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Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 16, 2018 - 12:25pm PT
My daughter just called me that shots were heard at her school, Highline college, in metro Seattle. She arrived on campus to find police in flak suit's and one of those urban assault riot tanks ( or whatever you call them). The campus is lock down, classes cancelled for today.

Looks like it's probably a. False alarm, as far as people hurt, but there do seem to have been shoots. Investigation is on going.

http://www.kiro7.com/news/local/highline-college-locked-down-for-reports-of-gunfire-on-campus/701283395[url="http://www.kiro7.com/news/local/highline-college-locked-down-for-reports-of-gunfire-on-campus/701283395"]http://www.kiro7.com/news/local/highline-college-locked-down-for-reports-of-gunfire-on-campus/701283395[/url]
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Feb 16, 2018 - 12:52pm PT
Watch out. The other shooting thread got locked!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 16, 2018 - 12:52pm PT
False alarm, but sobering!
A few years ago when I was teaching at Park Middle school in Antioch Ca, we had a bomb threat phoned in. It was after school and just teachers and staff on campus, and thought to be a false alarm. We were told to go have.

Even knowing that there probably nothing to it, it, Was somewhat chilling.

We live in scary times.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Feb 16, 2018 - 12:59pm PT
Nah, 1942 was scary times.

October 1962 was scary times.

Now somebody shtoops a porn queen and it is more important than Black Lives Matter.
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Feb 16, 2018 - 01:04pm PT
I do not enjoy time in the classroom these days.
ionlyski

Trad climber
Polebridge, Montana
Feb 16, 2018 - 01:05pm PT
Delete Jay. For Highline's sake just to avoid confusion.
So glad your daughter is OK.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 16, 2018 - 08:55pm PT
Good point ski. I'll give it a little time to see what comes then delete.
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Feb 16, 2018 - 10:50pm PT
hey there, say, jaybro... thanks for sharing...

prayers... (sounds trite, but, when one can't do anything else, one can
do this) ...
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 17, 2018 - 07:08am PT
Well said Neebs!
Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Feb 17, 2018 - 03:29pm PT
One theory is that the "shooting" sound was fireworks.
http://www.kiro7.com/news/local/highline-college-locked-down-for-reports-of-gunfire-on-campus/701283395
"Why do fireworks at a time like this? [It just] doesn't make sense," said Diane Semchek, a Highline College student.
I guess she hasn't heard of Lunar New Year (it was on Friday).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_New_Year
I know there are plenty of asians up there - I grew up there....
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Feb 17, 2018 - 08:24pm PT
Jay
I'm glad it wasn't another one, and happy your daughter is safe.
Too many of these. . .
Sierra Ledge Rat

Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
Feb 17, 2018 - 09:18pm PT
I want to express my gratitude to all of the young children in the U.S.A. who have sacrificed their lives to protect our right to carry guns.

To all you children, your deaths have not been in vain; I still have my guns.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Feb 23, 2018 - 05:29am PT
So you think having armed police at schools will stop all this? Think again.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-florida-shooting-resource-officer-20180222-story.html


An armed sheriff's deputy tasked with protecting students at a Florida high school waited outside during last week's shooting massacre that killed 17 people inside, law enforcement officials said Thursday.

Scot Peterson, who was assigned to the school as a resource officer, did not enter Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School during the shooting, but instead decided to take position outside the school as the gunman walked the halls, Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel said at a news conference.

"He never went in," Israel said.

Does a guy with a pistol stand a chance against a guy with a semi-automatic rifle?
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 23, 2018 - 08:27am PT
Which means we have to work on this the long way around; we have to address what it is in our world today that is causing the acceleration. Of this type of violence and work on that!


In the meantime making rapid fire weapons less available to kids, and everyone else, isn't going to hurt. No matter how your ( misunderstanding or) 2nd amendment feelings are hurt.
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Feb 23, 2018 - 08:51am PT
Does a guy with a pistol stand a chance against a guy with a semi-automatic rifle?

Sure. First of all, most handguns sold now are semi-automatic. So it's a semi-automatic handgun versus a semi-automatic rifle. No advantage there.

The main advantage of a rifle is much-increased accuracy, which is largely irrelevant in a close-quarter situation.
Yes a typical rifle has much more power than a typical handgun, but that's also largely irrelevant in that if you get shot with a 9mm loaded with self-defense ammo, you're basically done. For example, the Virginia Tech shooter used a 9mm (32 fatalities with that "pea shooter").

(One possible exception--if the criminal is wearing body armor, you may need a rifle to take him out--that could be a problem . . . )
Jim Clipper

climber
from: forests to tree farms
Feb 23, 2018 - 08:58am PT
Gotta buy your own bullets though


thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Feb 23, 2018 - 09:02am PT
I don't think i'd trust Jody around kids, with or without a gun.
monolith

climber
state of being
Feb 23, 2018 - 09:09am PT
So the good guy with the little handgun against the high capacity AR15 brings the death toll down to 10. But I thought we were only supposed to do 100% solutions?
John M

climber
Feb 23, 2018 - 09:15am PT

Its likely going to take many different approaches, including arming some school staff, and giving them pay raises, and either banning semi auto weapons or making them more difficult for at least young people to own them, and likely other things that we haven't even thought of yet before we solve this problem.


But I thought we were only supposed to do 100% solutions?

good point..
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Feb 23, 2018 - 09:36am PT
Per the problem with Florida's school cop not entering the building.

Unfortunately, it makes sense that police departments will not assign their "best & brightest, boldest & most-quick" officers to the mundane job of guarding schools. A problem that hasn't been addressed by those who want to "beef-up" school security.

Per those here who advocate having teachers defend our schools, sure why not, but I think we need to arm select students too.

After all, as Jody laments, the liberals have taken away their rights to defend themselves. However, arm the students who are born & raised to threaten others. Arm the sons of cops & military. Arm the football team. And arm the Young Republicans.

Give them brown shirts, arm-bands, batons, & automatic pistols.

What could go Rong?

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