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Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 16, 2018 - 11:47am PT

Maine, The Woods and The Sea


In The Woods and the Sea, (Knopf), Dudley Cammett Lunt makes the theme of these books explicit: "I am one who likes links with the past," he says. His past is a savory Maine boyhood: his grandfather's house, remembered for its abundance of cherries and peaches; delightful summers at Pine Point, where fire balloons were sent aloft on the Fourth of July if there was a light offshore air; the marvelous clambakes of Uncle Ira on the shore of some tidal river, reachable only by birchbark canoe; early canoe trips past the relics of log drives; "booms, cribs, sluices, dams, tramways, yards, tote roads." Many of these relics are rotting into oblivion. "The forest is taking over again," Lunt says. He closes his book with a plea that motors be kept from the proposed Allagash National Riverway. "Keep it wild," he says. "For God's sake, keep it wild."


Some of the books written by Dudley Lunt include The Road to the Law (1932); The Bounds of Delaware (1947); The Farmers Bank: an historical account of the president, directors and company of The Farmers Bank of the State of Delaware, 1807–1957 (1957); and Thousand Acre Marsh (1959), a book describing the marshes, swamps, and tidal creeks of both Maine and Delaware. He also wrote Tales of the Delaware Bench and Bar (1963), which sketches the development of the court system in Delaware from colonial times; The Woods and the Sea (1965), a collection of reflections on the natural settings of Maine, and Taylors Gut (1968), the focus of this manuscript collection. Mr. Lunt also edited several volumes of Thoreau’s works, one of which was The Concord and the Merrimack (1954).

I found this surprise in my PO box today:


From John Gould's "Maine Lingo" I have now even learned what a democrat hound is in Maine... ^^^^

Thanks to you, Dale. Much appreciated...
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Aug 16, 2018 - 02:19pm PT
perswig

climber
Aug 16, 2018 - 02:36pm PT
Ah, it got there - awesome!
My first attempt at international shipping (if you don't count a couple years mule-ing smack...), I was getting worried.

The least I could do as a thank-you for the rucks and your generosity, as well as for the long-running historical threads and photos a-plenty.
Hope you enjoyed some of our local lore and charm.

Dale

(and props to Trad for a Great Head photo)
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Aug 16, 2018 - 02:37pm PT
They talk real phunny in Maine, but is nice, near the ocean. 100 meters inland and you’re meat.
Nick Danger

Ice climber
Arvada, CO
Aug 16, 2018 - 03:48pm PT
I did my master's thesis field work in Maine - awesome country and folks. Great geology too, once you peel away the trees and moss. I love that place. Truly breath-taking insects as well. There is a reason they say the mosquito is the state bird.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Aug 16, 2018 - 04:02pm PT
The skeeters won’t kill you. The ticks will. 🙁
wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Aug 16, 2018 - 06:04pm PT
Skiing in the Camden Hills,man...
tradman definitely has photographic skill.
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Aug 16, 2018 - 07:06pm PT
Isa took that shot of me at Great Head Acadia.
skywalker1

Trad climber
co
Aug 16, 2018 - 09:34pm PT
Paddled the Dead river there once. There was a general store at some intersection (the only one) and you could buy anything from rice to shot guns and bear traps. The put in was so far up this logging road that it basically ran out and its like well I guess this is the put in. The river was awesome! Like 9,000 cfs.

I had to buy mosquito netting for the black flies that were all over me and my dog. She had to stay in the van for the run. Black flies are no joke.

We ran the Kennibec afterward at 4,000? What a fun time!!!

S...

Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 17, 2018 - 09:29am PT

Allagash History

The area from which many lumber industries drew their wealth was previously the home of Native American tribes that archaeologists believe first settled in the region -- ten centuries before the lumbermen came. The tundra-like environment left by the last Ice Age finally yielded to dense forest in northern Maine about 10,000 years ago. Though a few families of Paleoindians may have traveled through the Allagash region at that time, the archaeological record shows a larger population during the Archaic period (10,000 to 4,000 years ago). The people of this era were generally nomadic, using nets for fishing and stone or wood tools. Most plentiful among the artifacts discovered from this period are stone axes and gouges for woodworking. Between 4,000 and 3,500 years ago these types of tools became less common, suggesting a shift from dugout canoes to a birch bark type. This view is also supported by a shift in the frequency of sites to drainage areas where heavier dugouts would not have been useful.

The Ceramic Period (3,000 to 500 years ago) is named for the emergence of the use of pottery. Though not very durable at this point, pottery enabled cooking directly on the fire, rather than the labor-intensive method of heating stones and placing them into a bark or wooden container. Although the Allagash region is not conducive to the long life of ceramic artifacts, archaeologists have found pottery here at least 2,000 years old.

According to Dr. Art Spiess of the Maine Historic Preservation Commission, “For most of prehistory, Maine’s Native American population supported itself by hunting, fishing, and gathering in band organized societies without complex political organization…Maine Native Americans always have been relatively mobile in lifestyle and lived in relatively small groups.” The archaeological record seems to indicate that traditional Native American's began to move away from the Allagash region early in the 1800s.

Many of the early settlers recalled Indians paddling the rivers and befriending the whites wintering in the vicinity. The first settlers learned a great deal about the area, its natural resources and survival skills from them.

The meaning of the name Allagash has several interpretations. Author and naturalist Henry David Thoreau explored the upper reaches of the Allagash River in the 1800's. His guide, Polis, translated Allagash as "hemlock bark". William Willis, an Algonquin scholar, cites the name meaning "bark camp" from a hunting camp located at Allagash Lake. Another scholar, Lucius Hubbard, thought the name was a contraction from Allegaskwigam'ook or "bark cabin lake".

Most of the early settlers were of Scotch-Irish descent. Some were decendents of loyalists who were displaced after the Revolutionary War and others were immigrants searching for a place to call home.

The first white settlers began moving in to the area in the early 1800’s. The need for pine for shipbuilding brought lumber barons and opportunists. Lumber companies and lumberjacks were sent to Northern Maine to harvest the pine. Naturally the workers brought their families with them. The lure of having their own land was a huge incentive for people to inhabit such a vast, untamed wilderness. Numerous homesteads were established along the Allagash River, St. John River and the Little Black River.
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 17, 2018 - 10:18am PT

Allagash Wilderness Water: Geography
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Canoeing Maine's Allagash Wilderness Waterway
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perswig

climber
Aug 17, 2018 - 04:53pm PT
Skiing in the Camden Hills,man...

Like our ice, skiing smack-dab against the ocean is optimism epitomized. The Camden Snow ("Ice") Bowl is actually a running venture and has some pretty good years for a tiny bump (a special place for many locals much like Titcomb in Farmington), but in margins around it and off the backside, and in some of the tiny passets of Camden Hills SP there is to be had some brief but entertaining skinny skis fun.

Skywalker, almost any trip on the Dead and some parts of the Kennebec can be 'sporty' to say the least, although difficulty and likelihood of walking the boat varies greatly with the season. Many more rafts on parts of those waterways than canoes.
My favorite trip is probably the upper 1/2 of the Allagash WW, Umsaskis to the St. John; one trip in early October between moose seasons I did 4 days seeing only the ranger at Dickey (or maybe Little Black) closing for the year, since the river was starting to ice up.

There was a general store at some intersection (the only one) and you could buy anything from rice to shot guns and bear traps.
You know, this doesn't narrow it down much...

The Hockings know what's what.

Dale

skywalker1

Trad climber
co
Aug 17, 2018 - 05:07pm PT
Yeah I was only up there for a weekend (whitewater kayaking). But it at least gave me a taste. One I will never forget, but I may not have given that store a proper description. :-) The canoe shot looks incredible!

Cheers!

S....
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Aug 17, 2018 - 05:14pm PT
On the other hand, two good married-friends of mine, who were originally from the upper midwest, moved to Maine back in 1986, after living in SLC for about 10 years. They based their choice of Maine on demographics, & a good job offer for Jim from LL Bean.

I lost track of them for years, but with the help of Facebook, a few years back, we re-established our friendship.

This summer they sold their property in Maine, stored some goods at the family house in Wisconsin, & made a road-trip west to see their son in Montana, their daugher in Colorado, & along the way spent a couple days with us.

They are trying to decide where to move to now.

When I asked them about leaving Maine after all these years, Jim reluctantly admitted they never made many friends & they hated the climate. Jim is one of the friendliest & most out-going people I've ever met.
perswig

climber
Aug 18, 2018 - 02:19pm PT
Like SierraLedgeRat and WVa, I wasn't born in Maine but I got here as fast as I could; moved from VT for my second real job after graduation and just passed the mark that over half my life has been lived here.

My sole prior exposure had been as a kid of 11 or 12, when I got recruited by a few friends whose Scout troop needed to fill a roster for a trip from PA to the now-defunct Matagamon High Adventure camp. Nearly two weeks of linking streams, ponds, and lakes; a trip up over Katahdin's Knife Edge; and a bout of giardiasis apparently left its mark.

There are many, but two of my favorite bookstores are Twice Sold Tales in Farmington and Stone Soup in Camden. The former is a large open space with impossibly-high ceilings and some museum-quality literature and print items; the latter is a garret-type setup with two tiny rooms with full shelving floor-to-ceiling, knee-high stacks on the perimeter and shoulder-high in the center; the proprietor sits behind a short half-wall of books and makes change from an envelope between reading the paper and listening to the BBC. There may be a phone, although I've never seen one; I don't think there's a register or computer. Both have an on-line presence, though, if you're looking.

To add to Marlow's two selections:



The top left is sort of an 80pg tourism brochure by the Bangor and Aroostook Railroad to bring outdoorsmen, hunters, and sports to northern Maine with beautiful photos and articles, circa late 1940s?
The bottom two are bookends, a 100yr spread of publications from the Maine Forestry Department, now the Maine Forest Service. I probably need to take care of the 1908 book, now that I think about it...



Dale

wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Aug 18, 2018 - 06:50pm PT
After considerable scouting forays up to Kathadin, I realized there was a ton of things to do in Maine.
Then I went to Bangor and drove down the coast to Portland....man, I swore to get back.

I envisioned a trip to Kathadin to ski,7 went and I could not make it. They had a BC permit and a pair of snow machines ready to take them into Baxter.

A good distance in.

They arrived and immediately started climbing on skis/skins. A friend Andy steams right up and ascended knifes edge ,only to be literally blown off at the beginning of the edge by high winds and a thousand foot slide into trees.

He broke his leg and it took the other 6 a couple of days to get him to a hospital.

A few of them came back and the next weekend ,I took them up Rumfords Whitecap, Waterville Valley ,Sunday River.

Then it was warming up near the coast and we did some of the finest spring corn skiing ever for me ,at Camden Hills SP,yo yoing all day in the sun.

Man.

Then some time in Camden and Portland.

Still some things left, never climbed or paddled over there.

Yeah,Maine....
MH2

Boulder climber
Andy Cairns
Aug 18, 2018 - 07:42pm PT
Wonderful to see. Our family has strong connections to Maine. My mother grew up there and met my father there, and our family vacationed there, visiting Grandma in Milbridge.

My mother's brother John Maines worked for a logging company.

Cousin Doug on left and uncle John Maines in pink on right:




Grandma's house in Milbridge was old, some of it over 200 years. My Mom attached this poem to a photo of the place:




A book she loved was Country of the Pointed Firs.



I've climbed there some, at Katahdin and by the sea.


I don't know where this is:




I think this is at the Milbridge house:


perswig

climber
Aug 19, 2018 - 07:06pm PT

I've climbed there some, at Katahdin and by the sea.


I don't know where this..

Photo perspective is screwing me up.
Two guesses would be above the pond atop Tumbledown in Mt. Blue State Park, or maybe Chimney Pond from the Dudley?

Dale


wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Aug 20, 2018 - 07:30am PT
Wherever that is,it looks great!

Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 20, 2018 - 07:54am PT


Allagash Historical Society: https://www.allagash.info/historical-society/

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