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astralboy15

Mountain climber
Fremont, CA
Sep 3, 2018 - 09:29pm PT
With Xavier’s win at UTMB we’ve just witnessed one of the all time accomplishments in ultra running (it’s never been done before). For all intents and purposes Xavier crushed and won HR (the DQ was bullshit and we all know he is the true champion) and in the same year crushed and won UTMB. This is a first. He deserves major credit.
Gunkie

Trad climber
Valles Marineris
Sep 4, 2018 - 07:13am PT
Any of you trail runners who go out training by yourselves ever encounter a cougar (or bear)? Would it be better to be on a mountain bike or running when that kind of encounter occurs? I'm thinking that I'd rather be running as I could stop quick and make myself big or grab one of the many loaded guns laying about. I think I would feel far more vulnerable out riding as I wouldn't be as responsive or as intuitive as I would be running; and certainly couldn't out ride a cougar in hot pursuit.

Scary thoughts...
mooch

Trad climber
Tribal Base Camp (Riverkern Annex)
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 4, 2018 - 10:55am PT
Trigger pulled......registered for Sean O'Brien 100K.
PinkTaco

Mountain climber
Utah
Sep 4, 2018 - 08:09pm PT
https://vimeo.com/62031855

Goggins also can do a few pull ups. Here he is in the World Record 24-hour pull up session.

I ran w him for a while at UTMB one year, and a few times at HURT. He's actually a big joker and a really nice guy! Just don't ask him about swimming ashore in Kuwait...
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Sep 7, 2018 - 10:15pm PT
Courtney Dauwalter, yay!

http://www.tahoe200.com/results/2018-tahoe-200-live/

7:45am... She's a beast! Still miles ahead of anyone!!
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Sep 8, 2018 - 03:31pm PT
Courtney closing in on Lovers Leap, another 30 minutes or so. If you're topping out Main Wall, say hi, lol!

All runners have SPOT trackers. Courtney leading the whole pack, male and female alike. The graphics are awesome!

The Main Map and Raceflow tabs are especially informative. She's rather "alien" in a good way like Honnold.

If you filter out the males, all of whom she's beating, and just look at the layer of female runners, it really shows her out of this world alien strength!

Kyle Curtin, first place guy, has been pacing her from behind pretty much the whole way. Exciting!

http://www.tahoe200.com/results/2018-tahoe-200-live/

Also really revealing is zooming out the map of runners to notice where Courtney and Kyle are relative to the rest of the pack. She's rather a Honnold in her own way.

That Raceflow function makes it exciting - currently - because it shows Kyle ever so slightly narrowing the pace and distance gaps. Call me biased but I hope she maintains her alien lead throughout.

Crazy thing: Despite 200 plus runners participating, Courtney and Kyle essentially run the race alone, by themselves, no other runner around them for miles. Contrast this experience with that of a middle of the pack runner. Sheesh.
Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Sep 8, 2018 - 04:54pm PT
Wow, she's been amazing the past few years.
If she keeps up her current pace, she will finish in about 35 hours.
(See next post for updated estimate).

[Oops: this is for a 165 mile trail:] Course record is 38:32 by Kilian Journet.
http://fastestknowntime.proboards.com/thread/36/tahoe-rim-trail-ca
[Click to View YouTube Video]
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Sep 9, 2018 - 02:14am PT
C'mon, Courtney, hang in there... Show em who's the boss!!

Clint, Tahoe 200 is even longer.
Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Sep 9, 2018 - 02:20am PT
Wow, yeah. Tahoe Rim Trail is 165 miles, not 200.

Apparently the course record for the Tahoe 200 is 58:29, set last year:
https://multidays.com/tahoe-200-endurance-run-2017-results/

Courtney's current pace looks like she will finish in around 46 hours and Kyle is not far behind.
But 200 miles is a such a long way; no guarantees....
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Sep 9, 2018 - 02:50am PT
Yeah, mighty impressive!

Just captured... to help remember the final drama...

Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Sep 9, 2018 - 02:12pm PT
Looks like Kyle won it in 49:31 (49 hours, 31 minutes),
with Courtney 23 minutes back in 49:54.
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Sep 9, 2018 - 06:28pm PT
Such an exciting adventure. Kudos to Kyle and Courtney and the many other runners still on the course 50 plus hours since the start.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BnhdzPuFdic/?taken-by=destinationtrailraces

https://www.instagram.com/p/BnhAN_TFI_k/?taken-by=destinationtrailraces

It's hard to believe Courtney beat last year's female champion by approx 20 hours!

Clint, I have a sneaking suspicion you enjoyed the telemetry and graphic spectator interface (gsi, lol) as much as me. I'm always rather envious of the participants in these sorts of thing, wishing they had existed in my 20 30 somethings. No doubt I would've liked participating - adventure, telemetry, organization and all!

"Graphic spectator interface". I like it. :)

http://www.tahoe200.com/results/2018-tahoe-200-live/

Here it is, 6:35pm Sunday, and Third Place contender - currently looking to be Taylor Spike - is still more than an hour from the finish.

This...
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bniew31Fz_-/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet

Incredible!!
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Sep 9, 2018 - 08:19pm PT
I'm so far from "Ultra" that I feel like an ass posting on this thread... oh, wait, Hank has the "ass" part nailed down, so maybe it's okay for a few words about trail running.

For many years I lived in North Vancouver, almost at the point where the city ended and the next few thousand miles of mountains began. I could lace up my shoes, jog four or five blocks on streets, and then be on a mountain trail system that went on more or less forever. Hundreds of miles of trails through the BC Coast Mountains.

I think it was running those trails that kept me sane and alive through the whole time I lived there.

I'm getting a bit to old for that kind of thing now, but am moving from Seattle (where I've spent the last 17 years) to Powell River, BC, next month, so who knows? Trail running might become trail jogging. Or trail trudging. But there will once again be an endless network of mountain trails to explore.
atchafalaya

Boulder climber
Sep 9, 2018 - 08:34pm PT
mooch

Trad climber
Tribal Base Camp (Riverkern Annex)
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 10, 2018 - 10:02am PT
Ghost -

We can be race directors for the inaugural 'Cruise For Brews 100'. Primary rule: Must drink a pint of brew (6.5% ABV or higher) during each aid station check in. :) We can work on the rest....
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Sep 10, 2018 - 10:03am PT
I think it was running those trails that kept me sane and alive through the whole time I lived there. -Ghost

I think I can relate, also from long ago.

Your Powell River looks like an interesting place...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powell_River,_British_Columbia

Sunshine Coast Trail. Looks cool. Will check out later.
https://www.ubc-voc.com/2013/07/24/team-alpine-start-and-the-sunshine-coast-trail-june-20-july-1-2013

So many venues in this wonder we call life. :)

Sometimes as needed I recall my basic energy physics 101... Whether we blaze from point A to point B or muddle through (trudge), we burn the same calories. (Helpful sometimes when your goal is just burning calories.)
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Sep 11, 2018 - 11:41am PT
Your Powell River looks like an interesting place...

It is. Trail running, mountain biking, sea kayaking, fishing... It's all there. And it's even more interesting if you are a climber. Everything from seaside bouldering to huge walls.

How huge? Last year a couple of local climbers put up a new route in the nearby Daniels River Valley. 1,565 meters of granite climbing. (That's well over 5,000 feet for the Americans here on ST.) Story of that is here: https://gripped.com/news/massive-new-big-wall-climbed-powell-river/

And then there's the Eldred River Valley, which has been the subject of several threads here. Five granite walls of roughly Squamish Chief size.

Okay, this thread now has climbing content, so I'll shut up.

Edit: And I see Mooch added some beer content, so, for him, I should add that Powell River is home to a terrific brewpub -- with a Belgian brewmaster.
psykokid

Mountain climber
Pasadena
Sep 14, 2018 - 11:04am PT
Looks like Aurelien Sanchez is on track to beat Andy Bentz's unsupported JMT FKT. He tried last year and bailed. He tried again starting around 10:00 on Aug 31 and bailed at Tuolumne on Sept 3 at 17:30 due to lack of sleep. A week later on Sept 11 at 9:54:30 he was at it again. If he can manage to keep his current pace he's on track to finish in 76 hours, give or take - around 7 hours faster than Andy's 82H 59M time.

https://spotwalla.com/tripViewer.php?id=1b1565b92f5a5e6653&showInfo=yes&showHome=yes&hoursPast=80&fillFactor=100&zoomLevel=10&showAll=no
clifff

Mountain climber
golden, rollin hills of California
Sep 14, 2018 - 04:22pm PT
1st attempt:

@aurelien-sanchez

Thank you very much for following, this give me a lot, I truly appreciate your interest about my attempt, and this motivates me even more to give it another try next time.

I have posted my report on my facebook: https://www.facebook.com/auresanchz/posts/10215668950944268

He's finished with new record: 2nd part of this thread:

https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/aurelien-unsupported-jmt-attempt/

76 hrs 20 minutes 30 sec

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Indian running legends:

In 1886, a Panta-cha messenger was reported to have taken less than twenty-four hours to cover nearly 200-miles from Fort Mohave to the Mohave reservation and back.

https://thelongbrownpath.com/2015/07/29/indian-running/
Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Sep 14, 2018 - 11:14pm PT
In the 200+ mile distances (John Muir Trail, Tahoe 200), performance under sleep deprivation is a big factor.

In the 100- mile distances (Western States, Hardrock 100, UTMB, Wonderland Trail), the top athletes can do them without sleep deprivation, so they are more about athletic endurance and efficiency.

So I think for the JMT, it would be good to have separate FKTs for one or two segments that are close to 100 miles.
A good division might be:

JMT South:
Whitney Portal to Florence Lake Junction, about 116 miles according to Leor Pantilat's splits.

JMT North:
Florence Lake Junction to Yosemite Valley; about 104 miles.

The beginning and end points of the JMT are arbitrary anyway....
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