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apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 25, 2018 - 06:18pm PT
“What an ingrate I would be to curse the fate that concludes the blessed life I’ve led. I prefer to give thanks for those blessings, and my love to the people who blessed me with theirs. The bell tolls for me. I knew it would. So I tried, as best I could, to stay a ‘part of the main.‘ I hope those who mourn my passing, and even those who don’t, will celebrate as I celebrate a happy life lived in imperfect service to a country made of ideals, whose continued service is the hope of the world. And I wish all of you great adventures, good company, and lives as lucky as mine.”

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/08/25/john-mccain-farewell-statement-757659
mynameismud

climber
backseat
Aug 25, 2018 - 07:40pm PT
Rest in Peace.
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Aug 25, 2018 - 08:08pm PT
It appears, the McCain – Trump feud is close to an end.

But will Trump dance on McCain's grave?

That’s too bad, since McCain was one of the very-few Republicans in Congress with the spine to oppose & criticize Trump.

From The Washington Post

It got off to a bad start, and President Trump’s venomous relationship with Sen. John McCain probably won’t end well either.
The president was reportedly disinvited to McCain’s funeral months ago, after McCain’s battle with brain cancer took a turn for the worse, and now the veteran Arizona Republican senator has decided to discontinue medical treatment.

Throughout McCain’s illness, Trump has continued to publicly snub him — including a recent appearance in which the president declined to say McCain’s name when signing a bill that was named for him. As of late Friday, Trump had said nothing about McCain’s medical decision.

Their increasingly combative relationship has served as a metaphor of sorts for the Republican Party: the former Vietnam POW and “proud conservative” who fell short to Barack Obama in his run for president in 2008 versus the loud draft dodger who rapidly seized control of the GOP and White House eight years later.

McCain rarely disguised his distaste for Trump as the real estate developer ran for president on a platform that included attacks on immigrants and U.S. allies. In July 2015, after then-candidate Trump rallied an estimated 15,000 in Phoenix and claimed to represent a “silent majority,” McCain said Trump had “fired up the crazies” in his state. The battle was on.

By the end of that month, Trump had disparaged McCain’s Vietnam War service, saying McCain was “not a war hero” despite spending more than five years as a POW and enduring torture.

“He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured,” Trump said during a forum in Ames, Iowa.

Trump refused to apologize at the time, despite criticism from nearly every corner, and has never retracted the statement. He has occasionally told people that he does not regret the comment.

During occasional Oval Office conversations about McCain’s health or status in the Senate, Trump would usually say nothing, current and former officials said. He grew angry regularly that McCain was portrayed as the “good guy” in the news media and he as the “bad guy,” according to a former senior administration official who spoke to Trump about McCain.

In accepting the Freedom Medal at the National Constitutional Center in October, McCain condemned “half-baked, spurious nationalism cooked up by people who would rather find scapegoats than solve problems,” a clear dig at Trump.

Not long afterward, McCain appeared to take a shot at Trump for avoiding the draft during the Vietnam War.

“One aspect of the (Vietnam) conflict by the way that I will never ever countenance is that we drafted the lowest income level of America and the highest income level found a doctor that would say that they had a bone spur,” McCain said during an interview with CSPAN.

McCain did not mention Trump by name, but his meaning appeared clear. Trump received five wartime deferments, including one in which a doctor diagnosed him with bone spurs.

Finally in July, McCain pilloried Trump for his chummy performance alongside Russian President Vladi¬mir Putin at a news conference in Helsinki, calling it “one of the most disgraceful performances by an American president in memory.”

“The damage inflicted by President Trump’s naivete, egotism, false equivalence, and sympathy for autocrats is difficult to calculate,” McCain said. “No prior president has ever abased himself more abjectly before a tyrant.”

More here:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/bad-blood-between-mccain-and-trump-lingers-even-as-the-arizona-republican-nears-the-end/ar-BBMprjT?li=BBnb7Kz
zBrown

Ice climber
Aug 25, 2018 - 09:28pm PT

Sierra Ledge Rat

Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
Aug 26, 2018 - 04:10am PT
An a former naval aviator myself, I can relate to Senator McCain's life experiences. Flying combat jets from aircraft carriers is certainly not a life for pussies. I remember that I was issued a .38 revolver in case I was ever shot down over enemy territory, but I carried my own Beretta 9mm semi-auto with 14 jacketed rounds, and an extra clip. McCain survived the U.S.S. Forrestal conflagration, and later went through the nightmare of punching out over enemy territory. Ejecting at 500 m.p.h. tears up your body something fierce.

It's unfortunate that he was republican, and that tempers my sympathy and respect for him. All I can think of is that his passing opens up a senate seat and the possibility of getting someone besides a repugnican in that seat.

Too bad the repugnicans have established an atmosphere that makes me feel this way.
:(
Sierra Ledge Rat

Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
Aug 26, 2018 - 04:31am PT
I find it incredulous that military pilots talk about the dangers they face, with little acknowledgement given to the danger they pose to civis
We may not talk about, but it's a terror that we faced daily. You can't imagine the responsibility that you carry on your shoulders when you have that much destructive power at your fingertips. It's a very heavy load, knowing how easy it is to kill the wrong people.

They always say "Be careful for what you wish for." When I got out of flight school and got my first real combat load, suddenly I was terrified by the responsibility. "What the f*#k did I get myself into?" Don't f*#k it up, Bad Dog!
Sierra Ledge Rat

Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
Aug 26, 2018 - 04:42am PT
Frankly, we were more worried about hitting friendlies than we were about civilians. Does that make me a bad person?
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 26, 2018 - 07:37am PT
Thank you for your service, SLR.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Aug 26, 2018 - 08:30am PT
Sierra Rat....Doesn't make you a bad person...What aircraft were you flying...? This retired air force colonel / friend commented that navy aircraft carrier pilots had 2 choices...Land on the carrier or in the ocean...
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Aug 26, 2018 - 09:52am PT
Bingo field?

I know a retired Marine bird colonel (F-4's, F-18's) whose son is a mega-yacht cap'n.
About 12 years ago the son had to take one from the Right Coast to the Far
East and the owner said it was cool if mom and pop came along (the owner
couldn't make the trip). They whooped it up through the Med, down the Red
Sea, and pulled into Aden for a fill-up. The local harbormaster, aka extortionist,
wanted the son's first born plus a large herd of goats for a night's moorage
so they said seeya and headed east.

A few hours east of Aden, not Eden, they pulled into a nice deserted bay. As they were about
to drop anchor a couple of Toyota pickups appeared on the beach. After some mutual waves
the colonel saw their AK’s and his son decided discretion lay offshore. As they were leaving
the bay they saw another Toyota appear with a Zodiac. They clearly weren’t the local Welcome Wagon.

The mega-yacht had good legs. There was a good swell running as well as a strong sundowner
blowing so the yahoos weren't making great speed, but they were gaining. The good guys
had some pretty good heat aboard, as in an M-16, but it appeared they would eventually get caught.

The cap'n dialed up the owner on the satphone.

"Mr Ambassador, we're being pursued by a Zodiac with AK-47’s. Do we have any friends nearby?"

"John, I'll call you back."

Good to his word he came back in a few:

"John, the Vinson's CAP is on their way. ETA about 20 minutes. Can you hold them off?"

The colonel was a little miffed to hear this as he was rather looking forward to re-qualifying
with the M-16. Once a gyrene always a gyrene. Yeah, if you're a US Ambassador you get serious percs.

The cavalry's arrival at Mach A Lot was only lacking a good Wagnerian soundtrack.
With good coordinates from the yacht the Super Hornets had poured on the coal. Apparently
they had also been told they could swim to the yacht if the tankers didn’t reach them in time.
They arrived rather unannounced, so to speak. With the good coordinates they had been able
to make a nice long descent which culminated with a pass at about 100’ - their sonic booms
about blew the towelheads out of the water. By the time the Hornets did a U-turn to bleed off
speed and arm the guns the Zodiac was in full flight, unfortunately. I have no idea how they
were able to restrain themselves. I mean, who was gonna tell?
Sierra Ledge Rat

Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
Aug 26, 2018 - 12:25pm PT
^^^
U.S. Navy to the rescue!

I did a tour in the Persian Gulf, and spent several months in that part of the world. We called it "Gonzo Station." We got two beer days, if that tells you how long, and we were at battle stations all the friggin' time. For fun, I got to go on a week-long safari in Kenya, flew all over Somalia and Oman, patrolled off the coast of Iran, and spent a week on the ground in Pakistan, dressed like a local. (I had hoped to run some guns from Islamabad back to the USA, but the State Department spoiled my plans when I was in a Karachi; that's another story.) I ran a marathon on the flight deck while the carrier transited the ditch (Suez Canal).

Bingo field is last-ditch divert field. You always have a calculated bingo fuel in your head; that's the fuel level that makes you say adios amigos! and head directly to the divert field. Bingo fuel depends on the distance to the divert field. Hopefully you can hit the tanker and get some more passes at the deck before the air boss radios in his disgusted voice, "Your signal is bingo."
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Aug 26, 2018 - 12:32pm PT
SLR, ‘Bingo Field?’ was the title of the story, not a question. 😉
Sierra Ledge Rat

Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
Aug 26, 2018 - 12:35pm PT
Sorry, I read it as a question. I deleted a post above that was about bingo fields and thought you were asking about it.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Aug 26, 2018 - 12:43pm PT
No offense taken. I did bingo a tank once. 🙄
Don Paul

Social climber
Washington DC
Aug 26, 2018 - 12:47pm PT
Death is too good for him - should have been humiliated in a war crimes tribunal first.

A History of John McCain’s Calls for War

John McCain's greatest/bloodiest hits.
WBraun

climber
Aug 26, 2018 - 01:10pm PT
John McCain was the father of ISIS.

The biggest obstructionist against the missing POW's in Vietnam.

Biggest aszhole toward veterans.

And you fools respect this murdering creep ....
Sierra Ledge Rat

Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
Aug 26, 2018 - 01:33pm PT
zBrown

Ice climber
Aug 26, 2018 - 02:29pm PT
Strange that Ted Kennedy and John McCain both died on August 25. Even weirder that my friend Joe, an enterprising drug entrepeneur, died from the same malady. I cannot recall whether it was also August 25.

Man, I just checked, it was September 3, for Joe.




WBraun

climber
Aug 26, 2018 - 03:54pm PT
Robert L

They are responsible for creating the ISIS proxy to try and overthrow govts for Israel and the US.

Illegal proxy wars ......
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Aug 26, 2018 - 04:58pm PT
SRL Posted a good shot of the other human (questionably) garbage that will hopefully follow close behind McStain.

I'm pretty sure Cheney is Sith.... he might go another 1000 years.
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