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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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May 23, 2018 - 09:50pm PT
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Is this what’s known as a thread ‘going off the cables’?
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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May 23, 2018 - 09:53pm PT
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Cable drift
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10b4me
Social climber
Lida Junction
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May 23, 2018 - 10:00pm PT
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The cave is not a safe place. It is the worst place.
exactly
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Lennox
climber
in the land of the blind
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May 23, 2018 - 10:21pm PT
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spark gap
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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May 23, 2018 - 11:30pm PT
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Yeah I guess the cave rocks are a high point so the lightning would strike their first. Maybe head west towards snake dike to lower ground.
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Don Lauria
Trad climber
Bishop, CA
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May 23, 2018 - 11:39pm PT
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Heather is correct. Sorry about the drift, Donini.
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CarolKlein
Ice climber
Chamonix
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May 24, 2018 - 06:47am PT
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Trying to think of how lightning has done anything positive for society
There was that one scene in Back to the Future, but I doubt that happens much in real life.
Very sad death. Hope he died doing what he loved.
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phylp
Trad climber
Upland, CA
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May 24, 2018 - 06:59am PT
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Don Lauria, that was a good story!
I’ve never done the snake dike route or the cables as in general I try to avoid hordes of people. But it may be a good plan for a 75th birthday celebration!
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ECF
Big Wall climber
Ridgway CO
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May 24, 2018 - 07:06am PT
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You should be ashamed of yourselves.
Someone died and you think that’s an opportunity to spew political opinion.
I’m younger than most of you, but you are acting like children.
The lack of respect is sickening.
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dh
climber
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May 24, 2018 - 08:41am PT
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I'm sorry to hear this news. Have been down those cables a bunch. Last summer was the first time I have been up. Took the kids (12, 10, 6). Six year old was tethered to me with some cord, the rest were on their own. It was all fine, but MAN all I could think about was how bad it would be in the rain. I am so glad that I have had clear skies every time on Half Dome. I know that it is the hike of a lifetime for many people (justifiably so) and it is sad to hear that it ended tragically for this individual and his/her friends and family.
Stay safe,
Dave.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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May 24, 2018 - 10:30am PT
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I went down the cables once after soloing Snake Dike, and found it just as easy to walk down to the side of the cables since it was such a low angle.
The Tourons were perplexed at my sticky shoes, but it wasn't the shoes, it was just knowing that you can walk down low angle friction if you stay up right
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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May 24, 2018 - 10:47am PT
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Sorry to hear about another lost soul on HD. It definitely requires one's attention and physical competence and basic conditioning (when considered in the context of the approach and descent hike).
I did Angel's Landing with my kids a few years ago (104 degrees that day)- there was nothing from a safety perspective that jumped out at me as a "yer gunna die" moment. I recall spotting them a time or two, but a tame good adventure.
I haven't been on the HD cables with my kids, but that is definitely a step up in risk and physical demand in my book. I've been up the cables once and down them 3-4 times.
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paul roehl
Boulder climber
california
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May 24, 2018 - 11:19am PT
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Around forty years ago this memorial day weekend came down the cables (they were still down). Nobody around, I mean nobody except two guys who'd just finished the NF. It snowed hard. White out on trails already covered in snow. We were headed up to Tenaya ended up lost for two days and eventually down in T. canyon below Cloud's Rest. Good times.
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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May 24, 2018 - 03:48pm PT
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I am sorry to hear of anyone who dies climbing or in climbing-related activities, and sorry if my posts were taken the wrong way. As someone who has been seriously injured in a climbing accident (yes, I was off route), I'd like to think my empathy level is fairly high. The purpose of my first post was to explain that improving the cables would Italic Textprobably not be admissible as evidence of negligence, which was a point that another poster had made.
I do think it's at least slightly useful that members of society have a general understanding of legal concepts. And if people think that whenever there's an accident that the entity in charge of the premises can't improve the situation or else it will get hammered for negligence, that's not usually right.
But you have to use a lot of weasel words when discussing legal rules and concepts--they're not like the laws of science that are generally absolute and don't care what we think of them. Legal rules require application, and they aren't always applied perfectly for whatever reason, and there can be lots of exceptions. I perhaps slightly injected politics solely as an example and to illustrate that point, but that was very much an aside. Then, I got attacked by Fat Dad (as per usual) and things went downhill from there.
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Texplorer
Trad climber
Sacramento
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May 24, 2018 - 06:01pm PT
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Have a beta update on the SuperTopo for RNWF. There were no tourists on top on 5-17-2018.
Actually eerie to top out and see no one on the summit. Eventually one guy strolled up. We also had the cables all to ourselves. Guess it was a weekday and rain was forecast but kinda cool. Rain was predicted but nothing more than a random drop fell as far as I could tell that day and all weekend.
Also, I sure did descend outside the cables. Much stickier out there.
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CarolKlein
Ice climber
Chamonix
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May 24, 2018 - 07:14pm PT
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^^^ Half Dome Man in da posted thread video says the beams get nicked for firewood.
Your bigger beam suggestion sounds good cause, being harder to carry than the current offerings, they would be a disincentive-to shivering thieves.
Maybe ASCA should make it a priority. Chouinard could spot a few bucks to get you to do it. He is said to live frugal, so he’d have a little lying around.
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Matt Sarad
climber
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May 24, 2018 - 08:27pm PT
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First time up I took a six pack of Heineken. Drank one bottle and gave the rest away.
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Don Paul
Social climber
Denver CO
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May 25, 2018 - 07:23am PT
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Xcon that is a great idea. It seems safer to actually be on the outside. Or spray some kind of glue-rock coating on the polished areas, like the high traffic trails in the front range of Colorado.
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clifff
Mountain climber
golden, rollin hills of California
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May 25, 2018 - 08:11am PT
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They should replace the steel cable with rubber coated rope to reduce danger from lightning + it would provide a much better grip.
Have a sign advising of the dangers of afternoon thunder storms and that it's much more secure to back down with both hands on the rope (or cable) when conditions are slippery.
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