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shipoopoi

Big Wall climber
oakland
Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 15, 2018 - 09:01pm PT
i am currently in the market for a rotary hammer, a cordless makita is the obvious choice for me since i already have 5 or 6 makita tools. i have been looking at the
Makita 18-Volt LXT Lithium-Ion 7/8 in. Cordless SDS-Plus Concrete/Masonry Rotary Hammer Drill of which there are 2 models
XRH03Z
XRH04Z

i need it for my work as an electrician, as well as drilling the odd bolt in granite OUTSIDE of yosemite

any beta?

steve schneider
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Apr 15, 2018 - 09:06pm PT
Either model will drill holes in anything. What you have to think about is the batteries and how long they will power a drill and how long it takes to recharge them.

Buy the version that has metal parts Vs. plastic.
steve s

Trad climber
eldo
Apr 15, 2018 - 09:15pm PT
While technology improvements in batteries and power tools have reduced the need for large voltage batteries, 18v is kinda on the weak side for multiple holes at depth in concrete. Even more so in granite. On the job site how deep and what diameter hole are you commonly drilling into concrete ? Or just make sure you have more than 2 batteries.
JLP

Social climber
The internet
Apr 15, 2018 - 09:54pm PT
IMO, depends what else you have. I have a few hammer drills of increasing aggression and power.

It's nice to have something light that can drill mortar without pulverizing it or something to get a hole near the edge of a piece of stone without chipping it off - then it's also nice to have something you can bust through an 8" wall with.

I have a lot of Makita stuff because of the batteries - all great tools. I prefer each of them over the equivalent Dewalts, for sure.

I'd generally rather swap smaller batteries and have a light tool in my hand. The lithium batteries charge so fast, it's irrelevant.
treez

Trad climber
99827
Apr 15, 2018 - 09:59pm PT
It's all about the Amh of the battery, or in other words, how heavy you want the rig to be.
Majid_S

Mountain climber
Karkoekstan, Former USSR
Apr 15, 2018 - 10:01pm PT
ryobi er-160
treez

Trad climber
99827
Apr 15, 2018 - 10:05pm PT
Makita is high quality for sure. I've personally always had good luck with DeWalt, though.

I currently am running a DeWalt 20v (18v) brushless impact driver, the one before that was the Makita. I don't really notice a difference between the two. The Makita 1.5 Amh batteries sucked bigtime. I'm runnung 2.0's in the DeWalt most of the time, but have a 5.0 that is seriously impressive. They say it's just a matter of how long it lasts, but that's BS. Way more chooch from the get go.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Apr 15, 2018 - 10:16pm PT
I'm an 18v Bosch guy now. The only reason to go heavier on amh/v is if you aren't stancing or have to do a lot of holes for work, especially overhead.

Though if you haven't drilled on lead with the 18v before, try it out first on easy ground. It doesn't have the same 'bounce and engagement' that the older Bosch's do.
JLP

Social climber
The internet
Apr 15, 2018 - 10:32pm PT
The Makita 1.5 Amh batteries sucked bigtime.
I think 2.0 is the smallest now - great size for a small impact driver and will last several hours of near continuous use - but kind of small for a hammer drill - figure at least a 3.0 or 4.0 for such a beast. 5.0 seems nice, I'd like one for something like a sawzall or circular saw - otherwise I have a bunch of 4.0's that do fine. If I were drilling a granite sport pitch, I think I'd probably want 2-3 5.0's fully charged to get a decent length pitch in - just a guesstimate.
treez

Trad climber
99827
Apr 15, 2018 - 11:54pm PT
I was running 14.4 volt DeWalt back in the day and they came out with the cicular saw so I got one. Totally worthless. Barely make it shortways across a 1/2 cdx. Let me down until I chucked it.

Recently I got a Porter Cable sawsall/circsaw kit with 5.0s and they’re amazing like “where have you been all my life”.
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Apr 16, 2018 - 02:52am PT
The 5 ah dewalt batteries are absolutely sick.
shipoopoi

Big Wall climber
oakland
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 16, 2018 - 08:38pm PT
i was hoping somebody actually had experience with these because they are only available online and i hate to buy something that i have not been able to fondle previously. ss
skywalker1

Trad climber
co
Apr 17, 2018 - 12:43am PT
Is it an ergonomics thing? Makita is my go to brand for getting the job done and durability. Some brands fit my hand better or are balanced better. The word fondle stuck out.

S....
shipoopoi

Big Wall climber
oakland
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 17, 2018 - 09:25am PT
it doesn't sound like anybody here actually owns one of these, so i am still wondering whether to go for it or not. i have 4 18v makita batteries in my tool quiver, and just thought this would be a good additioin. ss
Jeremy Ross

Gym climber
Apr 17, 2018 - 09:31am PT
I've not used the Makita, but if you're in the market, I really like the little Milwaukee 12V rotohammer. I think its called an M12 Fuel? Slower in granite than the old annihilators, but much lighter.
JLP

Social climber
The internet
Apr 17, 2018 - 03:59pm PT
Once you have a few of the batteries, it's all downhill until you have the whole collection including the weed whacker.

Lots of vids on youtube reviewing most tools, it can be a rampant consumer tool nerd fest out there, surprised you posted here. With Makita, sometimes you have to find the Euro part number equivalent or just search for Makita hammer drills in general.

I like their recent sub compact line of tools, the black ones, they have a rotary hammer version too, quite a bit smaller and lighter than the models you are looking at. Might not work for someone drilling dowels into concrete all day, but maybe an electrician - it's a pretty unmanly tool, though, guys at work might think you have a small dik.
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Apr 17, 2018 - 04:25pm PT
I do know that at work the new dewalt 20v brushless impact drivers with the 5AH batteries made the Makita 18v units obsolete instantly. I would get an 8in timberlock or 8"X 5/16th" GRK half sunk and totally stuck with the Makita and have to borrow one of the new Dewalts to instantly sink it. There is not even any compareson at all. Sinking 3" x 5/16: GRKs into LVL carrying beam I would literaly get at least 6 screws in with my new Dewalt 20v Max XR with the 5ah battery to every one the boss would get in with the 18v Makita. I have no idea how this translates to the respective rotary hammers other than anything brushless with a 5AH battery is going to kick butt over the smaller batteries.
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Apr 17, 2018 - 04:42pm PT
So a bit of quick research.
Makita sub compact 18v rotary hammer 4.2 lbs No idea how well it works???
Dewalt 20V max brushless 6.2 lbs. assume it works as well as my other 20V max tools which are all very impressive.

My Bosch 36v is about 6.5 lbs

The sub compact Makita would be quite interesting for lead bolting if it is fast and gets you at least 10 holes so you can finish a pitch and get an anchor in..
JLP

Social climber
The internet
Apr 17, 2018 - 04:45pm PT
You're really just comparing tools. Makita presently has a drill driver with the highest torque, even with that wimpy 18V, maybe next month Dewalt will be selling it, maybe Milwaukee the month after. 20V over 18V means pretty much nothing except to marketing and meatheads.

That said, thing I don't like about Dewalt is they obfuscate their performance parameters by either not listing them or by making up their own non-sense metrics - so you really have no idea. Fine company, own lots of their stuff, it won't be junk whatever you get - but might not be the best either.
Batrock

Trad climber
Burbank
Apr 17, 2018 - 06:25pm PT
This is what I have. I get between 12-14 3/8x3 1/2" out of each charge in granite and concrete. Cons is that it's heavy and long. If drilling on lead its a PIA. If rapping it's a non issue. It has way more torque than my Bosch 18v but my Bosch is way better on lead due to it's compact size and light weight.
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