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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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pretty dry last weekend after the snow...
amazing that people don't walk from the lodge area (with that new parking area in the place formally known as Camp 4).
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Inner City
Trad climber
Portland, OR
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DMT,
Not sure the fee is going to limit much. Most of those folks in attendance are coming from far-flung locations with expensive cameras, I'll bet they won't mind paying the fee. Others will walk in of course, which seems a smarter option anyway...
it does seem like a year that is not shaping up well for the ephemeral wonder to occur...still time tho.
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Bullwinkle
Boulder climber
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Why is it that those who live here understand what's going on, and those who don't are so certain of what they don't know. . .df
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steve s
Trad climber
eldo
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^^^ because everyone is an expert.
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Hearst Castle, apparently, seeks to enforce a similar copyright law that prevents anyone from taking photographs.
Even from the back side, from her father's ranch that overlooks it, Carrie says that a photo that has never been seen before is forbidden.
Stupid is, as stupid does, but this is apparently a real thing.
Carrie says that photographing Hearst Castle, from any angle, violates copyright laws.
Copyright law, now, doesn't just protect a specific photo. The copyright law, apparently, extends to what a person can see, or take a picture of. Ostensibly, a person can look in a particular direction, but not take a photograph in that particular direction.
The copyright law that protects a famous person's visage, from being used without their consent, has now (amazingly) been applied to rocks and a building. And, that building is a California State Parks facility, which is owned by the Peoples of the State of California. The rocks are owned by the Peoples of the United States of America.
Look, yeah, but don't click.
Buy your clicks at the Mister Majestyk Mountain Motel gift shop.
Look, but don't selfie.
It's the Law.
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PellucidWombat
Mountain climber
Draperderr, Utah
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Hearst Castle, apparently, has a copyright law that prevents anyone from selling photographs of it.
So does all of NYC as well, apparently. I was stopped by a cop & ID'ed while taking photos in the middle of the night around the financial district back in 2009. Everyone has got to milk their cut, I guess...
$$$$$$
$$$$$$
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stevep
Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
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Pretty sure that non-commercial photography as infringement of copyright would not be enforceable.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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I licensed one of my shots of federal property to Getty Images, and Getty sold it to the N.P.S.
No permit, commercial or otherwise.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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So does all of NYC as well, apparently. I was stopped by a cop & ID'ed while taking photos in the middle of the night around the financial district back in 2009. Everyone has got to milk their cut, I guess...
I think that was part of an anti terrorist law. Could be wrong.
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 6, 2018 - 09:36am PT
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Making everyone in violation of laws that are selectively enforced is an excellent way of controlling an entire population and maintaining a power structure.
"Thank you for not grinding your boot into my lips when you are stepping on my face."
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PellucidWombat
Mountain climber
Draperderr, Utah
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10b4me: I think that was part of an anti terrorist law. Could be wrong.
That is what I asked the cop, but he said 'no'. Other people were taking photos in the area using point & shoot cameras and he didn't care about them. What set me apart was that I was using a tripod under low night, with a DSLR camera, which meant that I could be making commercial-viable night photos (I never had any issues taking photos in the city with a point & shoot or DSLR without the tripod). He specifically asked me if I was intending on selling the images personally or to another outfit. He then recorded information from my ID for whatever reason and then let me continue to take photos... with the understanding that I was NOT to sell them.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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hollywood tried to copyright the word "Hollywood", were denied, so they copyrighted the crooked layout. So dont be trying to sell pics of the sign or any facsimile of it.
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stevep
Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
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While there have always been rules about specifically commercial activities in National Parks, i.e. guiding or photo workshops, I don't think they would have any luck enforcing laws against taking pictures. And I suppose they could prohibit tripods for safety/crowding purposes. But as long as you tell them the photos are for personal use, I don't think they can prohibit that.
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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The Horsetail event is a clusterfvck that needed to be wrangled so I kind of get it.
As far as I know... All federal land requires a permit if you plan to sell any photo of anything - the point being you can take pictures to remember your trip but you aren't supposed to make money off them without ponying up.
Trying to enforce this rule is impossible BTW. We made a feeble attempt up at Schulman Grove last year- it was totally futile.
The FS doesn't have the means to go after everyone who has non-permitted pictures for sale online.
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WBraun
climber
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what does it cost guidebook authors to get this permission?
They have to pay Starbucks big bucks since they are now in Yosemite.
If they don't pay, they get sent to Siberia Gulag because Trump is friends with the Putinator.
The world is not same anymore ......
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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When photographs of public lands are outlawed,
THEN
Photographers will be outlaws.
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I'll only give up my right to photograph public lands
AFTER
You sue, or shoot me, & pry my camera from my cold dead hands.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Wasn't their an incident decades ago where a camera was confiscated when a party topped out on El Cap, trying to catch shots taken for sponsors.
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