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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Feb 26, 2018 - 01:52pm PT
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First school shooting was like 40 years ago, a girl shot 9 people killing 7.
I doubt they could have predicted it (or that she was such a marksman).
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WBraun
climber
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Feb 26, 2018 - 02:07pm PT
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After you take all the guns away they'll just kill you with their cars, run you over.
They'll get you with machetes, with bombs, with knives, with poison, with all kinds of other sh!t you never thought of.
You people are st00pid.
The karmic reactions to all the violence the modern industrialized slaughterhouses and war machines against humanity will continue to manifest in various forms until you gross materialist wake up.
Yer all asleep at the wheel ......
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Feb 26, 2018 - 02:11pm PT
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Asleep at the wheel...yet another way to cull the herd.
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Lennox
climber
in the land of the blind
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Feb 26, 2018 - 02:15pm PT
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Werner that kinda sounds more Westboro Baptist-ish than krishna-ish.
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Social climber
Wilds of New Mexico
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Feb 26, 2018 - 02:15pm PT
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Even assuming arming teachers would help (a premise with with which I don't agree) the broader question is whether we should live in a society where our children need to be kept under armed guard in order to be safe. Even in the wild west there was no such need. What is really necessary is to stop arguing about how many bullets people should be able to shoot or bump stocks, or whatever, and instead drastically reduce the availability of all guns. It will take generations but you have to start somewhere.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Feb 26, 2018 - 02:21pm PT
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One, how would you like to be a teacher standing there in the school hallway, wearing civilian clothes with a gun in your hand when swat comes running into the active shooter situation?
Or as I heard on the radio the other day, how'd you like to be a black teacher with a gun when SWAT shows up?
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Feb 26, 2018 - 02:32pm PT
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How does SWAT identify an off-duty cop, most of whom are armed and not all of them white?
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Feb 26, 2018 - 02:38pm PT
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Everything will be ok now!
Oath Keepers To Station Volunteer Armed Guards Outside Schools
That’s the dream of Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes.
In the wake of the February 14 massacre at a Parkland, Florida high school, Rhodes is calling on members of his far-right anti-government militia group to serve as unpaid and unaccountable armed school guards — whether teachers and students like the idea or not.
One Indiana Oath Keeper has already deployed to a local school, even though the school district says there’s no need for him to be there.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Feb 26, 2018 - 03:11pm PT
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Great, armed Oaf Keepers hanging around schools. What could go wrong?
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Feb 26, 2018 - 03:41pm PT
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Hands up, all those who believe that Crooked Donald would have attempted (unarmed) to stop the Florida murderer? I am totally with you, MH. What a despicable character he is. First, to call out somebody as a coward, without knowing all of the facts -- the fricking president of the United States -- publically? And then to brag that he, the Donald, would have gone after the killer gun or no gun? You can't make this stuff up!
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WBraun
climber
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Feb 26, 2018 - 03:50pm PT
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The Donald can easily do it without a gun!
He just sends his troops in as he needs no gun.
He's 24/7 365 surrounded by dudes carrying guns.
He can even push the button and blow you all up, lol.
You people can't for the life of ya think at all.
Yer just zombies and stare at your screens like deer into head lights ......
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Feb 26, 2018 - 04:00pm PT
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You can be famous.
Time to stop reporting names.
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RussianBot
climber
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Feb 26, 2018 - 05:16pm PT
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Can anyone here say they didn’t know who was going to be a violent madman after first grade, or during the next 10 or 11 years of avoiding them at school?
Exactly. Sure, probably we all have lots of them! But I’d be surprised if we were right about any of them.
St000pid people. That’s why we need guns. Turns out we’re the st000pid people. Hope that helps.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Feb 26, 2018 - 05:42pm PT
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It is very redneck around here, indeed.
I am going with what Jaybro said. And anyone else with a kid in school.
Asking for sensible gun laws and /or restrictions,just look at what your met with here. See above.
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Feb 26, 2018 - 06:35pm PT
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As the noose tightens, and the petri dish fills to capacity, the conditions necessary for the re-appearance of an anti-christ become more and more saturated.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Feb 26, 2018 - 06:44pm PT
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Who is going to pay for this? Multiply that cost for a single school the number of schools in the whole country and you have a total cost of hundreds of millions or BILLIONS of dollars!
I know where California could get the money with plenty left over.
http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-bullet-train-cost-overrun.
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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Feb 26, 2018 - 08:21pm PT
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Good one, Ksolem. I'm wid you!
BAd
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Feb 26, 2018 - 08:40pm PT
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Because you can buy an AR-15 practically from corner vending machines and we sell bump stocks too to make it even more fun to mow down innocents...
"Because" is a causal word. Is that what you intend?
See, I think that the "because" is a pile of family/societal issues that turn a few people into homicidal whack-jobs.
Is there even ONE of them that thinks, "Gee, I was going to mow down innocents with an AR-15, but I just can't get my hands on one. I guess I'm done with all plans of rampage."?
No, as we've seen again and again, what the whack-job thinks is, "Gee, I have two pistols and a shotgun available. What can I do with those?" Or, "Gee, I got approved through the background check to buy this pistol and shotty, and that will be just fine for my plans."
I believe that the "because" refers to something entirely different from the weapon(s) of choice, and the stats bear that idea out. And in close-quarters, like school rooms, a seven-shot .357 magnum, .40 semi-auto, or even 9mm semi-auto is going to kill about as many people as an AR-15.
Again, focusing on the particular weapon is a red-herring. This latest whack-job PASSED A BACKGROUND CHECK and legally purchased his weapon! THERE'S your "because" in the sense of blame. If an AR-15 was not even available for sale, there are numerous hunting rifles that are ballistically equivalent, and a whole pile of pistols (with perhaps ONE additional reload that takes under 2 seconds) would have enabled this piece of trash to cause just as much carnage.
In a one-hour rampage (thanks to cowardly cops outside, which is another "because"), one additional reload is entirely irrelevant, so mag-caps would have had ZERO effect on the outcome. Choice of weapon would have had zero effect on the outcome, because he had SO many to choose from apart from the AR-15 that would have been just as deadly for his purposes.
Red-herrings!
And until we get serious about putting that "because" in the right place, you can pass all the laws you want, and you'll still get these random-evil events.
Next stop: Minority Report. That'll fix it!
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