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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
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Jan 13, 2018 - 09:46pm PT
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Tom Patterson
Trad climber
Seattle
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Jan 13, 2018 - 10:00pm PT
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Yeah...she's pretty...bad.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Jan 13, 2018 - 11:14pm PT
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After The Beatles’ break up, John Lennon performed with Chuck Berry.
A huge rock fan since he was 15, this was a once in a lifetime chance.
What does Yoko do?
Screech every now and then while being the tambourine player.
This video will make you go “What the f*#k?”
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jan 13, 2018 - 11:26pm PT
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Yoko shoulda been tried at the Salem Witch Trials.
Can you imagine her singing her kids lullabies to put them to sleep?
Poor kids probably hoped not to ever wake up.
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SilverSnurfer
Mountain climber
SLC, UT.
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Jan 14, 2018 - 01:05am PT
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Understandably, Yoko is not everyone's cup of tea. However, some pretty standout musicians such as Thurston Moore, Beth Gibbons, Laurie Anderson and Ira Kaplan have named her as an influence and a number of groups based songs around vocal stylings that borrowed directly from her.
I think that 1981's Season of Glass is an album worth listening to, pairing a really good group of primarily studio musicians with vocals that are probably more listenable for most.
On the other hand, I've seen Melt Banana live more times than I can remember, so my opinions should probably be taken with that in mind.
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landcruiserbob
Trad climber
PUAKO, BIG ISLAND Kohala Coast
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Jan 14, 2018 - 01:38am PT
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It’s all about the power and control of a Japanese JJ has on the poor western man. 1000’s of Years isolated on an island created the perfect man Controller....
Poor poor John
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zip
Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
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Jan 14, 2018 - 06:22am PT
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That was seriously painful to listen and watch.
Loved The Beatles.
Devastated when they broke up.
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WBraun
climber
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Jan 14, 2018 - 08:43am PT
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My air compressor sounds better than her.
When my air compressor is running sh!t gets done, when her mouth starts screaming nothing gets done but people running away .....
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jan 14, 2018 - 08:49am PT
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zB, that doesn’t mean he can’t hear screeching.
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Jan 14, 2018 - 11:25am PT
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You're just pissed she married John Lennon, Russ!!!!
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Jan 14, 2018 - 12:47pm PT
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Ballo, I respect your idea, but that narrator's cheesy voice is just as abrasive only moreso cuz he don't shut up, hence even more egregiously distracting from the music.
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kief
Trad climber
east side
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Jan 14, 2018 - 12:50pm PT
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Back in 2011 I was working in house management at Miller Theatre in NYC. We hosted a benefit concert for Japan earthquake relief less than a week after the quake, organized by John Zorn. Yoko and Sean Lennon closed the show. Beforehand I shared the attitude expressed by many in this thread towards her “music” and thought it was a huge mistake to have her on after Sonic Youth. Boy, was I wrong. She rocked so hard she had the entire audience on their feet. Same kind of megawatt charisma I’ve seen in just a handful of other performers: James Brown, Dylan, John Lydon, Patti Smith. No screaming, no arty posturing. She was 78 and moved like a woman barely pushing 30.
It was magical. And all the moreso being totally unexpected. Nope, I didn’t rush out and buy her recordings. But it was one of the best gigs I’ve ever had the privilege to witness.
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Ballo
Trad climber
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Jan 14, 2018 - 01:20pm PT
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that narrator's cheesy voice
How dare you mock Bill Burr's MassHole voice
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Ballo
Trad climber
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Jan 14, 2018 - 01:22pm PT
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kief, that's an interesting account considering the rarity of people's praise for Ono's musical abilities. What was she rocking out on? Any video or audio of this event?
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Jan 14, 2018 - 01:38pm PT
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Is it any wonder...
that the Dakota has walls that are soundproof, 4 feet thick and packed with Central Park soil, I'm told?
[Click to View YouTube Video]Apologies to Harry Nilsson.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Jan 14, 2018 - 01:42pm PT
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^^^^ in all fairness mouse, that was not intended to be singing. It is her warm-up/stretching routine for the Coney Island hot dog eating contest.
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Ballo
Trad climber
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Jan 14, 2018 - 01:44pm PT
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This video is probably what inspired the hoax story about the Hillary-Yoko affair.
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hellroaring
Trad climber
San Francisco
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Jan 14, 2018 - 02:16pm PT
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Not really a fan, however, the avant garde is almost always panned by the mainstream as garbage. 30 + years ago when Sonic Youth played a gig in some farmer's utility garage in the middle of a corn field in Kansas people were saying they sucked. Now some of those same people like to brag about how they were there.
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Jan 14, 2018 - 02:28pm PT
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the avant garde is almost always panned by the mainstream as garbage.
And when that happens it represents one of the few times the mainstream is right about something. Of course there are very rare exceptions.
A friend of mine once told me he thought the only good thing to come out of Lennon's death was that Yoko Ono would slip, howling and screeching, into well-deserved obscurity-- which she has, thankfully.
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kief
Trad climber
east side
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Jan 14, 2018 - 09:21pm PT
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Ballo, that video above was not from the night at Miller. The show was broadcast in Japan but all I could find on the web were some stills of her and the (Plastic Ono) band here.
I remember she did a medley of “Ready Teddy,” “Rip it Up,” and another 50s rocker. There was a dance song called (I think) “Move on Fast.” She did “Why” from the 1970 Plastic Ono Band album with John. I remember that Sean was playing his dad’s guitars. We had a capacity crowd of 700 people and mingling with them on their way to the exits I heard one expression after another of appreciation for Ono’s performance and stunned disbelief at how good she was. So it wasn’t just me.
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Ballo
Trad climber
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Jan 14, 2018 - 10:19pm PT
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Right on. I guess it's an urban legend now :)
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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Jan 15, 2018 - 07:18am PT
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I think it's Werner for the win. On stage she's an industrial accident with heavy casualties. The problem with the "avant garde" is that it is so much about just plain ugliness with a thick, thick overlay of obtuse verbiage to justify it. I feel for her and the horrific tragedy of losing her husband, but she would get virtually ZERO attention if she hadn't married John. I'll give her this, however: She commits to the act, which is either commendable or sad, maybe both.
BAd
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Russ Walling
Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 15, 2018 - 11:07am PT
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^^^^^
Mercy.....
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ionlyski
Trad climber
Polebridge, Montana
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Jan 15, 2018 - 11:19am PT
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The real shortcoming in this lady is the way she treated and totally screwed Cinthia Lennon and John's first son, Julian. Left them in near poverty for years, wouldn't allow Julian to be with Sean and wouldn't allow John to have visitation with Julian. Sure he could have prevailed and been a better father but her jealousy was quite overbearing. Even now to this day she has not shared ANY of the inheritance with that family.
Arne
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Jan 15, 2018 - 02:54pm PT
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Melt bananas look like RHCP in 1988 except with a few Asian chicks. Back when they just kind of smashed stuff together. Weird gimmick but some people are into weird gimmick bands.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Jan 15, 2018 - 03:02pm PT
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To answer Russ' question: Hell yes, but it's tough to imagine who that might be...
[Click to View YouTube Video]
"Shield for your eyes" should be played at FULLFUGGINVOLUME!!!
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Jan 15, 2018 - 03:14pm PT
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Not just anyone can pull off something like Trout Mask Replica.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Jan 15, 2018 - 03:15pm PT
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Yoko is one of my all time favorite vocalist right up there with Alfalfa of Spanky and the gang..
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ionlyski
Trad climber
Polebridge, Montana
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Jan 15, 2018 - 03:34pm PT
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//That's hard to believe. Julian was 17 when John died, and I don't think New York estate laws would allow the disinheritance of a minor child
This report states that the estate settled in the UK, and Julian recieved 20 million pounds in 1996. I have doubts about that too, because I thought he moved his residence to the US for tax purposes.
https://www.blog.trialandheirs.com/celebrities/celebrity-legacies-john-lennons-estate//
BJ, well that's hard to believe. I have read several accounts of the rip off at least from Julian's perspective as he's done several interviews. Who knows?
Arne
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scaredycat
Trad climber
Berkeley,CA
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Jan 15, 2018 - 08:25pm PT
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I gotta say that I think a lot of you are ass holes. If the term weren't bandied around so freely now days, I would say racist f*#king ass holes. Yoko contributed and contributes to art in all forms. More than most of you can say.
I love the Beatles but they were dead as in:
'E's not pinin'! 'E's passed on! This parrot is no more! He has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! 'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'im to the perch 'e'd be pushing up the daisies! 'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig! 'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisible!! THIS IS AN EX-PARROT!!
F*#king Yoko didn't end them. I'm trying to be nice, but wrt to my "racist" accusation: where's the vitriol for Linda Eastman McCartney? (interesting side note here http://beatleshistorian.com/?p=184 .
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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Jan 15, 2018 - 08:38pm PT
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Believe me, Scaredy, Yoko would suck out loud on ice regardless of race, which I never even considered. ALL that matters in this discussion is that hedious effin' noise coming out of her pie-hole. Gah! Check out Chuck Berry as he winces when she cuts a nasty one.
BAd
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Russ Walling
Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 15, 2018 - 09:18pm PT
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I gotta say that I think a lot of you are ass holes. If the term weren't bandied around so freely now days, I would say racist f*#king ass holes. Yoko contributed and contributes to art in all forms. More than most of you can say.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jan 15, 2018 - 10:31pm PT
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I ain’t racist, homes, I’m just allergic to cats in heat. I’m also a hater of coons shaggin’ the
night away in my back yard. It might be ‘art’ but that kinda art only lacks an ‘f’ to put it in
a different category.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Jan 15, 2018 - 11:14pm PT
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Re Trout Mask Replica:
Captain Beefheart, the only true dadaist in rock, has been victimized repeatedly by public incomprehension and critical authoritarianism.
The tendency has been to chide C. B. and his Band as a potentially acceptable blues band who were misled onto the paths of greedy trendy commercialism.
What the critics failed to see was that this was a band with a vision, that their music, difficult raucous and rough as it is, proceeded from a unique and original consciousness.
This became dramatically apparent with their last album [TMR].
Since their music derived as much from the new free jazz and African chant rhythms as from Delta blues, the songs tended to be rattly and wayward, clattering along on wierdly jabbering high-pitched guitars and sprung rhythms.
But the total concept and its execution was more in the nature of a tribal Pharoh Sander/Archie Shepp fire-exorcism than the ranting noise of the Blue Cheer strain of groups.
Thus it's very gratifying to say that this new album is a total success, a brilliant, stunning enlargement and clarification of CB's art.
Which is not to say that it's in any sense slick, "artistic," or easy. This is one of the few bands whose sound has actually gotten rawer as they've matured, a brilliant and refreshing strategy.
Again the rhythms and melodic textures jump all over the place (in the same way that Cecil Taylor's do), Beefheart singing like a lonesome werewolf screaming and growling in the night.
The songs clatter about: given a superficial listening, they seem boring and repetitious.
It's perhaps the addition of saxophones (all played by the five men in the band) that first suggests what's really happening here and always has been happening in this group's music.
--Rolling Stone review by Lester Bangs, 1969
"It's a bush recording...we're out recording a bush."--CB
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What Missy Ono tries to do, well, you all have seen the train wrecks.
And scaredy cat played the race card, no one else.
"Fast and bulbous, lads. Also a tin teardrop."
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Jan 16, 2018 - 07:49am PT
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Why are we still talking about Yoko.
I wish she was a "mute" point.
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SilverSnurfer
Mountain climber
SLC, UT.
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Jan 16, 2018 - 08:01am PT
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"'Shield for your eyes'" should be played at FULLFUGGINVOLUME!!!"
Absolutely, and even better when heard live at max volume in a good venue. Yasuko is five foot nothing at most and absolutely owns that stage when she performs. The fact that the guitar player is a stone genius doesn't hurt either.
Ha! Beefheart. Memories of listening to the Dr. Demento show at night on an Anchorage, Ak. radio station that I picked up by running a wire out a window and up a tree.
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Bullwinkle
Boulder climber
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Jan 16, 2018 - 08:10am PT
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Ahhhh, the fartists of ST such an original, smell. . .
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Jan 16, 2018 - 09:26am PT
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Begs a thread titled "What is Art"
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Jan 16, 2018 - 02:48pm PT
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Sounds worse than 6 cats in a clothes dryer.
She's still living in the Dakota. How'd you like to be her neighbor?
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Jan 16, 2018 - 04:05pm PT
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Yucko sounds like some one using a stick, hitting a bag of cats as if it was a pinata
what ever art is, I gnow it when I see it
"A Confluence of Curves 'nd Cracks"A Roadside Attraction . . .
Art , hm uh hu
mmm dohnuts
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Jan 16, 2018 - 04:27pm PT
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Gnome...You working the wide..?
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dee ee
Mountain climber
Of THIS World (Planet Earth)
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Jan 16, 2018 - 04:35pm PT
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Embrace the choss!!
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scaredycat
Trad climber
Berkeley,CA
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Jan 29, 2018 - 08:16pm PT
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I was going to get all contrite, but naw, I stand by what I said. Why are we still talking about her? Because she contributed more to most of our lives than ANY OF YOU. Ok, maybe Werner and Tami have to be excepted.
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Ballo
Trad climber
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Jan 29, 2018 - 08:23pm PT
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Art , hm uh hu
Looks like she's about to trust the rubber...
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jan 29, 2018 - 09:11pm PT
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she contributed more to most of our lives than ANY OF YOU.
Uh, she NEVER paid one cent towards my mortgage AND I am unanimous that she
NEVER was a voice coach for Kiri Te Kanawa.
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originalpmac
Mountain climber
Timbers of Fennario
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Apr 12, 2018 - 08:40am PT
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So we have to like Yoko because she is Asian even though her "music" blows and if we don't we are racist? Well that makes zero sense.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Apr 12, 2018 - 09:06am PT
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what you got against Straw Man pmac? quit bullying him
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originalpmac
Mountain climber
Timbers of Fennario
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Apr 12, 2018 - 09:45am PT
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Who is Straw Man?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Oct 14, 2018 - 05:06pm PT
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If poor Yoko ever goes out in public she must feel like Hillary at an NRA convention.
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couchmaster
climber
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Oct 14, 2018 - 08:00pm PT
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Scardycat said, quote: "I gotta say that I think a lot of you are ass holes. If the term weren't bandied around so freely now days, I would say racist f*#king ass holes. Yoko contributed and contributes to art in all forms. More than most of you can say." Lets see, Yoko can't keep rythem on the bongo drums and if you notice it and point it out you are a racist. Uhh, OK then. An easier call is that since you don't know jack sh#t about any of us but you call us ass holes and racist because we don't like music that is not in harmony or in tune, that makes you out to be a simpleton and an ignorant dumb f*#k. Probably a racist trying to cover it up too.
2nd point, quote: "Know-nothings possessed with slight curiosity might look up "fluxus "and learn something about the subject at hand. " Lets see, Yoko can't keep rythem on the bongo drums and if you notice it and point it out you are a know nothing. I'd rather be a racist, but will note that you believe that she's shitting on the product because....fluxus. Sure thing, that's what happens when I try to sing too, can't carry a tune for sh#t. FLUXUS BABY!!!!!!! LOL!
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bit'er ol' guy
climber
the past
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Oct 15, 2018 - 08:16am PT
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.....as if having the motivation and ability to start this thread is a "talent"? right up there with drilling the #@$%^ out of grainyass slabs and naming it after yourself.
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SilverSnurfer
Mountain climber
SLC, UT.
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Oct 15, 2018 - 09:44am PT
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If poor Yoko ever goes out in public she must feel like Hillary at an NRA convention.
Actually, she seems to be out and about quite a bit with no regrets. Between actively making her art and music, curating shows and managing legacy works it looks to me like she's staying busy and getting on pretty well. Not too shabby considering that the woman is 85 years old, an age when the majority of us will be busy feeding the worms or dribbling into our oatmeal.
What an interesting person-I'd sure like to meet her.
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ecdh
climber
the east
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Oct 15, 2018 - 11:56am PT
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I like yoko, not her singing but as a weird cultural icon. She stirs sh#t up. That she still stirs up people in a totally unrelated field decades after her relevancy is cool. I get a bunch of garage musos ain't hand wringing over something messners wife did in the 70s.
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