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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 10, 2018 - 11:06am PT
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/10/us/men-kill-bear-moms-cubs-trnd/index.html
Special place in hell for these guys, it was all captured on a camera monitoring the den
A father and son are accused of slaughtering a female black bear and her two cubs as they rested in their den in April.
Andrew Renner, 41, and Owen Renner, 18, of Palmer, Alaska face several felony and misdemeanor charges related to illegal hunting. It is against the law to shoot a black bear with cubs in Alaska.
Alaska Wildlife Troopers, which announced the charges on Monday, said the act was caught on a motion-activated camera set up inside the den to monitor the bears as part of a study being conducted by the US Forest Service and the Alaska Department of Fish and Game. The camera produced both video and audio of the encounter.
"In this case numerous crimes, including felonies, are believed to have been committed," trooper Col. Steve Smith said. Smith said the truck and boat used to transport the Renners to and from the bears' den have been seized.
The father and son were out skiing together on April 14 when they approached the inhabited den, troopers said in a statement.
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cron
Trad climber
Dover
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Aug 10, 2018 - 11:15am PT
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You left out the best part:
"They'll never be able to link it to us," Owen Renner said, according to the court documents.
Two days later, the men were captured on video returning to the den to pick up shells casings and dispose of the bear cubs, troopers said.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 10, 2018 - 11:21am PT
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Bonus charges of evidence tampering
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Aug 10, 2018 - 12:13pm PT
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Wonder exactly what their motive was, other than they're just malicious A-holes.
Doesn't seem all that different to me than how some trophy hunting is done, where you pay big bucks for someone to pen or tie up the animal and you get to "hunt" it.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Aug 10, 2018 - 12:36pm PT
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Yep... if a "truck and boat" were used to access the den it sure doesn't seem like he could even claim the bears had been a nuisance or danger....
Good to see dirtbags get caught from time to time. This time a dirtbag AND his offspring.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Aug 10, 2018 - 01:07pm PT
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Can’t wait to see the sentence. 🙄
They should get 5 years hard, no parole.
Confiscation of vehicles and weapons like druggies.
Never allowed to own weapons or get a hunting license.
$100,000 fine
And sterilization.
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cavemonkey
Ice climber
ak
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Aug 10, 2018 - 01:16pm PT
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Kinda embarrassing that those inbred rednecks are from my town :(
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i'm gumby dammit
Sport climber
da ow
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Aug 10, 2018 - 01:19pm PT
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I hope this means the Alaska Wildlife Troopers have some new skis to use or sell as well.
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couchmaster
climber
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Aug 10, 2018 - 01:19pm PT
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This stuff must come off a "daily butthurt for SJW" web site.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Aug 10, 2018 - 01:21pm PT
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How depraved do you have to be to do that? Only humans are that selfish and cruel.
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Aug 10, 2018 - 02:34pm PT
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Yeah, pretty silly, right couchmaster?
Only CNN reading ecofreaks would give a crap.
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hooblie
climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
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Aug 10, 2018 - 02:43pm PT
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gotta love the "best stewards of the resource" assertion
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phylp
Trad climber
Upland, CA
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Aug 10, 2018 - 03:05pm PT
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This is mind-boggling. WTF?
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Aug 10, 2018 - 04:19pm PT
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Like Phyl said! ^^^^^
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Aug 10, 2018 - 04:37pm PT
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Social justice warrior
(commonly abbreviated SJW) is a pejorative term for an individual who promotes socially progressive views, including feminism, civil rights, and multiculturalism, wiki
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Bale
Mountain climber
UT
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Aug 10, 2018 - 04:47pm PT
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Dogs, doughnuts, and dens. Bear hunters are real “sportsmen”.
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10b4me
Social climber
Lida Junction
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Aug 10, 2018 - 09:45pm PT
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Can’t wait to see the sentence. 🙄
They should get 5 years hard, no parole.
Confiscation of vehicles and weapons like druggies.
Never allowed to own weapons or get a hunting license.
$100,000 fine
And sterilization. already pardoned by trump.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 10, 2018 - 09:57pm PT
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haha, you betcha they deserve a pardon cuz they can see Wasilla from their house.
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MikeL
Social climber
Southern Arizona
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Aug 11, 2018 - 08:06am PT
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StahlBro: How depraved do you have to be to do that? Only humans are that selfish and cruel.
+1
And fortunately, aware enough to do something about that kind of behavior.
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Aug 11, 2018 - 08:36am PT
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The other thing I find troubling about this story is that this stupid a$$ father got his 18 yr. old son involved in this sad affair. The son could be a real chip off the a-hole block, or he could be one of those poor kids (and we all know at least one) who was failed by his parents and never shown the right way. 18 yrs. old and looking at felony charges because of his POS dad. Sad all around.
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Larry Nelson
Social climber
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Aug 11, 2018 - 08:57am PT
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Cavemonkey,
Do you know those inbred toothless rednecks?
They're probably adept at cooking meth also.
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cavemonkey
Ice climber
ak
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Aug 11, 2018 - 09:41am PT
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Don't know 'em Larry, but sadly know the type. Personally, Killing something that you're not going to eat, or isn't a safety hazard, is a sign of mental illness.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Aug 11, 2018 - 10:28am PT
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Father & son killing a beer with cub's fans.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Aug 11, 2018 - 10:33am PT
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Alaska is really just a cold Arkansas or Bama. When I lived between Wasilla and Palmer I got to know the only black man for quite a ways. He had a towing service and he was a real gentleman. Some redneck murdered him. Alaska lost its appeal for me.
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10b4me
Social climber
Lida Junction
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Aug 11, 2018 - 02:23pm PT
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Aug 11, 2018 - 10:33am PT
Alaska is really just a cold Arkansas or Bama. When I lived between Wasilla and Palmer I got to know the only black man for quite a ways. He had a towing service and he was a real gentleman. Some redneck murdered him. Alaska lost its appeal for me.
When they were building the pipeline, a lot of those workers were inbreds from Texas, and Oklahoma. These folks weren't liked by people who had been there awhile. The saying was "happiness is a Texan heading south with an okie under each arm".
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Aug 11, 2018 - 02:53pm PT
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I worked at Prudhoe Bay and met some very nice Texans. I especially appreciated them at Thanksgiving when those good ol’ boys couldn’t get enough turkey which meant more King Crab for the rest of us! 😜
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Aug 11, 2018 - 02:57pm PT
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When they lock up these dipschitz they shouldn't feed them until they've eaten the whole bear.
Good thing the camera caught them.
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Bale
Mountain climber
UT
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Aug 11, 2018 - 03:02pm PT
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I was made aware of the finer points of bear baiting by my uncles. They hang 300 pounds of stale doughnuts from a tree, then put an arrow in the back of the bear that is irresistibly drawn to the smorgasbord, having first let many lesser, non-trophy bears go through and get their fill (see habituation). I thought to myself, “why don’t these chickensh#t cowards just shoot them while they’re still in the den? That’s the next logical step, right?” Enter this father and son dream team from Alaska.
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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Jan 26, 2019 - 08:37am PT
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A little bit of justice.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/26/us/andrew-owen-renner-alaska.html
In addition to setting the three-month jail sentence, an Alaska District Court judge fined Andrew Renner $9,000 and ordered that he must forfeit his boat, pickup truck, guns, iPhones and skis, prosecutors said. Owen Renner’s hunting license will be suspended for two years.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jan 26, 2019 - 09:25am PT
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His hunting license is only suspended for two years? That’s ‘justice’?
Seems like the monetary punishments are harsher but law enforcement seems more intent
on confiscation to pad their accounts these days than justice.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jan 26, 2019 - 09:31am PT
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Barely a start.....
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 26, 2019 - 11:34am PT
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Give up the guns? oh no, not the guns!
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Jan 26, 2019 - 12:08pm PT
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How’s that second amendment worded?
Something about Arms and bears.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Jan 26, 2019 - 07:53pm PT
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Two years? Wtf?
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Jan 26, 2019 - 09:38pm PT
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Owen is the 18 yr. old son. I suspect the judge didn't want to punish him as much as reprimand him and give him some time off to ponder his mistake.
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canyoncat
Social climber
SoCal
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Jan 26, 2019 - 09:44pm PT
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If only we followed the right to arm bears, this would have been an entirely different thread.
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