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Tom

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Topic Author's Reply - May 16, 2018 - 09:46pm PT
I apologize for the ALL CAPS, but at this point in time, shouting is appropriate:


IT IS HAPPENING, IN REAL-TIME, RIGHT NOW.

WE ARE WITNESS TO HISTORY BEING MADE, RIGHT NOW.


WE ARE WITNESSING THE PROOF THAT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WAS CREATED, INVIOLABLE, SO THAT IT WILL, FOR ALL TIME, WITHSTAND EVEN THE NEFARIOUS PREVARICATIONS OF A MONEY-ADDICTED MEGALOMANIAC.


DON'T YOU LOOK AWAY.

DON'T YOU FKING LOOK AWAY.


THIS IS HISTORICAL, AND YOU WILL WANT TO BE THERE, TO SAY TO BABIES WHO'RE NO LONGER BABIES: ''I WAS THERE''.....



The American republic deserves no less.

The American republic is strong, and robust.



Occasionally, a test of the strength of the republic is good.

It proves its worth to the Peoples who believe in it.


Yury

Mountain climber
T.O.
May 17, 2018 - 04:53am PT
Fritz:
Yes! Finally! Some honest Republican congressmen agree that Trump was elected with considerable help from the Russians!

I am still confused.
Could you please clarify the meaning of the word "considerable"?
Have they micromanaged a coup that has overthrown a legitimate US government?
Have they handpicked members of the next US government?
(This is what US did to Ukraine in February 2014. )
Norton

climber
The Wastelands
May 17, 2018 - 06:04am PT
less than "considerable" willing help from the Russians does NOT nullify the assault on our Democracy

the bigger questions is why isn't every Trump voter really pissed about this by now

because they lack the courage and intelligence to even admit they were and are, wrong
eKat

climber
May 17, 2018 - 06:10am PT
THIS BEARS REPOSTING!

And I do NOT apologize for ALL BOLD CAPS!

Topic Author's Reply - May 16, 2018 - 09:46pm PT
I apologize for the ALL CAPS, but at this point in time, shouting is appropriate:


IT IS HAPPENING, IN REAL-TIME, RIGHT NOW.

WE ARE WITNESS TO HISTORY BEING MADE, RIGHT NOW.


WE ARE WITNESSING THE PROOF THAT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WAS CREATED, INVIOLABLE, SO THAT IT WILL, FOR ALL TIME, WITHSTAND EVEN THE NEFARIOUS PREVARICATIONS OF A MONEY-ADDICTED MEGALOMANIAC.


DON'T YOU LOOK AWAY.

DON'T YOU FKING LOOK AWAY.


THIS IS HISTORICAL, AND YOU WILL WANT TO BE THERE, TO SAY TO BABIES WHO'RE NO LONGER BABIES: ''I WAS THERE''.....



The American republic deserves no less.

The American republic is strong, and robust.



Occasionally, a test of the strength of the republic is good.

It proves its worth to the Peoples who believe in it.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
May 17, 2018 - 06:48am PT
The right wing has anointed themselves as great patriots, protectors of the Constitution when it is convenient. Yet when the sh1t hits the fan they reveal themselves as spineless self-centered traitors. Phucking sad.
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
May 17, 2018 - 07:55am PT
Yury! Just click on the link, Russian doode.

The Senate Intelligence Committee has determined that the U.S. intelligence community was correct in assessing that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election with the aim of helping then-candidate Donald Trump, contradicting findings House Republicans reached last month.

“We see no reason to dispute the [intelligence community’s] conclusions,” the committee’s chairman, Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.), said Wednesday in a joint statement with its vice chair, Sen. Mark R. Warner (D-Va.), who added: “Our staff concluded that the ... conclusions were accurate and on point.The Russian effort was extensive, sophisticated, and ordered by President Putin himself for the purpose of helping Donald Trump and hurting Hillary Clinton.”
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/russia-favored-trump-in-2016-senate-panel-says-breaking-with-house-gop/ar-AAxnbP8?li=BBnbfcL
MGuzzy

Trad climber
Orangevale
May 17, 2018 - 08:04am PT
Meanwhile comic relief is going full throttle

WBraun

climber
May 17, 2018 - 08:09am PT
Yury -- "This is what US did to Ukraine in February 2014."

They brought in Neo Nazis and slaughtered civilians.

That was McCain and Victoria Nuland criminal activities in Ukraine.

St00pid clueless Americans like Fritz doesn't give a sh!t about regime changes and US collusions to destroy countries by his very own country.

Fritz only cares about the horsesh!t he's daily spoon fed by his irresponsible controlled mainstream media .....
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
May 17, 2018 - 08:20am PT
OK I think I've got it:

We should all try to figure out if a foreign entity may have given a little encouragement to one side or the other in a political campaign.

Then, if that side wins the election, we should all say the winner should be impeached or is illegitimate or, more generally, that the world is coming to an end.

I don't see any problem with that logic at all, or see how a foreign entity could ever abuse such power. And there's a zero percent chance that the foreign entity may have considered, like everyone else, that Hillary was almost certain to win, and so giving a little to help to Trump (which was almost certain to come to light) could not have been part of a general screw-things-up campaign.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
May 17, 2018 - 08:26am PT
you sniffing Windex again blabby
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
May 17, 2018 - 08:34am PT
The Russian's also hacked the DCCC

and used the dirt to influence down ticket elections
The early polls were favorable for Congress and state Dems in many Red states

but after the Russian "what ever" (voter roll tampering and FB hysteria)
there was a RED Wave of wins in every district

It looks like the whole GOP may be involved in election fraud

and then there is the Blatant disregard for the known facts about the Russian goings on before the election, they made a big deal about Hillary, but didn't report the crimes of the Trump team were involved in

Why? Our Gov. is deep state Republican, the whole FBI are Repubs
and they take their orders from the Republican leaders
dirtbag

climber
May 17, 2018 - 08:36am PT
Last week, some trump defenders were saying that those of us unwilling to acknowledge trump’s impending success with North Korea were loco.
xCon

Social climber
909
May 17, 2018 - 10:23am PT
how can trump possibly succeed with the north Koreans when the achievements of the iran deal are to be considered a failure?

oh and his staffing is reporting that hes basically refusing to 'prepare' for his meeting with kim...
Happiegrrrl2

Trad climber
May 17, 2018 - 10:36am PT
@TheSpyBrief on Twitter says there will be something big dropping in next 24 about Cohen, Someone asked if it would "connect the Don" and TSB said "the visuals will be very,very, bad."

I posted a comment that it had occurred to me the "Russian Adoption" program restriction that got put in place as retaliation in response to the Magnitsky Act was a cover for human traffiking.

Within a minute, I got a direct message from him, and he is in a position of authority to know, that the program was a cover for a "cover for several unpleasant things."

Don't know if there is connection to DT, but come the f on....a meeting about adoptions? REALLY? Does ANYONE really think DT Jr was meeting about the welfare of legitimate adoptions of children?

Consider the Trump Panama hotel that had "issues" a short time back, which was rumored to be a traffiking stop....

Go ahead and make the remarks about me and my foolish conspiracy ideas. I wouldn't mind being wrong on that.
NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
May 17, 2018 - 11:07am PT
"A meeting about adoptions" related to how Russia blocked USA folks from adopting Russian babies, as a retaliation to the USA sanctions in the Magnitsky act. The Magnitsky act was a reaction to the corruption and money laundering in Russia, where criminals were taking over companies and filing false tax returns to get huge refunds from the Russian government, and members of the police and government were complicit in the racket. Some of the money was traced to New York real estate... who do we know who is deeply involved in New York real estate and potentially has connections with Russians and questionable mafia-like folks?

A guy just doing his job (Magnitsky) that uncovered elements of the fraud was then blamed for it and tortured for a year in prison in Russia, then killed the day before his legally mandated release because they had nothing to hold him on. His family fought for years in court, their lawyer "fell out the window", and a lady lawyer on the criminal side of that was the same one in the Trump mtgs talking about "adoptions".

Don't forget- Preet Bharara (US Dist Attorney in New York) was on top of this and doing his job to hold folks accountable, and Trump fired him.

More detailed info from a post I researched about a year ago:
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=2960645&msg=3010974#msg3010974
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
May 17, 2018 - 11:47am PT
Don't forget- Preet Bharara (US Dist Attorney in New York) was on top of this and doing his job to hold folks accountable, and Trump fired him.

Don't know about the accuracy of anything else in the above post, but the above sentence is highly misleading.

US Attorneys are political positions and are typically replaced en masse when a new administration comes in.

That's what Clinton, Obama, and Bush did. That's what Trump did.

So while it may technically be correct to say Trump fired Preet, in context, it means absolutely nothing, and anyone pretending it does is either ignorant or trying to deceive you.

(There was some brouhaha about Preet saying he thought he was going to be kept on and then throwing a hissy fit when he got kicked to the can with everyone else, but that doesn't change the fact that US Attorneys are replaced when a new admin comes in, with very rare exceptions.)
Happiegrrrl2

Trad climber
May 17, 2018 - 12:45pm PT
DT said he hoped Barrara would remain with his administration, and later fired him.

While that doesn't prove he was fired over any issue in particular, it is a strange thing to do. Of course, doing strange things is not unusual for DT.....

Edit, the details in the post you don't know the accuracy of have been well reported and documented by reliable sources.
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
May 17, 2018 - 12:57pm PT
While that doesn't prove he was fired over any issue in particular, it is a strange thing to do. Of course, doing strange things is not unusual for DT.....

Look, he was not "fired" in any normal sense of the word, he was replaced along with every other US Attorney, just like previous administrations had done, with rare exceptions. Granted it would not have been particularly strange to have kept him on either, as in some rare (but not incredibly rare) situations prior US Attorneys have been kept on.

Here's another way to say it: there was absolutely nothing strange in replacing Preet. So absolutely nothing strange happened. But keeping him on would not have been really strange either. So discussing keeping him on was not particularly strange.

This is not really that complicated. It just seems a little complicated in the same way that if you're forced to give super precise instructions on how to do something that everyone knows how to do, it could come across as a little odd.

The only thing "strange" is arguing this point rather than just admitting that Nutjob's post was highly misleading, as I wrote, and fessing up.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
May 17, 2018 - 01:07pm PT
Last week, some trump defenders were saying that those of us unwilling to acknowledge trump’s impending success with North Korea were loco.

It’s painfully obvious you guys are desperately hoping peace talls fail.
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
May 17, 2018 - 01:15pm PT
It’s painfully obvious you guys are desperately hoping peace talls fail.

What peace talks?

So far it has been two egomaniacs all over the map oneven having talks.

And even if there were talks, who believes Rocket man or the dotard would honor them?
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