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hooblie
climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
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second post reserved for the fourth?
anticipated return of the lockered man
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
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Whaaaaaaa?
Susan
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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I don’t know about a ‘free’ Locker, but I would spring for a buck fiddy Locker.
Per month that is.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Cosmic must have pushed the red button...?
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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The site just ain't right any more.
And that's wrong.
Which ain't right!
Locker is the fulcrum around which ST revolves.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Absence makes the heart grow fonder. That’s what I told all my girl friends.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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When did he shave his palms...?
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Be on the lookout for avatar HPLovecraft or HPNewton
Not free, but only a buck fitty - unless you're a general
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Jim Clipper
climber
from: forests to tree farms
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locker goes free? what's the rating. I don't want the beta.
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i-b-goB
Social climber
Wise Acres
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U R missed, come out and play!
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Indeed!
FREE LOCKER,
since when Locker ain't free,
ST jest ain't right.
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Illegitimi non carborundum.
Piggus Latimus.
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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ueblay uttbay ugplay
It's what got Locker in trouble the first time.
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nah000
climber
now/here
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^^^^
that last one is pretty much impeccable cosmic... nice work.
yeah free locker and free The Warbler while they’re at it...
neither did anything worthy of banning, that i saw, and both contributed to this place being what it is [was?].
given the ham handed moderation that goes on around here [especially in the last couple of years] i’m left to assume that cmac and co see this place as more of an annoyance than as something with value [although i’m also sure they do see both]. and so instead of attempting to enhance what they have here [by providing more opportunities for viewer feedback (even just view counts or maybe an upvote/downvote) or user directed interface options (the ability to un/subscribe to particular threads or users)] or even just not touching anything and leaving it as it is, there is a conceptually flawed attempt to neuter this place into being more of their vision of “what it should be” by randomly deleting threads and users that are generating conversation that they don’t “like”...
i believe this place has been at times nothing short of remarkable... unfortunately, from my perspective, the very thing that has made it remarkable and a counterpoint to the boring structure of the “mountain projects” of the world, is exactly what cmac and co are expediting the elimination of...
and so this board seems to be on a downward trend as the seemingly relatively non-tech nature of those running this board let it fall into a neglected decades old interface... which would even be fine if it was just left alone.
oh well, i don’t have the time or money right now to throw into doing anything about this, so most of this is just useless talk... and this board is not quite dead yet so while i plan on putting more of my energy into putting out content on other platforms, precisely because of how mismanaged, from my perspective, that this board has become... i won’t be leaving entirely just yet.
and that’s also because the above criticism is not intended to be entirely negative as i do appreciate what cmac and co have created around here. and so in the [unlikely?] chance that this is read by someone who runs this board i hope this is simply seen as feedback from someone who has at times contributed to this place but who is now intending to contribute less due to the combination of ad hoc/unexplained moderation and now decades old neglected user interface that is currently in existence here...
and so at the same time, i would hope that the above is seen as coming from someone who recognizes that there is intrinsic difficulty in herding a bunch of cats... and so there is a lot of genuine appreciation for a lot of the successful decisions and judgement calls that have been made by cmac and co along the way, that is underpinning the above criticism.
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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I got a free locker when I donated to the Access Fund.
FWIW, moderation around here has always been mysterious and never explained by the mgmt, think of it as an objective hazard.
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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I believe Locker said, when he came back last time, that he was asked to promise not to "do that sort of thing" in the future. Or else.
Unlike the US with Assaad, when Locker crossed the red line, he got nuked.
But, also like Christ, he will rise again, I am sure. Just a little late for Easter.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Some men you just can't reach.
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Locker is the twisted soul of this place.
He re-souled my Troll shoes.
For that I'm grateful.
This place needs him.
I won't buy any ST products until he's back.
You want to ban someone?
Ban Werner
Name calling
Intolerant
Religious fundamenemtalist
No fun gross materialist
Magic carpet mentalist
Werner.
Jk. You ban Werner and I'm never buying 5.tennies again.
Does that pencil?
Never mind
F*#k Ron Anderson
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Everyone is offended by something
Some are offended by everything
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zBrown
Ice climber
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locker
climber
Jan 1, 2018 - 03:32pm PT
"I think there are a lot better ways of describing what is intended here without resorting to words that make it seem more than it is."...
April 2 was National Ferret Day
Do they even climb?
Why hell yes, they do. Notice - no TR.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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As I type this, Locker's account is simply deactivated.
And likewise, if you search his posts, for just a little while longer you may see this:
But make no mistake about it: CMAC and RJ (or just the moderators, whomever they may be) have suspended his account, yes, but according to Locker's specific request, if the moderators honor it, everything in that second screenshot will soon disappear.
I've been exchanging e-mails with Locker and he told me unequivocally that he wants everything he's contributed to the Taco stripped out, deleted. Hasta la Vista baby!
IIRC, this is what happened with Cosgrove: it wasn't the moderators, it was Scott himself who asked for all of his posts to be deleted.
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Now, concerning the gripes and suggestions department:
Nah000, remember this thread, the one in question were locker posted up the "modern art" which got the thread canned?
The moderators started not by deleting Warbler's flip the bird photograph, but they stripped out all of his posts from that thread.
I found this disappointing, as did Yos Guns, who was having what I would call a fruitful conversation with Warbler. She expressed her disappointment that their conversation was reduced to little more than a monologue from her.
And I'm estimating a half dozen other people expressed consternation as well, explaining that Warbler had been, aside from the offending photograph, completely civil throughout his comportment on that thread.
At that point I tried to save the thread to the way back machine, and neglected to archive a copy for myself in PDF. I didn't realize that the way back machine needed the thread to be saved in show all mode to capture the entire thing. So we only see the first page. Regardless, without Warbler's post, it was neutered anyhow.
You and I, Nah000, also enjoyed what I considered to be a pretty meaningful exchange. And I put in a bit of effort, voice dictating and transcribing a passage from a book, and that's just not right for all that stuff to be deleted.
Which is what happened to the thread after Locker made his "modern art" posts.
Which were, BTW, clearly pushing the envelope, as they were simplistic line drawings of the female form with vaginal representations made out of what appeared to be rose petals.
Then, the entire thread was deleted. And not just the first post. Were that the case, I could still search the thread, investigate a couple of the links which Yos Guns placed, and archive what was left of our conversation for my own purposes.
No longer.
I thought about e-mailing RJ to ask if he could repopulate the thread to the Supertopo server without the first post (so that the original thread could be searchable, read, and archived), to include all of Warbler's original posts, but I'm thinking that's maybe a fools errand at this point. (I'm still thinking about it. My guess is the material isn't retrievable)
These guys, the moderators, clearly favor a scorched-earth disciplinary style when individual avatars post things in threads which violate the rules.
I've never understood this. It completely destroys meaningful conversations others have contributed quite a bit of thought and effort toward.
 I could ask why?
Or I could just man up and realize that DMT pretty much has it.
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anita514
Gym climber
Great White North
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So much fail
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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I say a one time amnesty for all the banned. :)
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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You might, Cosmic, and if you read what I wrote, you may come to understand that this whole thread could be deleted for that single post.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Ha ha, thanks for the clarification on the origin of the artwork!
Regardless, it's why Locker got a timeout, no?
At least that's what he tells me.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Whether posted in the past or not, Cosmic, we can only imagine, this time, someone complained?
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Recently?
So why was the thread titled "The Outdoors Profession Is Not a Place for Women" deleted?
Seriously, I've been in communication with Locker and he didn't mention anything concerning what you just described.
[edit] Yes, I'm aware of the history of the blue plug.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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As for the warbler flip off photo I've seen a lot of photos
here on ST with the, FINGER.
I don't think that warrants a ban either. The moderators thought so, Cosmic.
I've been in e-mail communication with Warbler also.
Again, probably because somebody or someone complained.
[edit]
Norton, to your subsequent post, exactly. It's all the excuse they needed, in Warbler's case.
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Jim Clipper
climber
from: forests to tree farms
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If you could go back to the ditch 40 years ago, and record some of the deli babble, would you? You would probably have to wait for it, but there would probably be something there.
No one has probably grown up much. Maybe some things just moved to the intardweb. Deleting posts is cheap, internet storage is cheaper.
"It is a tale, told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
signifying nothing.”
Still,there's some funny sh#t.
LOCKER edit: free the warbly one too
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anita514
Gym climber
Great White North
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Yeah, probably Holy Moosedrool.
Hey Cosmic, didn't you complain about that girl Elena or whatever her name was and basically got her booted every time she re-joined even if she wasn't really doing anything?
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Maybe he got caught up by the Delete Facebook wave and got carried away?
"Delete something, delete something. Oh yeah, delete my face. That's it!"
Whoops.
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labrat
Trad climber
Erik O. Auburn, CA
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"F*#K locker. There's your PC. I'm not joining your gang."
Dingus M
I'm beginning to think the deactivation is a plot by DM to take over the most posts on ST.
Locker has 50,484
Dingus Milktoast has 42,808 and counting.......
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Locker nay have more posts, but only DMT posted pictures of bear turds on an island.
That's got to worth double posts at the least.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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labrat, it's a well known fact that DMT is more than 73% of the posters on ST. Most of the threads here are just Dingus talking to himself. Case in point: the Wings of Steel thread.
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Trump
climber
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Oh bummer did he got shot in the back for holding a cellphone up to a cop or something? Or is this a tragedy that hits closer to home? Be careful out there people!
Free locker!
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Hope both Locker and Warbler make it through
Lol
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Why am I reading this crap?
Why am I bothering to comment on this crap?
Norton, it's a lost cause reasoning with this busload of loonies.
Moderation is a fatal thing. Nothing succeeds like excess. - Oscar Wilde
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Who gassed what and why? Don't ask locker.
-Jumping Jack Flash
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Some things cannot be "unseen."
This is one of those, Cosmic, you asswhole.
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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^^^P.T.Barnum called. He wants his freak back.
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cavemonkey
Ice climber
ak
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Anita nother butt plug is the best I’ve seen!
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Unfortunately I haven’t been able to devote much time to StuporTopo lately.
This is all Trump’s fault, right?
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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anyone who has more than a few thousand posts should exit
locker, tami, werner -- I mean, maybe 0.17% of what they have to say is even moderately interesting
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Robb
Social climber
Aloft on the wings of grace
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CAMP 4 LIVES!!!
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Apr 10, 2018 - 06:59am PT
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Just checking in. Took less than a day to devolve into total chaos I see LOL.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Apr 10, 2018 - 07:02am PT
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From Locker via e-mail last night:
Roy,
I wish Skippy would delete the thread (Would just fit the situation to a T) and wish CMac and company would follow through. I got an email from Chris stating "all set". But that's obviously not the case.
Ugh...
locker
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Apr 10, 2018 - 07:06am PT
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As per Locker request- will delete.
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