Does anyone remember a climber named Luke Stong

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Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Dec 26, 2012 - 10:13pm PT
A google search brings up an obit for the parents of a Luke Stong, Grand Junction/Aspen area. Dated early 2003 and list him as surviving offspring.

Nobody by that name in the California prison system.
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 26, 2012 - 10:35pm PT
I still have the old green Meyers Yosemite book
Luke gave me back in 77.

Credit: Cosmiccragsman
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Dec 26, 2012 - 10:39pm PT
It will be an interesting time when Luke decides to start posting on SuperTopo !
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 26, 2012 - 10:41pm PT
We gotta climb again one of these days, Jim B.
I remember the good old days back in the 80s.
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Dec 26, 2012 - 10:57pm PT
Yeah Dwain,

Climbing in the 80's had a purity of notion that's hard to come by in middle age. It was a freak show for all the good reasons. Some were good, some were bad but some went too far and chopped up their granny and stowed her in a trunk...

Why ? How? How come why? There's no explaining levels of reason I guess for the affected who deliver psycho killer effect.

I do believe the world is good and almost all the people in it are OK, reasonably, regardless of a preponderance of C- life scores in ethics...

I was thinking a while ago about how fresh and chill the Joshua Tree air was, holding promise at sun rise.

PM me your schedule for 2013 !
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 26, 2012 - 11:02pm PT
I will JB, but it would be better if you pmed me with your schedule of when you will be down in this area.

I sure wish Bear was still around to share in the reunion
BASE104

Social climber
An Oil Field
Dec 26, 2012 - 11:03pm PT
I googled the snot out of him and hist grandma's name but came up empty except for a mention in a geneology page. I'm not sure I got the names right.

I was in the valley during that time, but never even heard of this. I wasn't exactly clued in, though.

I do remember the gear thefts. It got so bad that every week you would hear of someone getting their racks stolen from leaving them at the top of fixed lines.
BJ

climber
Dec 26, 2012 - 11:08pm PT
http://inmatelocator.cdcr.ca.gov/default.aspx

He's not in the system
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 26, 2012 - 11:14pm PT
BJ;
I don't think he was in the correctional system
I believe he was commited to a psych facility.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Dec 26, 2012 - 11:20pm PT
One of Layton's partners killed a woman and got busted after she was in the trunk of his car for 4 days, and one of the climbers who made a very early ascent of the Nose killed many people.
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Dec 26, 2012 - 11:30pm PT
Inmate locator is not always right, one Chula Vista killer is not listed, but I know where he is.

From CCCman's photo, it does appear that the folks in Colorado were Stong's parents.


Yikes:


One of Layton's partners killed a woman and got busted after she was in the trunk of his car for 4 days, and one of the climbers who made a very early ascent of the Nose killed many people. Quote Here

Capt.

climber
some eastside hovel
Dec 26, 2012 - 11:34pm PT
^^Napa ?
atchafalaya

Boulder climber
Dec 26, 2012 - 11:34pm PT
If alive, more likely Napa, or residing in a locked, secured residential care facility. His criminal case went to the Cal. Sup. Ct in 1993, but they denied review.
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 26, 2012 - 11:38pm PT
Just Talked with my friend Tom.
Luke still is, or was in Patton.
Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Dec 26, 2012 - 11:43pm PT
Ron, she actually froze to death. He shot her, she survived, and they found her frozen and clearly in the act of crawling out of his van. He was a few hundred yards away and in fact shot himself but survived. He's out of Canyon City. In fact I met him last Summer. It freaked me out for very personal reasons. The abduction happened in front of my college advisors house and he was the guy that called the police. He still lives with the guilt of that call not saving her life. She was 19. Anyhow just felt I should clear that up a little and not to call out you by any means.

I seem to remember Kenny pulling a block off on himself. That was a bad year for the Boulder community. Lots of carnage.
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Dec 26, 2012 - 11:45pm PT
1999 article - Chula Vista family killers

Goedecke is dead
Morse is still in prison, doesn't show up in locator

This article profiles 12 murderers identified by prosecutors and police officers as truly evil due to their lack of remorse, their killings of police officers, their being a police officer who killed, or their multiple murders.
Abstract: Brenda Spencer was 16 years old in 1979 when she shot and killed an elementary school principal and custodian and wounded eight children and a police officer. Veronica and Ivan Gonzales abused and tortured their niece to death and became the first married couple in California to go on death row. Other offenders in this group include triple murderer Joseph Bernard Morse and murderers Robert Alton Harris and Raymond Goedecke. Charles Tyberg and Joselito Cinco killed police officers and were sentenced to death. California Highway Patrol Officer Craig Peyer strangled a 20-year-old woman. Cleophus Prince, Jr., was prosecuted for the stabbing deaths of six women in 1993. Other serial killers profiled include David Lucas and Brandon Wilson

Luke Stong is still alive by the lookup that reveals Goedecke is dead.
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Dec 27, 2012 - 12:07am PT
Toadsky,

Poor old Luke spent his time stealing climbing gear at the top of fixed ropes and then ultimately murdered and cut up his grand mother so she would fit in the trunk of her car he then stole.

Mental illness for being wierd only, as described and sometimes cured, is a long way from proper state sanctions for working one's amateur butchering skills on an old woman and stuffing her bits in a trunk...

Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Dec 27, 2012 - 12:09am PT
Allen, consider the source.
Thanks for the correction.
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Dec 27, 2012 - 12:12am PT
As the California Supreme Court powerfully stated in _People v. Morse_, the jury "looks at the individual as a whole being and decides
if he is fit to live," 60 Cal.2d 631, 637. In making this awesome
decision, the jury is guided by the instructions of the trial judge,
which define a reasoned process for approaching what remains a
profoundly moral decision about the value of a human life.

If, upon weighing the applicable aggravating and
mitigating factors, you conclude that the
appropriate penalty is life imprisonment without
the possibility of parole, then it would be a
violation of your duty as jurors to return a
verdict of death out of fear or concern that the
Department of Corrections or its Director may fail
in their responsibilities under law to provide the
defendant with psychotherapy or other care which
may be needed to achieve rehabilitation or prevent
future acts of violence."

Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Dec 27, 2012 - 12:39am PT
Consider the source! That's for sure Ron. Funny you should mention the other guy. The last route I did this past fall is one of his. Absolutely classic 5 inch offwidth to a scary face protected by two bolts he drilled something like 40 years ago. His Platte routes are all genius.
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