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High Fructose Corn Spirit
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Topic Author's Reply - May 29, 2018 - 09:06am PT
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Many posts here, it seems to me, are pretty loose with their use of terminology. Despite being characterized as philosophical and therefore attentive to precise wording and definition.
Just the nature of the subject matter and discussion, I guess. And the times, too, perhaps. And the current state of language. Maybe future history will cover these concepts/realities differently. With more clarity.
pretty loose with their use of terminology...
Pretty loose with the contextual framing, too, it seemed.
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Ed Hartouni
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Livermore, CA
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May 29, 2018 - 09:13am PT
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detecting life from atmosphere disequilibria:
https://exoatmo.sciencesconf.org/74812/document
the 0.7 TW of power required to keep the Earth's atmosphere in its state is biological,
human electric generation capacity is an order of magnitude greater than that, roughly 7TW.
It would be interesting to calculate if climate change signatures in the atmosphere could be observed from afar.
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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May 29, 2018 - 10:28am PT
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Good find--from one of my Alma maters, even. Unrelated to our discussion here, but pretty stunning that "If photosynthesis ceased, O2 decreases exponentially to <0.4% in~10 m.y." I had never seen that calculated before.
Back to fusion, I guess if one of our neighbors--within 50 or so l.y.--just happened to be looking at the right moment, and were on the correct side of the galactic plane, they might catch a glimpse of Tsar Bomba or one of our Pacific Ocean blasts. Or maybe note the magnetic field interruptions that took place before we took our toys underground?
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jogill
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Colorado
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May 29, 2018 - 11:56am PT
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Despite being characterized as philosophical and therefore attentive to precise wording and definition
It's too bad that philosophical discussions frequently must skirt this issue: "being" , "consciousness" , "rigid designators" , etc. Volumes are written attempting to define these terms by assuming positions, then reasoning toward those definitions. There may be no other way forward in such vague territory.
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WBraun
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May 29, 2018 - 08:12pm PT
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There may be no other way forward in such vague territory.
That's because the gross materialists are so clueless all while masquerading themselves as knowledgeable ......
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Topic Author's Reply - May 30, 2018 - 07:32pm PT
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Hugh Herr's 2018 TED is up.
How we'll become cybergs and extend human potential...
https://www.ted.com/talks/hugh_herr_how_we_ll_become_cyborgs_and_extend_human_potential?utm_campaign=tedspread&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=tedcomshare
"At MIT, Hugh Herr builds prosthetic knees, legs and ankles that fuse biomechanics with microprocessors to restore (and perhaps enhance) normal gait, balance and speed."
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Aside...
Ignaz Semmelweis...
Semmelweis's practice earned widespread acceptance only years after his death, when Louis Pasteur confirmed the germ theory and Joseph Lister, acting on the French microbiologist's research, practiced and operated, using hygienic methods, with great success. In 1865, Semmelweis was committed to an asylum, where he died at age 47 of pyaemia, after being beaten by the guards, only 14 days after he was committed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignaz_Semmelweis
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 16, 2018 - 04:53pm PT
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Take a moment to appreciate the genius of science, engineering and Uptown Funk...
[Click to View YouTube Video]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHBcVlqpvZ8
Recall 150 years ago, we had horses for transportation, telegraph for long distance communication, and women in America were NOT ALLOWED to vote.
You wonder if they did it on purpose - putting this bot's brains not in its head but in its ass!
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 17, 2018 - 12:08pm PT
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xCon, that's another good one, thanks.
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MIT AGI: AI in the Age of Reason
Steven Pinker with Lex Fridman...
[Click to View YouTube Video]
https://youtu.be/epQxfSp-rdU
Despite the great advances in AI, as an engineer (once an engineer always an engineer, right?) I remain firmly, for a long time now, with Pinker and Harari, not Harris and others, re AGI fears. Everyday AI algorithms gone amuck are the much bigger near to midterm concerns, imo.
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WBraun
climber
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Oct 17, 2018 - 06:21pm PT
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More horsesh!t from Fruitloops and his brainwashed Pinker who have no real clue for life or its actual meaning.
Both trying to make life better artificially.
Life is NOT artificial.
Both following Dr. Frankenstein into delusion as usual ......
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NutAgain!
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South Pasadena, CA
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Oct 17, 2018 - 08:03pm PT
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Nature created animals, and animals created artifice. Therefore artificial is natural. But it is natural that you make an artificial distinction about the nature of nature and artifice.
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