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Trump

climber

Sep 12, 2018 - 01:10pm PT

I’ve known Andrew McLean for decades. .. I support Andrew 100%.

My tribe’s kind of cool too. I’m gonna try to fit in and believe what they do. Hope I don’t wind up committing a felony. But if I do, I’ll bet my tribe will forgive me. What’s a little tribal collusion among friends? That sh#t makes the world go round. We don’t need no stinking witch hunt! The witches are all in the other tribe.

Jim Clipper

climber

Sep 12, 2018 - 02:08pm PT

Trump. Interests of individual groups will only become more contentious as population increases, and resources dwindle. User groups should get together to protect public lands. Otherwise, we're all just pawns.

Hardman Knott

Gym climber

Mill Valley, Ca

Sep 12, 2018 - 02:19pm PT

She'll definitely be disbarred for a felony conviction. The only hope would be lenient sentencing/suspended sentences/etc...

I'm not sure disbarrment would require a felony conviction; a misdemeanor might suffice, especially considering evidence of multiple thefts. Crimes involving moral turpitude have serious consequences for lawyers. They are held to a high moral standard and are expected to behave appropriately.

Jim Clipper

climber

Sep 12, 2018 - 02:30pm PT

Xcon? Did the hunter/goon relationship solidify as NRA membership became more and more "extreme"? Ducks Unlimited does some good, mainstream work. I know there are always exceptions.

Trump

climber

Sep 12, 2018 - 02:54pm PT

Thanks Jim. Well argued. I’d say that evolutionary psychology agrees about the argument, just maybe not the ends to which you argue it. The ends are more about the survival/thrival of the tribe than about the tribe’s imagined goals.

Can you believe how those Republicans are all lining up behind me, for the good of the tribe, despite what a criminal f*#kwad I seem to be? We’d never do that. ?

limpingcrab

Trad climber

the middle of CA

Sep 12, 2018 - 03:12pm PT

Funny that some people are on the side of the thieves.

I don't understand...

limpingcrab

Trad climber

the middle of CA

Sep 12, 2018 - 07:58pm PT

Xcon, was that response to me or the thieves? Could go either way

Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber

Out Of Bed

Sep 12, 2018 - 08:12pm PT

wOW....
& given that I took out the word Kill from the front of every line,
it still reads to harshly;so i put all the Killings back

HUMANS STILL OBSESSED WITH KILLING?
KILLING FOR SPORT IS PLAIN BAD
KILLING IS STUPID BAD
KILLING IS INSENSITIVE & BAD
KILLING THINGS THAT ARE NOT A THREAT IS JUST PLAIN STUPID BAD
KILLING IS NOT A SPORT, A SHOW OF DOMINANCE COMPENSATING FOR A FEELING IF INSIGNIFICANCE-
i CAN KILL i CAN KILL
LOOK AT WHAT i KILLED

LOOK AT HOW i KILLED A STUPID BEAST THAT JUST WALKED UNDER ME WHILE i WAS hIDING IN A TREE
SO i COULD BE A WASTE FUL STUPID HUMAN AND kILL kILL kILL

LIMPING,
i DO Limp,

but no I am not siding with the thieves, clearly if you read the bottom of my 1st post;

I have been having a similar response from my neighbor.
I'm not anti hunting, just anti-cheating at it
What determines -"By Fair Means"
hunting with lights? night vision assisted? feeding stations? brush berms? fires?
all of the above while hidding in tree stands, and scent lock blinds?
any user group that is abusing a resource makes all user groups look bad

AND FIND IT AMAZING THAT ONE WHO APPRECIATES NATURE CAN'T SEE
THAT THE HUNTERS SHOULD HAVE LESS STANDING, IF THEY ABANDON THEIR GEAR
& PAY A HIGHER PRICE FOR THE WASTING OF LIFE THEIRS & WHAT EVER THEY eEF'N KILL

That said -
I have to agree that, whatever excuses (abandoned property, etc.) It wouldn't matter,
It was beyond stupid to have taken the Items.

Destruction of the tree-stands would have been seen by the cameras.(Cutting the trees to near failure might make it more criminal)
The application of smelly substances that alert the animals; Grease and human "Offal" is more effective at stopping retarded hunters from having fun.
All available at McDonald's.
(if not gathered from a public restroom, the evidence could lead authorities to the culprits.)

While a good case can be made for the real need to kill deer to reduce over-population & to stem the rise/increase of Bears,
it should not go on in between 1/2 acre lots, in my opinion.

I have hunting going on in my back yard. Until I made an issue of seasonal restrictions, there was no enforcement.
One person uses all of the following in a 1.80 acre lot between 9 houses.
These are permanatly fixed brackets (on contested land) to hang stands on,
notice that they are only 8 feet or less up on the tree. Scent-lock blinds, tree-stands , ladder stands, Lights, fires(to mask the scent), debris berms 6-7 feet high,
salt lick/automatic, timed' feeding stations & laser sighting on the bow. As well as using night-vision eye wear.
{That I regularly defeat by shinning a spot light at}

all of these practices are in use, year round, to desensitize the prey.
& I have been told that only the discharge of a fire arm is actionable.
There is gunfire that happens occasionally, but never acted on.
I've also started a religious practice; gong playing before dawn, to Guarantee that the sun will rise.
A respect of all life is an important tenant of Buddhist thought.

limpingcrab

Trad climber

the middle of CA

Sep 12, 2018 - 08:51pm PT

Humans are omnivorous animals. It’s nature, and regulated, and not bad logically unless someone brings emotions into it.

I’m still not sure how anyone would side with thieves...?

Well, unless disagreeing with someone makes it ok to steal their stuff. I’m going to start stealing cars, but only from people that don’t use turnouts properly. Then it’s ok, and much better than dealing with them directly. Also I’m usually nice so there shouldn’t be consequences. Especially if the car owner seems like someone I don’t like in interviews.

In all seriousness. They stole stuff and knew they were doing it and had done it before. Seems like the smug ones are the thieves in this case, not the victims.

zBrown

Ice climber

Sep 12, 2018 - 08:55pm PT

Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah

Sep 12, 2018 - 01:05pm PT
Last time I was at a public range during a "cease fire" while people went to their targets, I turned around to see a fat woman taking a bead on me with a rifle.

I shouted, "WTF are you doing?"

She said, "Don't worry, the safety is on"

I should have wrapped it around her head.

I found this quite disturbing

Could not read much of any of the rest

monolith

climber

state of being

Sep 12, 2018 - 08:59pm PT

Just because we can, doesn't mean it's in our best interest.

There's plenty of evidence that we are not natural omnivores.

JLP

Social climber

The internet

Sep 12, 2018 - 09:16pm PT

They stole stuff

There is no “They”. The photos are suggesting “He” stole stuff. “She” was an accessory, at best, walking the dog, completely empty handed. A fuggin community college graduate cop and a vindictive dumbass real estate agent are now their worst problems.

I say in the end, after smarter people sift through the nonsense, she keeps her job and he does probation and community service. Neither get a felony - not even close.

limpingcrab

Trad climber

the middle of CA

Sep 12, 2018 - 09:31pm PT

I say in the end, after smarter people sift through the nonsense, she keeps her job and he does probation and community service. Neither get a felony - not even close.

Seems obvious they were both involved, and the extra stolen stuff in their cabin doesn’t bode wel. But ya, you could be right, I’m no expert on the law but wouldn’t be surprised if it turns out like you say. It’ll be interesting to see.

Just because we can, doesn't mean it's in our best interest.

There's plenty of evidence that we are not natural omnivores.

To your first point, fair enough. To the second point, we most definitely have the anatomy of omnivores.

Sorry, thread drift. I’m bad at OT threads.

thebravecowboy

climber

The Good Places

Sep 12, 2018 - 09:39pm PT

JLP says that the crime is lesser than stealing cigars and is NBD. Ask Michael Brown about that, if you would.

JLP

Social climber

The internet

Sep 13, 2018 - 06:49am PT

Ask Michael Brown about that

Exactly - someone ran into an ineffective cop dumber than a bag of rocks - didn’t go well for him. I would hope the McLeans do better.

Toker Villain

Big Wall climber

Toquerville, Utah

Sep 13, 2018 - 03:26pm PT

zBrown,

just takes a few idiots with guns to tarnish the lot of us.

Chaz

Trad climber

greater Boss Angeles area

Sep 13, 2018 - 03:33pm PT

Wow. Living the dream, by all accounts, but it wasn't good enough. They could have just stayed home and enjoyed a glass of wine, but they had to go out and f*#k with someone else's stuff.

I find it hard to believe he was stealing.

The dictionary definition of "theft" ...

"the taking of another person's property or services without that person's permission or consent with the intent to deprive the rightful owner of it"

... sounds exactly like what they did.

Working as a team, packing bolt cutters into the woods, and making multiple trips to get the stuff shows a degree of criminal sophistication the court will have a hard time overlooking.

This whole thing's funny as hell!

It's not the crime of the century. Nobody got hurt. The victim lost recreational equipment - not work tools, or something he needs to earn a living.

Nobody's going to prison or even jail. They'll end up on probation. For a few years they'll be treated like children by a series of probation officers young enough to be their children. They may have to attend an *anger management* program, or get other counseling, like AA if they're found to be drinkers.

These two will probably have to re-invent themselves. I can't imagine anyone with a recent theft conviction on their record working as a city attorney. Can't do much ski touring when the terms of probation prohibit setting foot on public lands or leaving the county without permission of a probation officer. Unless they have other sources of income they may have to leave their high-dollar neighborhood and find a more affordable place to live. They're smart (up to a point) and motivated. They'll do better than most convicted criminals, especially if they take their rehabilitation seriously.

Moral of the story: When you're living the dream, count your goddamn blessings and live the dream - and let everybody else live theirs.

Toker Villain

Big Wall climber

Toquerville, Utah

Sep 13, 2018 - 03:59pm PT

Yeah, I'm not a hunter, but if the antelope start eating the feed I grow for the stock (you can't fence out antelope), then I might apply for a depredation tag.

If hunters leave me alone I do the same. Chaz is right; leave others to their dreams. There are far better ways to convince people to reduce meat consumption. (Says I over a turkey sandwich,..)

Maybe if he didn't work for BD I'd have more sympathy, but I hate thieves.