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Craig Fry

Trad climber

So Cal.

Jun 11, 2018 - 02:46pm PT

Pat
take a listen to Rush, Mark Levin or Hannity
that's what they say is true, it's the liberals that are the ENEMY
These idiots have no idea it's all lies

Was it OK for Trump to bomb Syria but not OK for Obama?
How about all the other troops lost due to Trump's blunders?

And 6400 dead in Puerto Rico
that's more than Bush killed in 911 and Katrina

Craig Fry

Trad climber

So Cal.

Jun 11, 2018 - 02:54pm PT

Do you hate Jesus too
since his ideas were all liberal

Do unto others as you would do unto you
cater to the least among us

name one conservative teaching of Jesus'

I guess he can't debate real issues
but has all the canned responses ready to go

Here's another question
What did liberals lie about, what liberal chaos?

are you sure you just aren't projecting?

Norton

climber

The Wastelands

Jun 11, 2018 - 03:01pm PT

Dirtbag, I know, but I do not think this guy (gal?) is a troll.

I do

nobody is that painfully, so obviously intellect challenged, has to be a troll

Norton

climber

The Wastelands

Jun 11, 2018 - 03:02pm PT

PUD confidently posted:

Your paychecks go farther than they have in the last decade because he is not afraid to dismantle the insane regulations put on this nation by the last admin.

Name those regulations passed into law by the Obama Administration that were "insane"
and then "dismantled", therefore resulting in larger paychecks for me

Patrick Sawyer

climber

Originally California, now Ireland

Jun 11, 2018 - 03:10pm PT

here is really no reason to discuss these things here. This is a climbers forum.

I have nothing to learn from liberal politics. I am only interested in the wholesale defeat of the idea.

ATG, I am biting because it is fun.

As far as a "Climber's" Forum, you are new to the Taco Stand (I think, perhaps you are the ghost of Christmas past, an exiled Supertopian posting under a new handle). It has been debated before. I think, and I could be wrong, that it is not a "Climbing" forum, but a "Climber's" forum, hence just like around the camp fire we talk more than just shop.

Otherwise it may be a bit boring, thought ST does have some of the best TRs, advice and stories from yesterday.

You claim you have nothing to learn from liberal politics, that you want to defeat liberal politics. What then? An homogenous world?

How boring.

Think about it ATG, if liberals were not there, who would you vent your hatred and frustration, who would you target? Your cat? Your dog? Your partner?

Be thankful for liberals, they give you a reason to hate. Though I am sure you would find another reason to hate.

If Trump had a jockstrap, would you lick it?

You come across as more self-righteous than many conservatives and liberals that I have met and known. Maybe you are knot, note I stress, you "come across". Am I judging you? I suppose so, like you seem to judge all liberals. You want us off the earth, you wrote it. How sad.

Leave the world. Gtfo and bye.

I do not want you off the planet. Earth needs all kinds of people, even ignorant ones, that is how we learn, in some ways, through our ignorance and the ignorance of others. And the realization of such ignorance, the futility of it.

Who is the close-minded ignorant one? You or me?

Therein lies my lesson for the day. Now as far as sheet metal is concerned, enlighten me. It makes good chimney flues, doesn't it?

rottingjohnny

Sport climber

Sands Motel , Las Vegas

Jun 11, 2018 - 03:40pm PT

ATG...You can't sniff Trump's jock it's been subpoened by Mike Avenatti for the Stormy case...rj

Patrick Sawyer

climber

Originally California, now Ireland

Jun 11, 2018 - 04:02pm PT

to debate morons on.

That is Mr Moron to you, if you please ATG. There are so many morons out there, I need to be differentiated, so ATG please be kind and courteous to this snowflake, Mr Patrick Moron, if you will. A little respect, please.

Quite a speech. How much is true? I would hope all of it, otherwise you are just a twit like many who can claim this and that, falsely, to try and prove a point. And do you care what I think? I do not think so. So this snowflake will just melt in the sun.

Yep, get cosmiccragman to come up with the usual. How is the window cleaning Cosmic? Yeah, you got a response out of me, and I laugh. Duane/Dwayne, how do you spell your name?

There is a rhyme somewhere in there.

ATG, I am in awe of you. That could be awesome or awful. Take your pick. You are a saint. Hispanic wife, unpaid service in Africa to the underprivileged. I am in awe. More that I have done.

Ever thinking about running for office?

Patrick Sawyer

climber

Originally California, now Ireland

Jun 11, 2018 - 04:09pm PT

Dwain, one can never believe what is true under one's avatar.

ATG I corrected that before you did, Of course, rhyme, why couldn't it be spelt rime, like lime? Semantics, linguistics or just linguine. Or lasagna.

ATG, with the exception of this forum and emails, both of which I do not consider to be social media, as my Facebook page is hardly touched and I am not a tweeter twit, I have never tweeted, nor ever will, I would never post anything on a YouTube or such, i do not do social media a such, and would never be negative on it.

So do not fret. I am not that sort. I will look at your video and will not comment on it. Suffice to say, you taking the courage to post about it is enough for me to see that you are (perhaps) genuine. I commend you (but not your politics, hah hah).

So I am just curious, why do you hate liberals?

Patrick Sawyer

climber

Originally California, now Ireland

Jun 11, 2018 - 04:28pm PT

Sure, like Kenyan or American what's the real difference?

Now, one could take that as a slight against Obama. of course, ATG, you did not mean it that way, did you? if so, you betray yourself and your apparent altruism.

And I could have read that wrong, but then I ask, why did ATG post that?

To be divisive? Or trying to be clever? Or just… ignorance. I mean, he worked with African children in remote villages, perhaps he knows Kenya. I do knot, what a "Goridan knot", a liberal hater that has worked with some sort of Peace Corps or missionary group or something.

It is late, I retire for the evening. As a liberal. And I shall wake up as a liberal, though ATG wants me off the planet. I guess he may hate me. As a liberal.

it has been fun though, better that television.

EDIT

And ATG, just remember as you lay your head on a pillow this night, as you pray to your Almighty, whatever/whomever, that may be, that the liberal scum of this world are banished forever. Sweet dreams.

Winemaker

Sport climber

Yakima, WA

Jun 11, 2018 - 04:31pm PT

....that are a 180ﾟ off ....

To type the 'degree' symbol hold the Alt key down and type 248. 180°.

You've got a lot of anger there ATG. It's interesting that 'liberal' organizations like the ACLU (of which I am a card carrying member) try to protect the Constitutional rights of all citizens, including Nazis, not just the 'liberals'.

Wade Icey

Trad climber

www.alohashirtrescue.com

Jun 11, 2018 - 04:46pm PT

Patrick Sawyer

climber

Originally California, now Ireland

Jun 11, 2018 - 04:54pm PT

Just one more post and then I am hitting the sack.

I agree, of the many posts, ATG's does come across as very angry towards liberals, the others we know about as they are regulars. ATG comes in and attacks liberals from the start. There is anger there, and hatred, and I recall some poster wrote that 'the hate will hate"or something like that.

Dwain, can you perhaps give me a new photoshop look, as the ones you have posted a number of times are getting quite old. You know my email address, I'll give you new images to work with. Contact me if altering images of me helps with your therapy.

None of us, even you Reilly, are not going to change or alter the the course of America. We are just here to spin our wheels.

One thing I learned being a full-time carer, we are all fragile, most of all, our psyches are. Who among you can deny that?

I have never met superman or superwoman. And never will.

Norton

climber

The Wastelands

Jun 11, 2018 - 05:11pm PT

ok ATG, i clicked on the link you provided and refreshed my own memory on the genocide in Africa

horrible, but what is your point? You seem to be linking that mass murder to what?

to "liberalism" or maybe the "criminal Clinton family"

how so, make your case clear and specific so we all can understand just what you are trying so hard to say

Patrick Sawyer

climber

Originally California, now Ireland

Jun 11, 2018 - 05:13pm PT

And you blame liberals for that? Your "crowd" has nothing to do with it? At best, naive, at worst, propaganda.

I do not want your respect ATG, and I would guess you do not want mine. But if you did, your double standards would "stand" in the way. you choose to look one way but apparently not the other.

I would think you would know, there are two sides to every story, that life is a two-way street, that there are a number cliches.

So you have experienced, if you are to be believed, blood on the ground in Africa. I have not, but that does not mean I do not understand.

You blame the blood on the ground on liberals. Please do not tell me you are that ignorant or naive.

I may have some troubles in my life, but I try to empathize and understand, to try and be open-minded.

Can you say the same with your hatred of liberals? ATG, whatever your experiences may be, do not dig the hole deeper.

Heavens, if you have indeed been to the blood fields of Rwanda as you claim, you should know better that to disparage any one group. Sure, it is easy in your mind to blame liberals. Easy and simple do not make the truth. You should know that.

Patrick Sawyer

climber

Originally California, now Ireland

Jun 11, 2018 - 05:37pm PT

Nice video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f3kao72ZG0

So where are you ATG, at what "minutes and seconds" in the 3+minute vid? You do not have to say, I am just asking.

There are a lot of conservative and liberal and non-secular and secular and everything in between organizations doing such work throughout this world, and they are to be commended. It is not just the conservative religious ones doing it.

Why pounce on liberals? What is your agenda?

There is hypocrisy on every side, surely you must see and understand that. If you cannot see that, I feel sorry for you, but I am sure you do not want my pity. You are righteous. You do not need liberals like me, you wish us off this planet, How Christian. I wonder what Jesus Christ would say if he were here today.

EDIT

I know, it is past my bedtime.

The Red Cross, the Red Crescent, they both do a lot of good work, extremely good work.

Do they blow their horns? Like some religious organizations do?

Cults. Christianity, Islam… what did L. Ron Hubbard say about creating a religion? Money?

I have no time for cults and their self-righteous beliefs that they are the pathway to some god.

And how they are the chosen ones, and how they are the only new to help the poor, invalid and stricken.

While collecting riches all the time. All of them.

My late mother taught me the golden rule. Do unto others as you would etc etc, old hat and cliche. But the right way to go.

Tell the truth as lies will only catch you out (and bite you in the butt).

Basically, be a good person and life will reward you. But do not be pious. You are not pious, are you ATG?

My rule is that I will treat others like I would be treated. Simple, isn't it. I do not need a bible or rocks etched in stone or a koran or a torah to tell me that.

I despise Donald Trump, but I do not hate him. I do not hate religion as such and `i do not wish conservatives off this planet like ATG does liberals, by his own admission.

I saw the hypocrisy, being baptized a Catholic and raised in religion. I do not need that. I want to treat my fellow humans with dignity and hope they return the favor. Naive? yeah, but better than praying to some icon of a god.

So ATG, I am not going to wither away and get f*#ked off the earth, though you seem to want liberals that (your own words/writing). But you can pray for that.

EDIT

I have been going through some of my previous ST posts over the years (since June 2005), sometimes I sure came across as an as#@&%e. Apologies if I offended anybody.

Russ Walling

Social climber

from Poofters Froth, Wyoming

Jun 11, 2018 - 05:43pm PT

Just one more post and then I am hitting the sack.

This is why the Libs just can't win... they lie all the time.

Benghazi!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fritz

Social climber

Choss Creek, ID

Jun 11, 2018 - 05:50pm PT

Mighty Hiker! Per your post:

Canada's plan to invoke the Monroe Doctrine, invade the USA, and put things there right:
https://www.macleans.ca/opinion/the-case-for-invading-america/

I admit, after the current Trumpian verbal attacks & this photo of Trump with your Prime Minister Trudeau at the recent Quebec G7 meeting, you folks likely have just cause.

As I have repeatedly been reminded by Canadian friends, wars between the U.S. & Canada have been won 2 – 0 by Canada, although the Canadians were obviously cheating, since the wars were being run by their British rulers.

However! I will be quick to surrender to Canadian forces if I can sign up for their healthcare plan.

Please, please! Don’t use Justin Bieber "music" as a weapon. That would be unfair & likely a war-crime too.