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Norton
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The Wastelands
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May 31, 2018 - 06:57pm PT
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neeBraun posted
hey there say, st00pid Americans... how do you tell the head nurse of a hospital? The one with the dirty knees...
over the line, way off topic, stupid and only grade school "funny"
women read this forum and thread too, you believe they think it real funny?
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zBrown
Ice climber
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May 31, 2018 - 07:00pm PT
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The Democratic leadership needs to understand they will NEVER convert Trump voters to their candidates; they need to pound the ground, get out the vote, and make this about something positive.
The Dems need to be a lot smarter this time around, but don't forget Hilly beat Trump by 3 million in the popular vvote
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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May 31, 2018 - 07:14pm PT
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A lot of them sat home ,this idiot should energize a few...
Or ,the economic thing coming...
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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May 31, 2018 - 07:20pm PT
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What do you see as a positive,now speak up ?
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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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May 31, 2018 - 09:10pm PT
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You guys are rediculous. Need a better more unifying message than the continual divisiveness.
Actually, it's spelled 'ridiculous'.
Trump and the Republicans are inclusive? Trump has had one 'State Dinner' and didn't invite a single Democrat, The President of the United States is supposed to speak for all citizens, not just the ones who voted for him. He, as President, is supposed to be concerned about the welfare of the United States of America. He has sworn to preserve and protect the Constitution of the United States, a document that he has never read and does not understand. No, he's only concerned about the welfare of Donald Trump. That's it; he is only concerned about himself. He would f*#k you in a New York minute if it were to his benefit.
Edited for language.
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 1, 2018 - 01:38am PT
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Power, polarization, and disruption is Putin's game plan.
His infection is infecting America.
The President is allowing it.
And, Congress is complicit in allowing it.
The people who were elected to protect us are, instead, standing by, idle.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Ask and you shall receive...
 BLM? Blacks against whites | No, people against unnecessary police violence
Antifa? Socialist against everyone | an unfortunate far-left response to blatant neo-fascism
Feminism? Women against Men | Seriously? More like women against moronic neanderthals
Global warning? Valid | That must have hurt
Free whatever it is? Rich against poor | Well, with the current state of wealth distribution it's only going to get worse
White privilege? Everyone against white males | You just can't get after this one enough
LGBT. You have to accept someone regardless of your personal beliefs? | No, you're free to ignore them...
LGBT. You have the right to be served.... | ...unless you run a business that serves the public, then yes, in that case, everyone has a right to be served
Transgender - a man, women or whatever is obligated to their choice of restroom? | No one is obligated, simply let them use the restroom of the gender they identify with
Trump Sucks. Russians won the election for him? | Trump is a carpetbagging, white nationalist sociopath and a traitor in bed with the Russians, but it was progressives aping and amplifying conservatives' Hillary strategy that turned off progressives, young people, and minorities and won trump the election. But Mueller is fastened to his leg like a rottweiler at this point and time is not on his side
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Yes,more false equivalence.
You cannot defend,so ,attack the opposition.
I wonder how many Russians are here.
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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BLM? Blacks against whites
Antifa? Socialist against everyone
Feminism? Women against Men
Global warning? Valid
free whatever it is? Rich against poor
white priveledge? Everyone against white males
LGBT. You have to accept someone regardless of your personal beliefs? You have the right to be served....
Transgender - a man/women whatever is obligated to their choice of restroom????
Trump Sucks..Russians won the election for him????
Your perspective is coming from a defensive posture. What is it that you are protecting?
BLM is not "against." It is an acknowledgement that....Black.Lives.Matter. You know how school children across the country are being affected by concerns their school could see a mass shooting? Many Black people have gone through a similar trauma; living in fear of a random and violent death. BLM is NOT against White people. Those who say it is - are wrong. No debate.
Antifa - It's coming out that many of the Antifa "members" and "events" are actually part of the Russia campaign; just as the "fake news" during 2016 election campaign. I know that seems implausible. We have been cursed with living in interesting times. So, if it must be seen as being "against," consider it is actually Russia against the US, weaponizing people.
Feminism is NOT women against men. It's women standing up for their rights. As people. Maybe if the English language didn't assume gender, and the Declaration of Independence was written "All People are created equal," things might have been different. We'll never know, but if you imagine it WAS written that way, I THINK one would have an "interesting" time arguing that was not intended that way; an argument that offers an example of why Feminism is necessary.
Global Warning: WarMing, not warning, but we all make typos and that one actually is an interesting malapropism; I like it. And,you didn't argue the point, so...next.
Free whatever - Sigh.... there is no free whatever.
White Privilege - Ummm, since when are white women exempt from receiving the benefits of being white in the United States? I certainly have experienced being given benefit of the doubt, due to my skin tone, in plenty of circumstances where a person of color would be viewed/treated differently.
LGTB(and Q) - "You" as a person can hold whatever beliefs you want to hold, but your right to those beliefs stops at the end of your hands. Are you seriously arguing for the right to treat someone poorly because "you" don't want to accept their humanity?
Transgender Bathroom - I don't know that "obligated" is the word you want.
Trump Sucks - Please pass the bleeach for my eyes at "seeing" that imagery.
A "message of unity" IS what the Democrat policy stands for, with regards to much of what you have posted in that quote. Is it REALLY difficult for you to imagine that other people are as deserving of certain inalienable rights as yourself? Do you view yourself as standing on the outside looking in when it comes to those groups? You know, you are welcome at any time.... Nobody but yourself is keeping you out.
Inclusive, that IS the message.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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The right wing victimhood meme is playing hard these days, those mean liberals and minorities are giving these poor conservative snowflakes such a hard time,
you should hear them whine on Rush and Hannity, I wonder how they make it through the day with out some new fake outrage
Part of the fascist playbook
stoke division
and the transgender bathroom thing!!!!
are you telling me that Chaz Bono should use the women's bathroom?
Please make your argument...here
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10b4me
Social climber
Lida Junction
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Trump was elected because of 8 years of this divisiveness. That is fact.
I don't recall the eight years under Obama being as divisive as the first year under trump.
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Ground Chuck, if you had a SHRED of sense, you'd delete your latest post before the Secret Service comes knocking on your door.
I quote: "Convictions under 18 U.S.C. § 871 have been sustained for declaring that 'President Wilson ought to be killed. It is a wonder some one has not done it already. If I had an opportunity, I would do it myself'; and for declaring that 'Wilson is a wooden-headed son of a bitch. I wish Wilson was in hell, and if I had the power I would put him there.'"
Ground Chuck is vaguer but no less venomous!
The sheer level of froth on this thread, and the fact that nobody else has enough of a shred of sense to call Ground Chuck out on this, reveals how far off the rails you guys really are.
Advocating for the death of the President is a felony, and this echo chamber should be able to recognize when somebody's froth has boiled over and vocally ratchet him back. The fact that it can't says volumes about what an echo chamber it is.
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Trump
climber
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The failing NY Times is reporting that they’re running out of superlatives to describe how good the latest jobs report is. So what? Seriously they’re kicking Stormy Daniels off the front page for this irrelevant bullsh#t? What kind of deplorable idiots care about jobs anyway?
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Jim Clipper
climber
from: forests to tree farms
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Hear hear. I noted the gravity of the comment, but didn't consider typing about it.
An aside, the time and money federal investigators spend on the Trump campaign investigation could be spent on other important issues.
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mtnyoung
Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
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Look at the whiplashing trade discussions/announcements. Chaos coming from the president. His mind changes like that of a six year old.
And then he says whatever's on his mind whenever it's there. Is it a strategy? Hardly. Total chaos; an inability to focus and stay focused.
Substitute the word "war" for the word "trade," and my comparison of our dear leader to Kaiser Wilhelm II is looking pretty good. Nitwits leading countries.
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Trump
climber
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Over on the failing CNN they’re reporting that black unemployment rate has hit a record low. Those damn deplorable racists! Who measures that irrelevant sh#t by race? I’m so woke I don’t even see color anymore.
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Trump
climber
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Yea that mental midget and his 6 year old chaotic mentality seems to have just stumbled into the Presidency, at least according to my genius calculations. That and half of the country are infantile racist deplorables! This should go well the second time around. Keep up the good work.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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I’m not protecting anything. Just merely pointing out the simplicity of what people have seen from the left. You can counter them all you want, but they are by and large divisive in nature. Each can be argued to death. The point is they are not unifying at all.
You choose how you want to view what other people are saying. The right wing / leaning media presents an extreme interpretation that fits into your bias if you choose it.
I'm not on the left. I'm centrist. Most of what I see from the left is not divisive. It's inclusive and striving for equality and tolerance (not acceptance there's a difference). There are a small percentage of far left people that are divisive, like antifa, and the right media spends a lot of time trying to make conservatives think everyone not a conservative is far left like that. There are terrible far right people too, neo-nazis, but I don't believe most people on the right are like that.
The NFL kneeling for the flag is a good example of how the right skewed something to generate outrage and make it something it wasn't. Players took a knee (changed from sitting to show more respect) to say that black people weren't being treated equally like the US ideals state. The right media (and Trump) created this narrative that they were protesting the country and military. And millions of people bought into it. I'm not thrilled about the players using the flag to make their point, but at least I know what they were saying and respect that, to make it something it isn't is dishonest and low.
The cake example is a tough one. I don't know how to solve that. On one side you have the business being forced to do something they don't want to do, on the other side you have denial of service. Like blacks at lunch counters in the 60s once you open the door to denying service how do you contain it? E.g. what's to prevent LGBT housing discrimination? I kind of feel if the baker doesn't want to decorate LGBT cakes they should make cakes and decorate them without any words or male/female figures and stop there so they don't have to deny any specific people anything. What if a mixed race couple came in and they said they wouldn't sell them a cake? Again it's a tough one, I'm not sure how everyone could be treated fairly.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Advocating for the death of the President is a felony,
The comment was offensive, but it did not advocate killing anyone. Protected speech.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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The right wing media lies about what liberals are, lies about our values, lies about what we want and makes us out to be the Problem
When you LIE to create division, then you are the source of that division
it's pure evil, in the Nazi vein
Please list anything that Jesus taught that was Conservative.
Then list all the liberal values he preached.
Jesus (dead) was the archetypical Bleeding heart Liberal.
And Liberal policies are to give the least among us value and a voice
How do conservatives treat the least among us?
with cruelty..
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