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High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Jan 10, 2019 - 08:03am PT
re: Icarus

Just want to give a shout out to... Icarus (2017). It was mentioned, along with The Program (2015), in the Lance Armstrong Alex Honnold sitdown (previous page). I thought it was very good - smartly showcasing a number of subjects / issues.

Icarus won an Oscar, Best Documentary, 2017. It's currently showing at netflix.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6333060/?ref_=nv_sr_1
7SacredPools

Trad climber
Ontario, Canada
Jan 10, 2019 - 05:19pm PT
That a great interview Alex does with Lance Armstrong - who didn't ask any inane questions the way Joe Rogan did.

Nice to see him so happy, even says he might never do another significant solo.
Would have liked to of heard more about his world view and foundation though.

TFPU High Fructose
NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Jan 10, 2019 - 07:19pm PT
HFCS, thanks for heads up on Icarus... just watched it on Netflix. Quite an amazing story, almost seems like fiction how the beginning leads to that ending.

* SPOILER ALERT *

I recommend not reading below if you are unfamiliar with the story and plan to watch it. It is more beautiful to let it unfold when you know nothing about it.


Some dots that I didn't connect until a few minutes after watching:

1. The initial impetus for the documentary is to show that anti-doping regulations and enforcement are ineffective, through a personal example of the author in the amateur cycling world.
2. The case is made that doping is widespread in the cycling world, and Lance was singled out for doing it.
3. Russia is singled out for having a long-running doping scheme, which begs the parallel question, what other countries are also doing it? Most/all?
4. Further begging the question, the International Olympic Committee ignores the conclusive findings of the World Anti-Doping Agency that Russia was systematically doping their athletes, and reverses the ban on Russia so they can compete in Rio Olympics. What could have motivated this?
 Increase ratings/interest by maintaining the classic world rivalries?
 Extortion? Maybe Russia was able to expose the dirt on other (all?) countries also doping their athletes?
 Threats/bribery to IOC members?

The documentarian set out to use his amateur cycling hobby as a way to prove his thesis, which was already interesting, and then it turned spy novel and gave way to an odyssey involving the highest possible level of global story definitively demonstrating his thesis. Brilliant.

Frustrating for the athletes who have some sense of honor or values tied to performing without enhancements, and perhaps disillusioning for fans who feal "cheated" in some way by this. But the results of the documentarian in his personal odyssey also point toward a path for reconciliation. He showed that his own elite-level doping regimen was not sufficient to overtake the performance of other amateur athletes who were better than him. (Or maybe, they had the same or better drug regimens too)

(Bringing it back on-topic to climbing here....) It reminds me of a primary ethos for climbers sharing their exploits- just be honest about what you did and how you did it and let others enjoy that for what it is. The point is that everyone at elite levels is optimizing their training regimen, and if the standard is to include performance enhancing drugs, then just accept that that's what people are doing and don't cast shame on it. Just put it out there and let the peanut galleries judge. The only reason this is a problem is because too much money and pride and identity of individuals and groups and countries get wrapped up in the results of the competition.

* END SPOILER ALERT *


And finally.... back on track to the thread topic...

I'm psyched to see Free Solo for first time this weekend on IMAX! The big dome at the Tech Museum in Santa Clara. Tickets bought, dragging my daughter along. Thanks Ed for posting the locations.
MGuzzy

Trad climber
Orangevale
Jan 11, 2019 - 10:24am PT
Here's a link to the foreign Grosses. Those Brits need to pick it up! I wonder when it gets released in the rest of Europe.
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=freesolo.htm


Country.........Dist....ReleaseDate.....Opening Wknd.....% of Total.....Total Gross / As Of

Australia.......Madman.....12/13/18.....$74,410.....85%.....$87,515.....12/16/18
New Zealand.....Madman.....12/13/18.....$39,598.....51.2%.....$77,273.....1/6/19
United Kingdom..Dogwoof.....12/14/18.....$487,605.....36.8%.....$1,324,712.....1/6/19
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Jan 11, 2019 - 10:36am PT
NutAgain, glad to see you enjoyed Icarus.

Like you, I could say more about it all (incl the rampant corruption seemingly most everywhere in the human condition) but right now I'm rather exhausted having spent so much time this morning so far in social media re the culture wars in academia. I need a break now, a big one.

Enjoy your IMAX experience.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jan 11, 2019 - 10:11pm PT
Saw it at IMAX in San Jose, it was worth it in some ways... and good to see it again in a very different venue than the Auditorium in the Valley (which was awesome, of course).

Rattlesnake Arch

Social climber
Home is where we park it
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 12, 2019 - 02:56am PT
"Free Solo" won 3 Cinema Eye Honors Awards, including "Outstanding Achievement in Production"," Outstanding Achievement in Cinematography", and the one we all voted for, "Audience Choice". Chai, Jimmy and Mikey Schaeffer all won awards. Alex has previously been named to the "Unforgettables", a non competitive honor.

Congratulations for the much deserved wins!!!

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lists/cinema-eye-honors-2019-complete-winners-list-1175208
Rattlesnake Arch

Social climber
Home is where we park it
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 12, 2019 - 03:24am PT
Roger Breedlove

climber
Cleveland Heights, Ohio
Jan 12, 2019 - 09:49am PT
Nice interview. Vasarhelyi and Chin are getting better and better in explaining their film and art.

But.....in the still above, Alex is holding onto Jimmy's frame. Is that cheating?
Dingus Milktoast

Trad climber
Minister of Moderation, Fatcrackistan
Jan 12, 2019 - 03:38pm PT
Dab

DMT
Rattlesnake Arch

Social climber
Home is where we park it
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 14, 2019 - 02:57am PT
But.....in the still above, Alex is holding onto Jimmy's frame.

That must be the frame that he would fall through to his death...
Port

Trad climber
Stockholm, Sweden 🇸🇪
Jan 14, 2019 - 05:39am PT
Alex even made TMZ

https://www.tmz.com/2019/01/13/alex-honnold-climbed-el-capitan-mountain-rope-death-movie-documentary/

Chief

climber
The NW edge of The Hudson Bay
Jan 14, 2019 - 08:40am PT
I'm real curious about Alex referencing roping up for an ascent with Croft then cutting loose above the Boulder Problem.
Did this really happen and is there video to prove it?
Was this premeditated or did Alex ditch his date in a fit of toxic masculinity?
Did Peter rap off or jug out?

Does this even matter?
mikeyschaefer

climber
Sport-o-land
Jan 14, 2019 - 10:29am PT
Yep, Alex did attempt freerider with Peter. They made it up to the boulder problem and then Peter wasn't feeling it anymore. I rapped with Peter. Alex solo'd the next two pitches and then mini traxioned to the top on our fixed ropes. I think I scared Peter a little bit simulrapping on a 9mm static and 6.5mm static. That was a first for him!
Chief

climber
The NW edge of The Hudson Bay
Jan 14, 2019 - 10:42am PT
Mikey,

Thank you for that.
More details in an incredible story.

Respect!

PB
MGuzzy

Trad climber
Orangevale
Jan 14, 2019 - 10:48am PT
Well lookey here.. looks like a little IMAX release bump at box office

Free Solo after IMAX release
Free Solo after IMAX release
Credit: MGuzzy
Source:
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons/Free-Solo-(Documentary)-(2018)/Dawn-Wall-The-(Austria)
and
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=daily&id=freesolo.htm
okay, whatever

climber
Jan 14, 2019 - 10:57am PT
A minor footnote: I believe Derek Hersey, who was a prolific free-soloist back in the 1980's, died when he fell while third-classing the Steck-Salathe.
Rattlesnake Arch

Social climber
Home is where we park it
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 15, 2019 - 01:20pm PT
Any Federal employees among us?

http://press.nationalgeographic.com/2019/01/14/national-geographic-offering-federal-employees-complimentary-tickets-to-see-free-solo-in-imax/
Dingus Milktoast

Trad climber
Minister of Moderation, Fatcrackistan
Jan 15, 2019 - 01:31pm PT
Got to see the film again last night at Sacramento Imax with my daughters. Excellent and they loved it!

We were of course talking about it afterward. They haven't followed the whole saga and I didn't talk it up. I was curious how they would react. Both grew up climbing with me. They're both in their 20s.

Gabby, my eldest, said she was measuring her heart rate with her phone. I could see she was gripped during the whole solo sequence. The filmmakers did such a great job with the tone of suspense! She said she topped out at 95 bpm!

Kaity really dug the Tommy's comment about 'people who know a little about rock climbing are, whatever. But people who know a lot about climbing are freaking out!" Kaity was freaking out, man!

Given we're family we have similar gestures of course, when stressed. All three of us were gnawing the index knuckle at one point. And being Milktoasts we each noticed the others doing it too. We had a laugh about it later.

Kaity added that the Monster Offwidth really stunned her. She was picturing herself in there. (I used to enjoy torturing my children on kid-sized offwidths when they are tots and those scars have stuck with her, haha!). Kaity is actually quite good on the wide, though not that good!

They asked me what my favorite part was. Frankly, the whole film is my favorite part but my answer was:

"The parts where Mikey Schafer just couldn't bear to look through the camera lens. To me that summed up the suspense and anxiety of it all and really set the tone for that whole successful bid."

I meant it too. It really is a fine piece of film making and editing in my uneducated opinion. When the pros who are there can't bear to watch, it really conveys the (cough) gravity of the situation.

Imax presentation format was great too.

DMT
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Jan 15, 2019 - 03:25pm PT
Still nada in AR. Guess I really am in the backwaters.
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