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zardoz

Trad climber
Colorado Springs, CO
Jan 10, 2019 - 06:18am PT
They want to have more anxiety?

Ha ha. Doesn't affect them that way. Do you get paranoid on the pot? I never did. Only makes me sleepy.
7SacredPools

Trad climber
Ontario, Canada
Jan 10, 2019 - 08:41am PT
I have a very good friend in Telluride that spent 3 years in Leavenworth ,for a half ounce,found in a pullover in Kansas.

Now that's criminal. So much for all that FREEDOM bullsh#t.
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Jan 10, 2019 - 02:48pm PT
don't get me wrong. I am super stoked that VT legalized just wish we were smart enough to regulate and tax so that maybe we could get everyone on decent health care.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 10, 2019 - 03:26pm PT
From what I have heard ,Vermontís legislature is working on a way to tax and regulate businesses. They are set to do that this spring.

Then you will get significant revenue that they will have to decide how to use.

New York wants to use the same strategy.

Letting citizens have the opportunity before corporate interests is going to create business opportunities for the common man.

Even folks like me that have been in this business since college.
couchmaster

climber
Jan 10, 2019 - 04:41pm PT

Long overdue, there's no need to lock up honest folks for personal choices. It's bullshit on a high level. Congrats Wilbeer and the rest of you "Yankees". Now to work on all the confederates and everyone else who hasn't figured it out so they can be free as well.

Next thing to work on it the seizure (AKA "theft") by (dishonest) cops of cash that honest folks may be carrying.
Bale

Mountain climber
UT
Jan 10, 2019 - 05:00pm PT
Credit: Bale
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Jan 10, 2019 - 05:36pm PT
Yeah, smoking weed gives me anxiety,........ when I look in the rear view and see the popo.

We're not out of the woods yet. The elf on the shelf Sessions is not inclined to implement Obama policy.
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Jan 11, 2019 - 02:53am PT
regardless of what state law says the feds can still take your guns if they wanted to press the issue...
Contractor

Boulder climber
CA
Jan 11, 2019 - 05:31am PT
Alt Right, vaping gamers and the Confederate moonshine legacy has Trump looking the other way- he doesn't want to piss off a faction of his base.

Jebus H Bomz

climber
Sacramento, CA
Jan 11, 2019 - 06:55am PT

Jan 10, 2019 - 05:36pm PT
Yeah, smoking weed gives me anxiety,........ when I look in the rear view and see the popo.

We're not out of the woods yet. The elf on the shelf Sessions is not inclined to implement Obama policy.

The Elfís out, hadnít you heard?

I agree weíre not out of the woods. Thatís a pretty wide swing between legal and federal penalties.
August West

Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
Jan 11, 2019 - 11:32am PT
From what I have heard ,Vermontís legislature is working on a way to tax and regulate businesses. They are set to do that this spring.

Then you will get significant revenue that they will have to decide how to use.

New York wants to use the same strategy.

Letting citizens have the opportunity before corporate interests is going to create business opportunities for the common man.

Even folks like me that have been in this business since college.

I don't see why the pot business should be treated as any other business. Should we break up the big wine makers because it it evil to have large corporations that can offer products to consumers at lower prices?

But on a more serious topic. Recently read that CA's pot tax revenue is only about half of what was expected.

Gee, it seems that if you make it really hard to get a license, you discriminate against companies trying to get economies of scale, and have really, really high taxes, consumers will continue to buy on the black market. Who would of thunk?

The state should make it easy to get a license. Have the taxes low for five years or so to drive the black market out of business. And then start raising them.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 11, 2019 - 12:47pm PT
August,those are good questions.

As a response, those wine and booze makers have a great deal of leverage in their respective markets. Lobbyists contour a lot of their regulation and or practices.
They are entrenched in our political environment.

Look what happened after prohibition of alcohol. You could not even brew beer at home until Jimmy Carter freed that up.

The companies over here ,Constellation,Anheuser-Busch even North American Brands(Genesee Beer) have already either bought out growers of medicinal pot,or started their own grow operations (Columbia Care,Butler Evergreen,both local to me)expecting to capitalize.

Now ,I do not see anything wrong with that ,except ,the complete neglect and bypass of regular citizens getting a crack at starting businesses.

Especially those that have been in this for some time,who pushed,advocated and even lobbied for an end to this prohibition. Some have even paid a hefty price for this.

This corporatization ,if you will ,will take place eventually,but ,it should not be just handed to them.

Especially from those who aided the prohibition in the first place,the government.


One thing I will tell you is that the prohibition may never be over,even if the Feds end it and there are some states that will not legalize,here comes the


ATF.
WBraun

climber
Jan 11, 2019 - 12:50pm PT
Only sick people need to smoke marijuana.

Once healthy no need for it anymore .....
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Sacramento, CA
Jan 11, 2019 - 12:50pm PT
The greed train express isnít going as fast as they want, huh?

Your thoughts seem logical, August. I wish our leadership were too, lol!

I feel like weed is still sketchy while federal mandate lags woefully behind. Granted, itís great the heads donít have to go to some lame dealerís house anymore and pretend they like his black light art and say, naw, man, I donít also need some coke for the road, thanks.

How much of the black market is cartel-controlled now though? I bet thatís dipped down. Hopefully gettin years of incarceration for weed has too, though I heard marijuana arrests had actually gone up since increased legalization. You have to smoke a fatty just to keep all this shet straight!
jogill

climber
Colorado
Jan 11, 2019 - 01:07pm PT

"We've had legal weed in Colorado since 2012 and it's worked out nicely"



https://www.thecannabist.co/tag/pueblo-area-pot-busts/
wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 11, 2019 - 01:09pm PT
Work is over,I am rolling one right now.

Certainly not to get things straight,lol.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 11, 2019 - 01:14pm PT
Jogill,does anyone that goes to Colorado,visit Pueblo?


That is amazing though.
jogill

climber
Colorado
Jan 11, 2019 - 02:30pm PT
I voted for legalization. The Mexican/Cuban cartels were delighted when voters approved. Fortunately, they have instructed their minions here to offer no resistance to arrest, so there has been little to no violence.

Pueblo is certainly not a primary destination for visitors to the state. The city has a poor reputation and a high crime rate. Fifty percent of the population is on Medicaid. Pueblo West, where I live, is more affluent and is in a much better school district. But we have six to ten pot outlets and have had a number of raids on converted homes.

Good luck, Vermont.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 11, 2019 - 02:46pm PT
So is it that the cartels are setting up illegal grow houses or other venues ,or is it the prohibition continues?


Setting small limits and then enforcing violations is still prohibition.

Especially when making it hard to obtain permit/licenses etc.

Were these limits and or regulations in anyway affected from large corps,or business friendly government?

I did not mean to bemoan Pueblo, I have rolled through once or twice.

Just pointing out it is not the destination of most. Maybe why the problems.
August West

Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
Jan 11, 2019 - 04:13pm PT


Not sure if you are talking CA or CO.

I suppose there is some large scale smuggling from states that have legalized it to those that have not. But I'm not sure that is so much different.

A lot of pot use to come from Mexico. But even before the legalization measures, more and more was domestically produced. Especially the higher quality indoor stuff. So much easier than moving it across an international border.

If pot had always been legal, I don't think the current tax regime would create a huge black market. But since that market already exists, it is relatively easy for illegal dealers to continue on business as normal.

It's not that I'm always thrilled with huge corporations. But I still don't see why pot should be treated differently. I'm not saying that licenses shouldn't be given out to mom-and-pop type of shops. But I don't see why big companies should be denied licenses.
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