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cornel
climber
Lake Tahoe, Nevada
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Sep 19, 2018 - 01:14pm PT
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Bernadette No...! I am so very sorry to hear this. We climbed a couple times in TMs 3 or 4 years ago. Praying you have a complete and total recovery ASAP! You are a wonderful Important part of this Tribe, very very appreciated...
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Sep 19, 2018 - 03:13pm PT
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Bump again for Bernadette.
Donate!!!!
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Fluoride
Trad climber
West Los Angeles, CA/Joshua Tree
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Sep 19, 2018 - 03:49pm PT
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SomebodyAnybody, the article said she was 100 ft up when the rescue went down so I don't think it happened on Hemingway Buttress proper, it's lower to the ground. Article just said Hemingway area. Sounds like maybe IRS Wall or Dairy Queen since those bases are higher up. I was on Lower Dairy Queen last Saturday and didn't see much evidence anyone had been up there in awhile so couldn't have been there.
Hoping for a speedy recovery for Bernadette. My heart sank when I read the KCDZ article about a ranger being injured in a climbing accident and was so hoping it wasn't her.
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Sep 19, 2018 - 06:54pm PT
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Anyway, @neebee and anyone else that's interested, feel free to email me at elizabeth.a.regan@gmail.com
If you aren't familiar with who neebee is, do a search on this forum for "neebee appreciation" She is an angel.
Sending my best for your sister's recovery. Never met her; sounds like an amazing woman.
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Loco de Pedra
Mountain climber
Around the World
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Sep 21, 2018 - 08:58am PT
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I met her few times while climbing at jtree. Super nice humble and open.
Best recovery Bernadette!
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Abend
Social climber
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Sep 21, 2018 - 04:57pm PT
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bumpity
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zip
Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
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Sep 22, 2018 - 05:33am PT
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Request sent for Bernadette's mailing address.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Sep 23, 2018 - 01:35pm PT
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Anybody know if she’d like visitors?
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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Sep 23, 2018 - 02:05pm PT
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Time for an update. Anyone?
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Tan Slacks
climber
Joshua Tree
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Sep 23, 2018 - 03:20pm PT
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This is from the 21st. A friend posted this on Facebook
This is what I know of Bernadette’s condition right now. She is improving, even speaking in full sentences. But, she is still in the ICU as she still requires intensive care. In about a week they expect that she will move to another room where she will not need to be cared for as frequently as in the ICU. Last Sunday was a busy day of visitors. Her family actually requested no visitors that following Monday just to give her a chance to rest. Friends are welcome to visit her again and visits have slowed down. Moving forward, I think we should avoid going on days/times when everyone else is likely to be visiting! Try going during the other mid week lonely days.
Finally, as I understand, Bernadette will be recovering in her own home with her mother’s and family help. Several people have expressed interest in getting a rotation of food delivery organized including Autumn Meadows, Erik Kramer-Webb and Tee Walsh, Kelly Nathan Corbin and Rebecca Dulatre Corbin and I’m sure there will be more! When she will be discharged is uncertain. Keep an eye on messages posted on Friends of Joshua Tree for details.
Hope this helps put some minds at ease. We have a great community here in the high desert. Let’s keep up the support in the months to come.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Sep 24, 2018 - 02:37am PT
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hey there, say, tan slacks... thank you so much!!! say, also,
to bern's sister...
after i emailed you:
i thought you emailed, me, with an address, but, i can't find it (the email) ...
shall i just email you again, or, would you want to email, me...
thanks...
will check back in, tomorrow...
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epecknold
Sport climber
Nederland
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Sep 24, 2018 - 07:57am PT
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Hi all,
Sorry I have been slow to reply, I was traveling the last couple days and not on my computer.
Bern is officially out of the ICU and into a trauma ward. They removed her chest tubes and she is slowly becoming more aware although she still does not remember what happened.
I am working through the many emails that I have received re: my lovely sister. I also have a visitation calendar set up and will be emailing out the link once I get things sorted out today.
Visitors are more than welcome and I am again so appreciative of everyone and anyone that has taken the time to see her.
-Liz
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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Sep 24, 2018 - 09:33am PT
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So glad to read the update(s). Best wishes to Bernadette in her recovery.
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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Sep 24, 2018 - 10:23am PT
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Liz, Bern is unfortunately NOT the first climber who suffered an accident and for whom a fund was established for obvious reasons. I (and many others) have seen this cycle a dozen or more times and here are a few things worth mentioning, IME.
First, we acknowledge that at the early stages - like the first few days - specific details per injuries is not as important as alerting the community that someone in the tribe got hurt and we need to get some funding going.
However, after a week or so and the person's basic injuries are understood in a general way, it is worth disclosing these (in general terms) because THE INJURIES DETERMINE HOW MUCH FUNDING IS REQUIRED. Quite naturally, when people are guessing per the extent of the victim's injuries, they are left to guess what's an appropriate donation.
Keeping the injuries too far on the down-low - should the injuries be serious - actually works again the funding effort because the amount required to help address serious injuries IS ALMOST ALWAYS UNDERESTIMATED AT THE OUTSET.
For example, when El Cap crusher Quinn Brett was paralyzed from her fall on The Nose, a fund was set up based on injuries that nobody fully understood because details were kept on the down low. We all understand nobody wanted to declare Quinn paralyzed from the waist down, but owing to a hammered spinal cord, doctors pretty much knew as much from the outset. Once I heard this I talked to Quinn's friend and partner Libby Sauter and said that after discussing the case with my daughter (an MD), the fund goal first established for Quinn was WAY low compared to what she'd need going forward. So her injuries were declared to our little tribe, were understood, and we all ponied up what was required.
Point being, while these are all family decisions, this is not a public forum in the regular sense. It's a forum for a specific community that Bern lives in. We all know that you can't rap off the end of a rope, hit the ground from 30 or 40 feet up and not be hurting. If we all know roughly the extent of her injuries, that, for example she was facing a lot of ortho work etc., the fund goal could be adjusted accordingly - which is the whole point.
Right now, most contributors are pitching in not knowing much of anything. I do hope that Bern's injuries are less than we all imagine, but if not, we'll need to evaluate that fund goal and adjust it accordingly.
Just my 2 cents.
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AP
Trad climber
Calgary
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Sep 24, 2018 - 10:30am PT
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Is Largo's post implying that she rapped off the end of her rope?
Or did an anchor pull?
We are all keen for details because maybe the accident analysis may help prevent a repeat.
My family will be moving to J Tree for 5 months while I will spend 50% of my time down there. We are willing to help out once Bernadette gets home.
Keep us posted.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Sep 24, 2018 - 11:01am PT
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“If we all know roughly the extent of her injuries, that, for example she was facing a lot of ortho work etc., the fund goal could be adjusted accordingly - which is the whole point.”
Edit to below:
So let's not guess, and for right now, be supportive of an important member of our community.
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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Sep 24, 2018 - 12:45pm PT
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We are all keen for details because maybe the accident analysis may help prevent a repeat.
That too. IME, it's best to do this early on because people's lives swallow them up and the issues never get addressed. Right now we're really guessing with such scant info.
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John M
climber
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Sep 24, 2018 - 02:12pm PT
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Yes Apogee.. not guess, but instead hear a report of her injuries. Thanks Largo for posting that request.
As for how it happened. Lets not do that on this thread. Lets keep this for support. Since its not Liz's forte, perhaps she could ask someone who is a climber and knows Bernadette to post up a new thread.
Edit: sorry.. I didn't realize that Liz is a climber
VVVVVVV
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John M
climber
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Sep 24, 2018 - 03:50pm PT
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Sorry Liz, I didn't see that you are a climber.
It's not like we have some right to know, no matter how concerned we may be or how much we feel it may be somehow benefit the community to know.
Certainly not a right, but perhaps a generally accepted duty to report the facts so that others can learn/ or just be reminded of what can happen to even the best of us. I reminded of Todd Skinners accident and how many climbers with older harnesses went out and bought new ones.
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bungs
Trad climber
CA
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Sep 24, 2018 - 05:53pm PT
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Right now, most contributors are pitching in not knowing much of anything. I do hope that Bern's injuries are less than we all imagine, but if not, we'll need to evaluate that fund goal and adjust it accordingly.
Want to reiterate this has happened with other accident-recovery crowdfunding attempts as well.
Hopefully the community has the patience to wait until the person with an injury speaks about what is needed, knowing that the community is willing and eager to help.
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