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T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 13, 2018 - 08:49am PT
Well the wife came home from work Friday evening coughing, congested, headache, sore throat and being the giving person she is infected me over the weekend. :(

My symptoms came on fast, felt fine yesterday morning and by noon I was screwed.

We don't think it's this years flu because we don't have body aches, fever or vomiting.

We both work in germ factory environments and had to call in too sick for work today.

Mo is now on day 5 and is feeling only slightly better after rest, pounding fluids, over the counter cold/pain meds and Vicks VapoRub to help ease breathing.

I know a few others here have been battling the cold/flu for extended periods, share yer tales of illness and any tips or remedies you find helpful to fight off this crap.

Get well soon all!
locker

climber
Feb 13, 2018 - 08:53am PT


If I am not mistaken (and I may well be)...


if no fever is involved, then it is a "COLD"...






Intestinal virus vs respiratory virus vs "Common cold"...





An intestinal virus had me down for over a week, a few weeks back...

As soon as I got over that one, I caught a respiratory virus, and it too had me down for approximately a week...

Ugh...

Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Feb 13, 2018 - 09:09am PT
Hit me hard this year. Caught it on a bus ride to Vegas I think. Symptoms started about 30 hours later, at the bottom of the Grand Canyon loop hike. Then I had to drive home 500 miles.
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Feb 13, 2018 - 09:14am PT
It's been a super bad cold and flu year here.

To tell the difference, when you think you might actually die... that's the flu. You'll know right away. There are a lot of URI "flu-like" germs this year as well, but you can generally still function and the fever should be <101.

For simple bad colds, fluids, movement without exertion, sleep upright, saline nasal sprays. Ibuprofen can help.

For the Flu... Well, you drew the short straw. Tamiflu can't hurt to try if you catch it really early.

Avoid people inside as much as possible this time of year. Wash your hands, don't touch your face.




Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 13, 2018 - 09:18am PT
I take it you Luddite crankloons didnít get vaccinated?
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Feb 13, 2018 - 09:21am PT
Early findings from Canada indicate a 17 percent effectiveness against the viral strain, known as H3N2, thatís been the main culprit of flu in the U.S. this winter.

http://time.com/5138100/how-effective-is-the-2018-flu-shot/
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 13, 2018 - 09:29am PT
That may be true but it still decreases the severity of your symptoms.
If I can decrease my likelihood of having an accident by 17% Iíll take it!
T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 13, 2018 - 09:33am PT
^^^
I took the flu shot for a couple years about 10 yrs. ago and both times
I came down with the flu anyway. Your results may vary.

Tamiflu = $$$ even with good (by US standards) insurance.
Better than dying, but big pharma continues to screw us. :(
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Feb 13, 2018 - 09:35am PT
I always get the flu vaccine and it's failed twice over the past ~15 or so years.

This year apparently was a total miss with their brew...

John M

climber
Feb 13, 2018 - 09:39am PT
Welcome to the old folks forum. hahaha..

Got the flu the last week of Nov.. had it for 3 weeks.
Got the cold 2 days before Christmas.. had it for 5 weeks.

Compromised immune systems are fun fun fun!

This is what the doc prescribed for me last year.

1.Fluticasone propionate (Flonase ) : It can be prescribed or over the counter. It is a nasal spray for relief of nasal congestion and runny nose. Works a charm for me. Helps me breath so that I can sleep.

2. Robitussin DM : Used for cough and chest congestion.

First year for me that these things didn't devolve into pneumonia.


Edit: One reason the flu vaccine doesn't always work.

http://time.com/5138100/how-effective-is-the-2018-flu-shot/

1. How effective is the 2018 flu shot?

Early findings from Canada indicate a 17 percent effectiveness against the viral strain, known as H3N2, thatís been the main culprit of flu in the U.S. this winter.

2. Why are vaccines less protective against some strains of the flu?

One reason has to do with the most-common way flu shots are made. They typically contain killed (or ďinactivatedĒ) flu viruses that are grown in chicken eggs. Flu viruses that spread easily among humans tend not to grow as well in chicken eggs as bird flu strains do. This is especially the case for H3N2 viruses, which have been circulating continuously in humans since 1968 and are, therefore, very well adapted to humans as a host. When replicating inside eggs, H3N2 viruses are prone to undergoing adaptive changes that make them better-suited to the egg environment, but less likely to prompt the right response in humans. A mutation in the H3N2 strain meant most people receiving the egg-grown vaccine didnít have immunity against H3N2 viruses that circulated last year, leaving the vaccine with only about 30 percent effectiveness in the U.S. According to preliminary results from Australia, the flu shot was only about 10 percent effective against H3N2 there during the last winter in the southern hemisphere.

Though the vaccine might not keep your from getting the flu, it has been shown to help reduce severity. Meaning that if you had the vaccine and still got the flu and it was bad, then you might have croaked without it.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 13, 2018 - 09:39am PT
Tad, yer an educator! Donít be a Luddite! Itís more important than ever to be vaccinated now that yer of a certain age. 😐
T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 13, 2018 - 09:45am PT
^^^
Yeah, guess I'm not 10 feet tall and bulletproof anymore. ;)
Cragar

climber
MSLA - MT
Feb 13, 2018 - 10:03am PT
Last Thursday at noon, while standing in line at the bank, I got that funny taste in my mouth then just felt a little weird. I took sick leave the rest of the day and Friday. I slept as much as possible and had oregano oil, a lot of fresh ginger tea and put astragalus in my sodium rich chick noodle bowl. I am a believer in sleep and oregano oil for colds nísuch. It was only in my head and on Thursday evening I had pretty crazy upper molar pain along with a stuffy head and headache. I think I might have had a sinus infection. On Saturday I went and sauna'd with eucalyptus oil in the AM and went back home and hit the sack. By Saturday evening I was basically pain free and a little stuffy and continued resting with the tea and oregano oil.
locker

climber
Feb 13, 2018 - 10:11am PT

"I took the flu shot for a couple years about 10 yrs. ago and both times
I came down with the flu anyway. Your results may vary."
...



Had you not taken the flu shot...

you may well have gotten even sicker...


del cross

climber
Feb 13, 2018 - 10:27am PT
If I am not mistaken (and I may well be)...


if no fever is involved, then it is a "COLD"...

Flu doesn't have to include fever. If you have a fever I think you're more likely to have flu than a cold but you could have a fever with a cold too. The specific virus doesn't really matter so much since the way you treat it is the same.

I've been getting the flu vaccine every year too. It's better than no vaccine. I went on an overseas trip in December and on day 2 got sick. Muscle and joint aches, congestion, fatigue. I took an NSAID regularly to combat the aches and that could have suppressed a fever... or maybe I wouldn't have had a fever. I don't know. Cold or flu, it sucked to be on an expensive trip and have to spend 13 days motionless in an expensive hotel room. I watched replays of the Swans winning the AFL championship.

Shortly after I recovered my wife got sick. She virtually never gets a cold or flu so whatever bug I passed onto her must have been a good one.

John M

climber
Feb 13, 2018 - 10:33am PT
Hey Cragar... I forgot about the Oil of Oregano I used this year. I use it to treat a pilonidal cyst. The way that I know that it works is that the cyst use to get infected regularly. Twice it went septic. Since I started treating it with Oil or Oregano, I rarely have infections. I believe it also helped me keep this cold from devolving into a pneumonia.

I also used steam inhalation to treat the cold. I learned this year that cold viruses thrive in colder temps. This is why they settle into the sinuses. The temps in our sinuses hoover around 93 degrees. So inhaling steam or using a sauna helps to raise that temperature. Over a 100 degrees and viruses have a hard time surviving. Which is why our bodies raise their temperatures.
clode

Trad climber
portland, or
Feb 13, 2018 - 10:33am PT
Can't remember when I last had a rhinovirus (cold), probably a couple years or so.

I cannot remember ever having the flu.

Got a flu shot once, years ago, and it made me sick. Never had a shot since then.

Being a year-round bike commuter, I think exposure has bred resistance, along with eating healthy and getting good rest/sleep.

Now, where can I find some wood to knock on?
T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 13, 2018 - 10:40am PT
Got the flu the last week of Nov.. had it for 3 weeks.
Got the cold 2 days before Christmas.. had it for 5 weeks.

Damn John, Glad yer still with us.

Thanks for the beta all.
I'm off to the store for party supplies; OJ, chicken noodle soup, nasal spray, cough syrup and a flu shot.

Credit: T Hocking
locker

climber
Feb 13, 2018 - 10:50am PT

"Cold symptoms usually begin with a sore throat, which usually goes away after a day or two. Nasal symptoms, runny nose, and congestion follow, along with a cough by the fourth and fifth days. Fever is uncommon in adults, but a slight fever is possible. Children are more likely to have a fever with a cold.Sep 17, 2016"...
John M

climber
Feb 13, 2018 - 10:56am PT
Thanks Tad. Its been an interesting life. I liken my body to a Fiat. When it goes, it goes pretty good. But it sure breaks down a lot.

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