantly, it is about keeping the Stronghold (or other climbing areas) pristine - something that climbers have struggled a bit with lately.

For those of you who have purchased already, thanks, and check out the Foreword, Intro, and History. They present my thinking a lot more fully.
fearfulleader

Trad climber
Phoenix, AZ
Oct 7, 2018 - 09:16am PT
Geir, is this your idea of not being interested in sleeze or bad blood?
rockgeir

Trad climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 7, 2018 - 05:04pm PT
Lol thanks for the great laugh!

I miss Jimbo.

If you would like to discuss anything I have done, though, you gotta start with your real name.

:)

rockgeir

Trad climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 7, 2018 - 05:12pm PT
Just returning from the Stronghold. Thanks all for the purchases so far!

You can order with the digital and print versions aw www.toofasttopos.com. Currently we are looking at Nov 30 as the ship date for the print version. The digital version is an immediate download.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Oct 8, 2018 - 02:10am PT
Canít wait to see this!
rockgeir

Trad climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2018 - 04:09pm PT

Thanks Jaybro!

The final edits for the hardcopy version are nearly done! We expect to start shipping on November 30. Pictured here is Clay Mansfield on the classic Sound of One Hand Thrashing. Photo credit: Peter Noebels.

Peter's photography graces many pages of this new guidebook.

Order your copy today at www.ToofastTopos.com.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Nov 10, 2018 - 12:51pm PT
Well done Geir!
This latest installment is everything that a guidebook should be.
Clear and accurate approach and route information based entirely on direct experience.
Thoughtful historical discussion and other useful background information on this unique climbing area.
Couple that with Geir's extensive personal effort to refit and replace fixed anchors in the spirit of ongoing and respectful community service to keep these amazing routes accessible and unadulterated with unnecessary bolts and you have a quality effort that is entirely worthy of your investment and support.
Buy this guidebook if you plan on visiting this amazing area and understand that there is no downside to Geir and what he stands for and creates as a dedicated climber and steward. Respect for resource, legacy and community is the gift that keeps on giving moving forward and the hallmark of all things Hundal and Toofast.
BRAVO!
Bad Climber

Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
Nov 11, 2018 - 06:50am PT
Looks great, Geir! Such a wealth of information. You're so right about maintaining the place in a clean condition. All visitors have to take it on themselves to clean up and practice minimum impact camping. It's been years since I've been there, but when we camped on the west side, the amount of TP and piles was friggin' disgusting. I filled a large plastic bag with used TP from just around my immediate camp. The dry creek you have to cross to hike up to Isle of You was a lumpy heinous cat box. Like so many climbing areas I've lived to see regulated, rangered, and fee'd, I expect that will come to Cochise if we can't police ourselves. Bury the hell out of your crap, pack out your TP, clean-up after others who are too stoopid and lazy to do it themselves. Cochise and one of the last best cragging hangs is at stake!

BAd
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Nov 18, 2018 - 11:28am PT
Bump for the perfect X-mas gift! What could be better than a trove of warm, spicy chickenheads in your stocking?!?
rockgeir

Trad climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 19, 2018 - 06:03pm PT
Thanks BAd and Steve!!

Only Ten days to go before the books are ready! The images and topos look spectacular with ink on coated paper. The rugged cover and binding are special ordered to withstand the Stronghold's toughest terrain and the most avid climber's late-night research by headlamp.

Many thanks to the folks who have bought the book so far! Promotions will start on Dec 4th in Tucson for those who want to pick up their copy in person.

You can also order online at www.ToofastTopos.com.

Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Nov 24, 2018 - 02:33pm PT
Looking forward to it!
rockgeir

Trad climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 8, 2018 - 04:11pm PT
The books are here! We are doing local promotions at Summit Hut and Rocks and Ropes/The BLOC in Tucson. If you want to order online, just visit us at www.ToofastTopos.com.

Thanks!

Geir
rockgeir

Trad climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 30, 2018 - 03:04pm PT
Happy Holidays everyone!

Thanks for all of the purchases so far, and for the kind words I have received from many of you. For those of you who would like to purchase the book in person, we will be promoting the book at local gyms through February.

You can also purchase the book online at www.ToofastTopos.com. There are a number of free topos on the website for those of you who want to sample our work.

Here's a sample of the classic Rickson/Husted route Warpath and its direct finish State of the Art (Dave Des Champs).

Enjoy!

Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Dec 31, 2018 - 02:51pm PT
Fantastic work Geir!
This latest effort and Steve Levin's Eldorado book are really the gold standard for guidebooks. Solid history and other background combined with accurate information and great illustrations make this book a real pleasure to read and use. Approach descriptions are really challenging to do well in the complicated terrain that typifies the Stronghold so there is no substitute for lots of time spent there and Geir has put that time in and then some.
Happy New Year, Geir!
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Dec 31, 2018 - 03:27pm PT
Put my order in yesterday, canít wait to get it. Iíve used Geirís topos before....precise, artfully drawn and spot on accuracy.
rockgeir

Trad climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 4, 2019 - 07:58am PT
Thanks Steve and Jim!! I appreciate your kind words!

The next book promotions are at the BLOC in Tucson on January 9th and 10th. I will be promoting the book at gyms nearby Tucson through February, and you can also order the book through our website at www.ToofastTopos.com.

donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Jan 4, 2019 - 11:03am PT
Just received my new copy...sweet! You mention in the text that mountain lions are rarely seen. On my first visit there with Jack Tackle around twenty five years ago we were driving along the dirt road that parallels the West Stronghold during twilight. Suddenly, a bobcat ran across the road thirty feet in front of the car. A minute or two later as we were commenting on the lucky sighting, we saw a mountain lion in full stride off to our right. We stopped the car and watched the lion for a full thirty seconds as it majestically ran thru the savannah.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Jan 5, 2019 - 10:51am PT
You are very lucky Jim. In all the time I have spent rambling around the desert I have never seen a mountain lion. I felt watched a few times and have seen signs of the big cats but never glimpsed one.
Jeff Gorris

climber
Not from Portlandia
Jan 7, 2019 - 07:50am PT
Super psyched to put this to good use Real Soonish!

rockgeir

Trad climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 13, 2019 - 06:41pm PT
Thanks Jeff!

For local buyers, I will be at the BLOC in Tucson on Tuesday and Thursday. Next week I'll be at Phoenix Rock Gym and the Arizona Mountaineering Club. Many thanks to the BLOC, PRG, and AMC for hosting the promotions!

You can order copies online from http://www.toofasttopos.com. The book is also available at Amazon.com and will be at retail locations soon.

Below is a sample topo from the south face of Whale Dome, with the classic Moby Dick and the rarely-climbed, but quite good, South Face.


rockgeir

Trad climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 11, 2019 - 09:00am PT
The next promotions will be at local gyms - keep an eye on our page for details. Beautiful weather will be coming soon! You can get your copy at www.ToofastTopos.com. Please share with anyone who might be interested!

steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
Feb 11, 2019 - 11:46am PT
Geir posted:
Below is a sample topo from the south face of Whale Dome, with the classic Moby Dick and the rarely-climbed, but quite good, South Face.

While not hard or devious, that South Face will get your attention. Ha ha ha. :-)

Oh yeah...bump.
rockgeir

Trad climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 17, 2019 - 09:07am PT
LOL Greg! Hope you are doing great!

The next promotions will be at the newly-renovated (and amazing) Rocks and Ropes downtown location on Feb 21st at 6pm! Stop by to see us, check out the new gym, and see the book! Hope to see you there!

If you are not local, you can order your book at www.ToofastTopos.com.

The photo is of formations in Hands Canyon, the location of some truly great routes, many of which have yet to be repeated. :)

rockgeir

Trad climber
Tucson, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2019 - 08:45pm PT

We will be doing promotions at Rocks and Ropes through the spring. Make sure to stop by and check out the new gym if you haven't already - it is spectacular! For those of you going to the Beanfest, you can pick up your copy at one of the promotions. If you can't make one of the promotions, you can order the book online at www.ToofastTopos.com. :)
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