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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 20, 2018 - 10:26pm PT
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I'm putting together an old school trad rack of stoppers, hexes, tri-cams, tube chocks and a few other bits to go over the mantle piece. Need some old Chouinard biners to round it out. Don't intend to actually use it, so beaters are perfect.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Aug 20, 2018 - 10:33pm PT
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Just pulled all mine off my rack when I realized what they were going for on Ebay. More than the price of wire gates.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Outside the Asylum
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Aug 20, 2018 - 10:34pm PT
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I may have a few Robbins ovals - would they do?
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 20, 2018 - 10:56pm PT
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Yeah Anders; in fact, don't have any Robbins biners. That would be great! SMC's or other old brands are good too. Ovals or D's. I don't mind ponying up a few bills but it's not worth paying ebay prices.
Anyone that has something, email me at:
johntpenca@gmail.com
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Delhi Dog
climber
Good Question...
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Aug 20, 2018 - 11:43pm PT
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hah, I still use mine...
Well, except for the ones that I returned because of the cracks in them.
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zip
Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
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Aug 21, 2018 - 12:43am PT
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I got a box of that stuff you can have.
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Gunkie
Trad climber
Valles Marineris
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Aug 21, 2018 - 04:26am PT
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Just pulled all mine off my rack when I realized what they were going for on Ebay. More than the price of wire gates.
Time to upgrade my rack.
I was climbing in the Gunks last week and it became readily apparent that my rigid stem Friends and non-wire gate carabiners were just so dated. But they still work great. I'm too cheap of a bastard to just trash my old reliable gear for new stuff; but if I'm getting $15 for each of my old biners, SOLD. And I have a pile of those old orange gate Bonatti 'D' biners that had gates with such a strong spring that when pumped, there was a good chance I wouldn't be able to open them. I racked those strategically.
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 21, 2018 - 10:49am PT
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Thanks zip. Send me an email. I'll cover shipping and some cash for the time and biners. I have plenty of old time chocks, just want old school biners.
Thanks!
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Aug 21, 2018 - 01:32pm PT
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Rigid stems are still better for some horizontal cracks.
Looking at those listings might be time to sell on eBay,...
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Outside the Asylum
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Aug 21, 2018 - 02:31pm PT
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John, are you coming to the Facelift? If so, I can trawl through stuff, and see if there's anything that might be useful in your display. IIRC, you very kindly sent me some old gear (magazines?) some years ago. Let me know if you need my e-mail.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Aug 21, 2018 - 02:43pm PT
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$25 for some old heavy biner? Americans are so stoopid.
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 21, 2018 - 07:19pm PT
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ohn, are you coming to the Facelift? If so, I can trawl through stuff, and see if there's anything that might be useful in your display. IIRC, you very kindly sent me some old gear (magazines?) some years ago. Let me know if you need my e-mail.
Won't make it this year. TK wrote me and says she has some bits. I'm in no hurry. I sent you an old mag of Sheridan Anderson's cartoons to give to TK. You sent me some photos of her standing on her head.
All I'm looking for are about 30 old school beaten biners. Don't care who made them, Chouinad, Robbins, SMC, Liberty, Eiger; it's all good. I have the chocks. Just want to put an authentic old school rack over the mantle.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Aug 21, 2018 - 09:48pm PT
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I was going through a friend of mine Peter Noebels' rack before heading up on a route and I spied at late 60s Chouinard biner. Close inspection revealed that the tight turn on the hinge side of the modified D carabiner looked like the cut end of a popover with tight layers all neatly flaking away from each other!
"Hey Peter, this biner is reverting back to its mineral state and maybe we should take it out of service and let it keep going", I said. He was horrified because everyone implicitly trusts Chouinard carabiners of any provenance.
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zip
Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
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Aug 23, 2018 - 05:57am PT
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Ok, I got a box of that stuff. I hope to have a day off within the next week or so to dig through it.
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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Aug 23, 2018 - 09:50pm PT
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I am still looking for a few Chouinard carabiners as well. Mostly the colored Quicksilvers...
 karabin714(at)gmail.com
Michael Chessler recently donated a 1989 Quicksilver and a 1989 Anthracite Quicksilver so I now have those which are not added on the display board yet.
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Tobia
Social climber
Denial
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Aug 25, 2018 - 07:12am PT
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zip, I sent you an email via the taco email, did you get it?
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zip
Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
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Aug 30, 2018 - 07:43am PT
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Ok, I found the box of all my old stuff.
I have Monday off, and I will sort through it then, and post pics here.
Tell me what you want, and I'll send it to you.
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zip
Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
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Aug 30, 2018 - 07:44am PT
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Tobia, sorry nope.
I don't think that function works.
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Aug 30, 2018 - 08:05am PT
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Speaking of old Chouinard biners, not safe to climb with, a few years back, I bought 5 Mid-80's to early 90's vintage Chouinard & Black Diamond Big D Lockers on E-Bay as collectables not for use.
The two Black Diamond ones had cracks in the gate, where the gate-pin is.
Out of curiousity, I called Black Diamond customer service & was assured biners that old were no longer in warranty.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Aug 30, 2018 - 08:07am PT
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Age alone does not weaken a biner
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