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Trad climber
Calgary
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May 10, 2018 - 01:13pm PT
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How are you now John?
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snakefoot
climber
Nor Cal
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May 10, 2018 - 01:52pm PT
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Agree with largo, once the ligaments and other soft tissues of a joint are injured, you're hosed and in for a long recovery. best to break the bone mid shaft...MD
Heal up hans!
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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May 10, 2018 - 05:28pm PT
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I'm doing ok but I had a pilon fracture where the joint blew apart and an open fracture tib that shot through my ankle with such force I ended up with a fist sized hole in my shin that had to be filled with a muscle graph from my thigh. Plus a bunch of nerve damage (about 80% numb in my foot).
So there was a lot of soft tissue damage that Hans didn't (I hope) have. Plus an open fracture.
I learned that the biggest hitch to healing was circulation, which gets badly compromised when bones blow apart - which is WAY different from a simple fracture. About 2 years into recovery I started riding my bike a lot and a year later my leg was much better.
My ankle range of motion is poor so I can't run or jump but I hiked up to higher spire and Yoz falls last year and can ride my bike hard for 50 miles so I'm doing well considering. There is always a low grade ache in the ankle but I've gotten to where I can block it out most of the time. Once every few months something shifts around in there or whatever and I can't walk for a few days then it goes away and I'm back to new normal.
I will admit that for the first two years the chronic pain made me consider cutting that bad boy off. Glad I didn't. But recovery in my case took 4 years.
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Gregory Crouch
Social climber
Walnut Creek, California
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May 11, 2018 - 03:03pm PT
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Phylp—Your card for Hans arrived today. I'll get it over to him ASAP.
I'm sure he'll greatly appreciate it.
Largo—Grim. I knew it had been bad. Not that it had been that bad.
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Jeffery Butterfield
climber
Bar Harbor, Maine
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May 14, 2018 - 07:43pm PT
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It might be a minor blessing that there’s a small delay before Hans’ heel fracture surgery. I know from experience that the post-op reality for that procedure is no picnic; I can’t fathom simultaneously dealing with that kind of pain and the discomfort he must surely already be in from the operations to address his left leg trauma. But then, were talking about Hans Florine here. I wouldn’t have guessed he’d so much as stubbed a toe from the post-accident photos I’ve seen.
Six fragments put Hans in the “severely comminuted calcaneal fracture” club (I’m a member, and like Hans, after an abrupt stop onto a granite ledge). Once he’s home, he’ll want to set up camp on the floor. I discovered it was excruciating to allow my injured foot to drop below my heart for even a few seconds, like when I’d try to get out of bed for a bathroom visit. After the first attempt, we moved the mattress to the floor and I learned to scoot backwards to go anywhere, holding my foot up in the air as I did. Sitting on the floor below the toilet, I’d have to pause to get psyched—like before launching into a scary crux—knowing what kind of pain toll sitting up there was going to extract.
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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May 15, 2018 - 02:10pm PT
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I basically had to keep my leg elevated for a year. Whenever I'd lower it, it turned bright red and throbbed.
Don't know the actual damage to his joint but that's the real issue.
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shipoopoi
Big Wall climber
oakland
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its been a month since hans broke his feet on the nose. two weeks ago he got out of the hospital after getting a bunch of metal put in his feet/legs. he remains positive, is already off the nasty pain meds, but still has a long recovery ahead of him. he continues to couch surf while looking for a more permanent place to stay. its an extra challenge to be doing this in the middle of a divorce(albeit a friendly one. he has two teenage kids, the oldest entering university in the fall. of course he is severely money challenged at this point. his friends have set up a go fund me page to help defray his expenses. If you know hans, or perhaps been inspired by him, then now is a chance to help out one of our tribe in need.
sincereley, Steve Schneider
https://www.gofundme.com/hansflorinemedicalfund
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shipoopoi
Big Wall climber
oakland
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bump for my blonde brother
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Delhi Dog
climber
Good Question...
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What a blessing Hans didn't hurt himself more and he is still with us. Why is it, today, climbing has become such a competitive sport? In general, speed climbing is a very dangerous way to climb. What are we trying to prove with it?
Maybe this event will change the way people think about trying to push and push the standards to a higher level with the potential of a much greater danger factor.
Always count your blessings and be humble before the rock.
-D.Yerian
After the recent events this post came to mind...
Hang in there Hans!
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Seamstress
Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
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I realized that I have been out of touch between all the life milestones. How could I miss this? Healing wishes for Hans. I so enjoyed the celebrity. clImb with you. Recoveries are. not speedy at our ages. But determination still will carry the day.
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simply theresa
climber
Yosemite
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Thanks for posting the Go Fund Me link, Steve. I hadn't heard that there was one until now. Donation made.
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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external fixator bolted to his leg is a sign that whatever ankle injury Hans had was not minor
No doubt. I hear those things do wonders but are extremely painful.
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mountain girl
Trad climber
Berkeley, CA
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Heal fast and well, Hans
Ingrid
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there say,shipoopoi...
thank you so much for the update... and the info, for folks...
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shipoopoi
Big Wall climber
oakland
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bump for the guy who taught caldwell and honhold how to climb fast on the nose. hans' go fund me account is at the top of this page. he just found a house to move into so he is not couch surfing anymore. but he is far from getting back to steady work. he could use our help. steve schneider
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EdBannister
Mountain climber
13,000 feet
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Think of it this way Hans, you know one of the best anesthesiologists in the country!! : ) best wishes for complete healing..
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wayne w
Trad climber
the nw
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Bump for Hans!
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shipoopoi
Big Wall climber
oakland
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Jun 13, 2018 - 09:03am PT
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here's a shout out for dean rosnau's book promotion tour in the bay area. dean will be at rei concord tonight at 7pm to promote his book. i will try to be there as well. dean has generously offered to donate all of his book selling proceeds from this event to hans recovery/go fund me page(above post), so lets turn out and support our fast, blonde, buddy. steve schneider
dean will also being doing a book promo at rei in san carlos on thursday night at 7 pm, so turn out to buy his book, support hans, and listen to some great resuce stories.
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Rick A
climber
Boulder, Colorado
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Jun 13, 2018 - 11:25am PT
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Donated to the fund just now.
Get well Hans!
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